Trying to figure out what people think these days of the DV2 and NAC networks. Which provider had the better uptime, service and performance for you? :)

I guess the only folks that comment and vote in this poll, would be suppliers who have servers in both datacenters.

Or have previously used the services of one or both.

I can't see how this poll can be unbiased or give a correct indication? Anyone can tick off his current DC even if he has never used the other one...

The sheer number of DN and NAC users, if nothing else, is bound to surpass the DV2 users at the end.

of course NAC would get the vote :)

NAC NAC NAC NAC NAC :D

Originally posted by tandem
I can't see how this poll can be unbiased or give a correct indication? Anyone can tick off his current DC even if he has never used the other one...
Yep, couldn't agree more. Marc just has a bee in his bonet over this one. :D

Originally posted by inteltechs
of course NAC would get the vote :)

I'm not so sure they would. Just because they have more servers for the moment doesn't mean they are necessarily better. The network is not over subscribed here, it runs very smooth on the whole and alot of customers are very happy.

Originally posted by MCHost-Marc
Trying to figure out what people think these days of the DV2 and NAC networks.

For what purpose are you trying to figure this out? You've already clearly stated in other threads that you prefer DV2...

Originally posted by JP.
For what purpose are you trying to figure this out? You've already clearly stated in other threads that you prefer DV2...
Marc's just annoyed that both his previous threads have been locked. :cartman:

MCHost-Marc

You posted the following in the locked thread:

"But back to the topic, DV2 has been excellent for us in tha past years, the network has become more excellent every day."

So why are you asking this question regarding these 2 networks when you obviously like DV2??

I think he's floating with the idea of using both or start using another if he finds it applicable to his benefit.. however that's just a theory.

Originally posted by Matrix

So why are you asking this question regarding these 2 networks when you obviously like DV2??

Marc doesn't have my physcic (?sp) ability. He cannot be sure what everyone else thinks..... :rolleyes:

Originally posted by tazzy
Marc doesn't have my physcic (?sp) ability. He cannot be sure what everyone else thinks..... :rolleyes:

Surprised you can read, but obviously can't comprehend. Very conveinant that he states that DV2 has been great to him and now he asks about NAC which just got bashed for the fire problem. I guess the search feature on here doesn't work huh. Hopefully marc doesn't have your pompous attitude either :D

I dont think there is anything wrong with Marc motive or the thread.

When DV2 had its share of issues, threads like these popped up time to time.


-Shazad

Originally posted by Matrix
Surprised you can read, but obviously can't comprehend.

Very clever insult there. Did you learn that in Playschool? :rolleyes:

Originally posted by [eS]s.h.a.z.y
I dont think there is anything wrong with Marc motive or the thread.
Hmmmm, let me see. 1 day after the fire at NAC, Marc digs up a 5mth old thread and claims that DV2 are better than NAC. That thread is locked. His post deleted. He then posts another thread asking why his last post was deleted and thread locked. That threads ends up being locked too. Now he opens this poll. Motives?? I'm sure his motives are pure. :D
When DV2 had its share of issues, threads like these popped up time to time.
What, polls like this, or just general "DV2 down" threads?

BTW, do you still use DV2 as a supplier?

Originally posted by tazzy
Very clever insult there. Did you learn that in Playschool? :rolleyes: If ya'll are gonna just trade insults, we may as well close this thread too.

Or, perhaps you could meet off of school property.

Each is to his own.
DV2 has had issues, NAC has had issues.
NAC is bigger than DV2.
NAC was having issues, DV2 isn't right now.

We all know what WHT is like and the crap is posted here by members who certainly are not equal to their post count or even worth their post count. However, I will not mention names as the people who need to know will know who I am talking about. :)

Can we stop this immature and cheap pot taking at me and other people who do not ask or deserve or do anything what so ever to deserve it? Otherwise certain people may find they will bite off far more than they can chew. :D

Have a nice day.

Originally posted by Aussie Bob

Hmmmm, let me see. 1 day after the fire at NAC, Marc digs up a 5mth old thread and claims that DV2 are better than NAC. That thread is locked. His post deleted. He then post another thread asking why his last post was deleted and thread locked. That threads ends up being locked too. Now he opens this poll. Motives?? I'm sure his motives are pure. :D
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When Dv2 had its issuesand an identical thread popped up, "NAC v.s. DV2" no-one complained then maybe because they were using NAC...


What, polls like this, or just general "DV2 down" threads?
The thread you locked.


BTW, do you still use DV2 as a supplier?

Yeah just like you use NAC, whats your point?


