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View Full Version : Best low cost reseller webhosts?
Nestle 06-01-2003, 04:52 AM Hello,
Which are the best low cost webhosts that offer reseller accounts?
I don't mean only hosts that hang out here, but generally.
Knogle 06-01-2003, 04:57 AM United Hosting: http://www.unitedhosting.co.uk
HTTPme: http://www.httpme.com
HostNexus: http://www.hostnexus.com
GetMeHosted: http://www.getmehosted.com
SpiritHosting: http://www.spirithosting.com/.net (can't remember)
Idologic: http://www.idologic.com/
DarkTides: http://www.darktides.net
PriorityColo: http://www.prioritycolo.com/
Kualo: http://www.kualo.com
Just some of the companies in the monopolistic competition market out there.. :)
Jeremy 06-01-2003, 03:48 PM http://crediblehost.com
rafiki55 06-01-2003, 05:18 PM Post in the request forum and a lot of hosts will post reseller packages not listed on their site. (Taht's what I did)
ttremeth 06-01-2003, 10:49 PM FDCservers.net have the best value reseller I have seen but you need to visit their forum and read the many posts around here. Before I get slammed, check out their forum. OK for personal sites.
websavvy 06-01-2003, 10:58 PM If someone is wanting to know who is good, then posting to the Request section won't help them. They need to know about companies with great reputations. I don't think any company would talk about their own bad reputation in the Request section. They would just post a low-balll package, and look like a great value, then collapse like a poorly-built house of cards when things get tough.
rafiki55 06-01-2003, 11:17 PM well I think that if you're looking for low cost you should try the requests b/c many companies don't list their smaller reseller packages on their site. After you have found a package you're happy with in the requests, then check their reputation on WHT. It was merly a suggestion....
DarktidesNET 06-02-2003, 01:43 AM HTTPME and UnitedHosting seem to be popular... :)
SoftWareRevue 06-02-2003, 01:49 AM We would really need to know your definition of "low cost" to help you.
jolly 06-02-2003, 10:10 AM Try fdcservers.net
Nestle 06-02-2003, 10:46 AM Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
We would really need to know your definition of "low cost" to help you.
Anything less than $20/month.
But i don't demand much. About 200MB Space and 10GB Transfer to start and space to grow when needed. Voxtreme used to have a basic plan like this, but they do not offer it anymore.
nainil 06-02-2003, 10:49 AM I would say verio.com is a good and reliable bet.
Nestle 06-02-2003, 10:56 AM Originally posted by jolly
Try fdcservers.net
Those are CHEAP. Are they any good? Whats their uptime?
bonnmac 06-02-2003, 11:03 AM Search the forums here for fdcservers. That would be a big mistake. They really have a bad rep and are down alot.
blue27 06-02-2003, 11:25 AM Originally posted by nainil
I would say verio.com is a good and reliable bet.
Low Cost?
Their lowest price plan is 14.95 for 250 mb and 7.5 gb if you sign up for 5 years.
Starting as low as 14.95 per month
+ 50.00 set-up fee
Discounts for longer contract lengths
• 1 year contracts $20.95 per month
• 2 year contracts $18.95 per month
• 3 year contracts $16.95 per month
• 5 year contracts $14.95 per month
• All contracts less than a year $24.95 per month
Perfect for small sites or novice users
• 7.5 GB of monthly data transfer
• 250 MB diskspace
• 20 configurable POP/Webmail e-mail accounts
• 20 mail forwards
• 20 autoresponders
UH-Matt 06-02-2003, 11:28 AM Originally posted by Nestle
Anything less than $20/month.
But i don't demand much. About 200MB Space and 10GB Transfer to start and space to grow when needed. Voxtreme used to have a basic plan like this, but they do not offer it anymore.
Try emailing them im sure they will do you a custom quote for those requirements. Most hosts will try and accomodate you seeing as your pricing and requirements are not unrealistic.
plasticquart 06-02-2003, 11:56 AM fdcservers and their reputation notwithstanding...
Please help me understand this: Looking at the DNS info for the sites of these 2 users, it is apparent that you, boonnmac (or someone affiliated with you) posted the following recommending your company:
Originally posted by vdaonline
http://crediblehost.com
Then you post the following bagging on a different company.
Originally posted by bonnmac
Search the forums here for fdcservers. That would be a big mistake. They really have a bad rep and are down alot.
Is it safe to assume that this goes against the spirit of WHT?
UH-Matt 06-02-2003, 11:59 AM Its safe to say they have been busted.
Nestle 06-02-2003, 08:47 PM Originally posted by UH-Matt
Try emailing them im sure they will do you a custom quote for those requirements. Most hosts will try and accomodate you seeing as your pricing and requirements are not unrealistic.
I checked their forums and they don't seem to give the $20 plan anymore.
between this 2, which is the best for resellers:
http://www.prioritycolo.com/
http://www.dathorn.com/
DarktidesNET 06-02-2003, 08:48 PM We don't use their resellers but we use Priority Colo's datacenter, awesome network (rarely problems) and superb support.
Myles knows what he's doing. :)
Nestle 06-03-2003, 08:28 AM Originally posted by DarktidesNET
We don't use their resellers but we use Priority Colo's datacenter, awesome network (rarely problems) and superb support.
Myles knows what he's doing. :)
Thanks!!
Anybody using Priority colo reseller plan? I beleive the server for resellers is not a very good one (celeron or something).
UH-Matt 06-03-2003, 08:35 AM We had someone in the WHT irc room moaning that Priority Colo only had 1 reseller server and it was full. They were given the choice to be "squeezed" onto the server or wait for a new one.
Not a great impression in my opinion.. if a server is full, its full!
bonnmac 06-03-2003, 08:37 AM Originally posted by plasticquart
fdcservers and their reputation notwithstanding...
Please help me understand this: Looking at the DNS info for the sites of these 2 users, it is apparent that you, boonnmac (or someone affiliated with you) posted the following recommending your company:
Then you post the following bagging on a different company.
Is it safe to assume that this goes against the spirit of WHT?
Yes someone who is hosted by me note I said hosted not affiliated did put in a plug for me. Did I ask them to no. Was I aware until you pointed it out no.
Yes I posted the truth about fdcservers. I have first hand expierience with them being down about 30% of the time. And I think that people should be warned.
If telling the truth about a company goes against the spirt I must be guilty.
psalicrup 06-03-2003, 12:01 PM If you want the best, dont go low cost, you will just get what you have paid for.
Jeremy 06-03-2003, 01:25 PM i only said crediblehost.com because the lady bonnmac is really nice and help me out i DONT ADMIN or HAVE ANY THING to do with crediblehost.com the service i get is really good..
thats all...
Nestle 06-03-2003, 04:18 PM Originally posted by psalicrup
If you want the best, dont go low cost, you will just get what you have paid for.
Maybe "low cost" is not the best phrase for what I need.
Some of the most reputable companies in here like VO offer a $35 plan with 1GB space and 20GB Transfer. I don't need that much. I would be more than willing to pay $20 for half that (500MB/10GB) but they do not offer such a plan.
So i need a quality host with great uptime, that will offer smaller plans. Of course if there is a quility host with great uptime that will give me more than that I wouldn't say no. But i am not willing to sacrifice quality just to get a ton of GB that I do not need.
mdrussell 06-03-2003, 06:13 PM Originally posted by UH-Matt
We had someone in the WHT irc room moaning that Priority Colo only had 1 reseller server and it was full. They were given the choice to be "squeezed" onto the server or wait for a new one.
Not a great impression in my opinion.. if a server is full, its full!
Was this recently? Priority Colo have had more than 1 reseller server for quite a while.
porcupine 06-03-2003, 08:54 PM Originally posted by UH-Matt
We had someone in the WHT irc room moaning that Priority Colo only had 1 reseller server and it was full. They were given the choice to be "squeezed" onto the server or wait for a new one.
Not a great impression in my opinion.. if a server is full, its full!
Thats not exactly fair now. I'm aware of which customer this was, and they indicated they wanted their order held off.
We have 3 reseller servers, all of which have experienced unexpected growth recently. Like any host (at least i'd hope), we have profit points we hope to see from each server, and resource points which we hope to remain under with each server. They were given the option to wait a week or two until the next server is built out, or to be put on one of the servers nearing capacity.
Do you really have a number where you say "thats it! exactly 22 reseller accounts, she can't handle another account captain, or she'll blow!!!"? Because if so, let me know, i've yet to find a "magical number" that covers everything. Personally i try to retain at least 40% idle CPU average, < 5k/s of swapfile activity, and a minimum of 25% idle diskspace. Once it hits those levels, IMHO thats when we need to re-evaluate the setup, stop adding accounts, or start removing abusive ones (eg ones that find their way past filesystem quotas, or tmp files that need spring cleaning).
With that being said, yes, the person was given a choice, whats so wrong about that? We have had resellers come on board in the past month, two of them brought over 150+ domains apiece, and we didn't turn them away, which im sure is what most others would have done. And unfortunatly, we can't always keep ahead of the buildouts, because its very hard to get the high end parts often enough up here in Canada, it's taken us 2 weeks to procure the parts for some dual MP systems (very few vendors around here sell DDR ECC Registered memory, and the past 6 orders with US vendors have been declined as they refuse to do business with Canadians). <edit> one note i left out, they were also being given the choice between a Redhat CPanel server and FreeBSD, more food for thought </edit>
Anyhow, rambling again, todays a rambling day, that being said, choice is good, if you want to kick me in the shin for giving you choice, congratulations for kissing away the freedom of such.