-Shazad

Originally posted by [eS]s.h.a.z.y
. . . . .The thread you locked. . . . He hacked into a mod account? :eek:

Originally posted by [eS]s.h.a.z.y
When Dv2 had its issuesand an identical thread popped up, "NAC v.s. DV2" no-one complained then maybe because they were using NAC...
Oh, so this is some kind of mod conspiracy then? Hold it, Rochen uses NAC - there's your conspiracy. :D
The thread you locked.
I cannot lock threads. I am not a mod.
Yeah just like you use NAC, whats your point?
Just wondering where you source your supply from now. :)

Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
He hacked into a mod account? :eek:
Busted. I have "Secret Super Admin" status. :blush: :D

just kidding folks

Originally posted by [eS]s.h.a.z.y
<snip>
The thread you locked.
<snip>

I was referring to the mods...


-Shazad

Originally posted by Aussie Bob
Busted. I have "Secret Super Admin" status. :blush: :D

just kidding folks

Who knows, you've heard the old aussie stories ;)

lol, just kidding

This is a funny thread..

People are bashing Marc for posting this thread. And? I don't think they reached something.

IMO this is a nice topic to discuss. After the 12 hours of fire problems inside the NAC, will people still choose NAC? Or go for DV2?

When Marc posted this thread, it looked like NAC is winning, check the stats now :D 17 for DV2 against 16 for NAC :D

For the people that aren't interested, there are enough threads to reply to. Choose the one you like. This will save the mods here some work ;)

Mmm, let's be certain about one thing.. they -all- shall 'suck' at some point. It's inevitable.. just like Apocalypse and all of that mediocre garbage. . .

Debating that is like debating when a kid'll poo his/her pants.. it'll happen... ya just don't know when. . .

DV2 or NAC?

HM ... neither :)

Originally posted by FHDave
DV2 or NAC?

HM ... neither :)

But if you had to choice between the two? Saying InterNAP never existed.

Please don't say neither. ;) :emlaugh:

Even if Internap does not exist, I will hate the day when I could only choose between the two :)

Just kidding ... I have never had any experience in DV2, so I can not and should not really contribute anything to this poll ...

/me goes back to the corner

Why compare DV2 to NAC? What's Marc's *real* purpose in all of this behind the scenes?

Is he doing this because most of his competition (reseller hosts) are based at NAC and this is a great opportunity for him to knock them down indirectly by taking advantage of NAC's recent problems?

Otherwise, why try and dig up an ancient thread (over 4 months old) from deep down the WHT archives and resurrect it?

Originally posted by tandem
Why compare DV2 to NAC? What's Marc's *real* purpose in all of this behind the scenes?


Who knows.


Is he doing this because most of his competition (reseller hosts) are based at NAC and this is a great opportunity for him to knock them down indirectly by taking advantage of NAC's recent problems?


Now now Tandem, it's hardly going to improve his business. Every one knows their...... I shall leave it at that and let the mind wonder on what I think of MCHost. ;)


Otherwise, why try and dig up an ancient thread (over 4 months old) from deep down the WHT archives and resurrect it? [/B]

Who knows. I'm sure you'd like to find out but we both know you have no chance of getting Marc to confirm anything what so ever. ;)

Originally posted by FHDave
[B]Even if Internap does not exist, I will hate the day when I could only choose between the two :)


I was thinking you were going to say something else....


Just kidding ... I have never had any experience in DV2, so I can not and should not really contribute anything to this poll ...

/me goes back to the corner ]

Well from my experience both have had their ups and downs. I have only talked to Jeff before (he is a nice bloke and the network is smoking). I haven't spoken to anyone from NAC directly. That arsey tech/whatever from NAC kind of put my off talking to NAC regarding anything what-so-ever. :blush:

Originally posted by tazzy
Who knows. I'm sure you'd like to find out but we both know you have no chance of getting Marc to confirm anything what so ever. ;) OK Marc... time for you to get up and show you are serious about all this. Both DV2 and NAC are fine DCs and have their own strengths and weaknesses... we all know that (they are almost head to head in the results)...

Tell us exactly what your *real* purpose for doing this poll is. Don't BS us with any of your usual stuff. Just give it to us straight from the horse's mouth.

Just for once... BE HONEST WITH US!

loL@begging...

Marc, you're sorta like a serial killer, creating this for attention

Its a poll, there is no secret conspiracy behind it :D

Originally posted by MCHost-Marc
Its a poll, there is no secret conspiracy behind it :D

I also thought you just wanted to see what everyone liked. I personally voted for dv2. :) Although there is always room for improvement and dv2 is certain to improve in the coming months even more. ;)

Originally posted by MCHost-Marc

Its a poll, there is no secret conspiracy behind it :D BS
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You LOST THE INTEGRITY, ETHICS, MATURITY and COMMUNITY-SENSE tests.

Are people still voting for an obscure cause?

This poll is 100% biased (just read Marc's initial post) and should be exterminated. :eek:

What is the big deal here? These host vs. host posts come up all the time.

DV2 has had problems in the past and I'm sure host vs. dv2 posts have come up.

I think it's time to stop bashing and stay on track. Those of you who have used both DV2 and nac share your opinions.