Last, but not least, why dont you tell me if this is oversold UH-Matt (the server they'd be "squeezed" onto), as i'd love your two cents to be added to the jar:
8:51pm up 18 days, 1:35, 1 user, load average: 0.52, 0.82, 0.77
210 processes: 208 sleeping, 1 running, 1 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states: 3.7% user, 7.0% system, 0.0% nice, 89.2% idle
Mem: 1025392K av, 958576K used, 66816K free, 0K shrd, 117224K buff
Swap: 1052248K av, 78600K used, 973648K free 559684K cached
trustedurl.com 06-04-2003, 12:35 AM Originally posted by porcupine
#1: And unfortunatly, we can't always keep ahead of the buildouts, because its very hard to get the high end parts often enough up here in Canada, it's taken us 2 weeks to procure the parts for some dual MP systems (very few vendors around here sell DDR ECC Registered memory, and the past 6 orders with US vendors have been declined as they refuse to do business with Canadians).
#2: 8:51pm up 18 days, 1:35, 1 user, load average: 0.52, 0.82, 0.77
210 processes: 208 sleeping, 1 running, 1 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states: 3.7% user, 7.0% system, 0.0% nice, 89.2% idle
Mem: 1025392K av, 958576K used, 66816K free, 0K shrd, 117224K buff
Swap: 1052248K av, 78600K used, 973648K free 559684K cached
#1: Try compudatasystems.ca, they should be able to help you.
#2: If it's a dual proc? nah, seems fine. However for a 1 CPU it's a bit high imho.
porcupine 06-04-2003, 12:41 AM idologic_dh:
1. That page is terrible, no offense, but i'd never shop somewhere that cant even build a webpage up enough to list their inventory properly.
2. That clearly shows how many CPU's are on the system, and how do you figure its a bit high for 1 cpu?! :rolleyes:
TotalChoice 06-04-2003, 01:06 AM #2: 8:51pm up 18 days, 1:35, 1 user, load average: 0.52, 0.82, 0.77
Thats not high load. Those loads are mighty fine if I do say so myself.
UH - MATT - I think thats pretty damn downright decent of Priority Colocation to be honest with the client. Oh, if your opinion is correct about when a server is full its full, then what is that "magic number'. imho you should not openly bash other hosts based on some guy you talked to in IRC chat.
trustedurl.com 06-04-2003, 11:54 AM Originally posted by porcupine
idologic_dh:
1. That page is terrible, no offense, but i'd never shop somewhere that cant even build a webpage up enough to list their inventory properly.
2. That clearly shows how many CPU's are on the system, and how do you figure its a bit high for 1 cpu?! :rolleyes:
1: No offense taken, but you said you had problems getting the required RAM, I know they have it and I figured I'd be nice and give you a Canadian supplier (I don't get anything for referring people). Just trying to help you out there....
2: There's been long discussions about what's high load and what's not. I wasn't out to bash you, so don't take it that badly.
I just compared it to my system, which on average sort of looks like:
11:59:47 up 30 days, 20:49, 5 users, load average: 0.20, 0.25, 0.18
94 processes: 93 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU0 states: 1.0% user 0.1% system 0.0% nice 0.0% iowait 97.0% idle
CPU1 states: 33.0% user 26.0% system 0.0% nice 0.0% iowait 40.0% idle
Mem: 1030332k av, 994108k used, 36224k free, 0k shrd, 406384k buff
746792k actv, 372k in_d, 8812k in_c
Swap: 1052248k av, 43272k used, 1008976k free 432904k cached
Anyways, we all know load average isn't the whole picture.... so, have a :beer:
porcupine 06-04-2003, 01:02 PM idologic_dh, Just a FYI, you'd also note any of those discussions, a load under 1.00 is the system having spare time left over basically between cycles, less then 1 process queued, hence if you're running a box under 1.00, you've got too much idle and should get it around 1.00 usually, or 'break even'. If your box is at 2.00 say, you've got what? a 25ms delay to each process in most circumstances, not much :).
Anyhow i think most will agree, a load of < 1.00 is quite acceptable :), your box up there is quite lightly loaded, and could/should take about 10x that load (average) without issue.
Pipson 06-04-2003, 01:14 PM Here are a few http://www.intensewebhosting.com and http://www.***********/modules.php?name=Resellers i think they're the same
Pipson 06-04-2003, 01:18 PM i ment D i g c o r
trustedurl.com 06-04-2003, 01:43 PM Originally posted by porcupine
Anyhow i think most will agree, a load of < 1.00 is quite acceptable :), your box up there is quite lightly loaded, and could/should take about 10x that load (average) without issue.
Agreed :) But I prefer to keep it a little less as it's still an average... just my own choice...
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