Matthew, regardless... I like both DV2 and NAC on their own merits. But... bias is bias.

Someone who has all or most of his servers located in one of the parties to the poll (out of 2) and no servers with the other (currently) is acting with bias (either direction)... that simple. :eek:

Ok, so his vote may be bias towards dv2, but he started out by saying:

> Trying to figure out what people think these days of the DV2 and NAC networks. Which provider had the better uptime, service and performance for you?

As far as I can see he hasn't bashed or hasn't made any clear bias in that post towards a host.

It seems simple to me - a poll asking for people's views. Perhaps he is thinking of using NAC and want's users opinions. Only he knows. This is WHT after all ;)

this is getting out of hand, its time the little boys/girls learned how to grow up, its a post like hundereds of other posts that have been on this forum, why is everyone making such a big fuss over nothing, like little kids arguing over who sucks the lolly pop next.

Please keep this on topic, or expect this to be locked like others in the past.

Originally posted by [eS]s.h.a.z.y
...why is everyone making such a big fuss over nothing...
Read part 1 (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=149253) first... :)

Originally posted by tandem
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You LOST THE INTEGRITY, ETHICS, MATURITY and COMMUNITY-SENSE tests.

Are people still voting for an obscure cause?

This poll is 100% biased (just read Marc's initial post) and should be exterminated. :eek:

Hmm, looks like you need to chill, how about I buy a big lolly pop :stickout:

Originally posted by Rochen
Read part 1 (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=149253) first... :)

Yeah, that discussion was unfortunately lockd because free opinions cannot be stated/discussed here anymore. So now we have a completely neutral poll, everyone is free to decide and have their own opinion, without even needing to type anything :)

Originally posted by BurtonHost
Perhaps he is thinking of using NAC and want's users opinions. Only he knows. This is WHT after all ;) So are you saying that Marc would move all of his current servers from DV2 to NAC in the next fortnight... just because the poll gave a thumping result for NAC (and why should he if he's happy with DV2)?

Have you seen his remarks about NAC before this poll?

Are you daydreaming? :D

Matthew, we know your servers are with DV2 and you resell for them (which is fine as they're great)... but a bit of unbiased thinking should help us all... :eek:

Originally posted by Rochen
Read part 1 (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=149253) first... :)

LOL, looks like your trying to get a script together to make a film out of this, and want everyone to read part 1 first (make comments if its good), then this one, and then the next parts that are gonna come sometime in the future :D

Originally posted by MCHost-Marc
Yeah, that discussion was unfortunately lockd because free opinions cannot be stated/discussed here anymore.
No Marc, that discussion was locked because the original point of the thread had been sufficed and it was starting to go way off-topic.

Originally posted by [eS]s.h.a.z.y
LOL, looks like your trying to get a script together to make a film out of this, and want everyone to read part 1 first (make comments if its good), then this one, and then the next parts that are gonna come sometime in the future :D
Nope, it's just people are asking why Marc has started this thread. I think the anwser is in that thread... :)

Originally posted by Rochen
No Marc, that discussion was locked because the original point of the thread had been sufficed and it was starting to go way off-topic.

Lets keep this on topic then, please. I'm not the one that brought up the other thread again ;) Lets hear some opinions for both DV2 and NAC.

Originally posted by [eS]s.h.a.z.y
Hmm, looks like you need to chill, how about I buy a big lolly pop :stickout: What I've just said to Matthew stands for you too... as you are in the same position as him... your resell for DV2 (again, which is fine as they're great).

However... bias is bias. This poll would have been outright legit if the question was posed by someone who is thinking of getting a server soon (perhaps even tomorrow) OR if Marc had currently servers in BOTH DCs!

Originally posted by tandem
What I've just said to Matthew stands for you too... as you are in the same position as him... your resell for DV2 (again, which is fine as they're great).



Looks like you need a few more lolly pops, as your mind is surely not upto the task... your starting to talk garbage.


-Shazad

This entire thread is stupid.

Its like comparing General Motors to Adnans Car Corporation.

Geeze, who makes a better SUV GM or Adnans Car Co.

Since GM has many more customers than Adnans Car Co. how can the poll be accurate in any sense of the word?

It can not be as all the nac customers are gonna click on the nac vote. Just stupid!

If there are 10,000 GM customers and 1,000 Adnan Car Company customers and 10% of them participate in this poll the results would be.

GM is awesome - 1,000 customers say so
Adnans Car Company is awesome - 100 customers say so.

Now when people look at this thread and dont know jack about the companies in question, what do they gain from the poll?

Nothing.

This poll is just pointless.

Shazad, are you saying that you and Matthew have some servers at NAC right now and so you are in a position to compare their operations without any subjective bias? I don't think so! :eek:

Originally posted by tandem
Shazad, are you saying that you and Matthew have some servers at NAC right now and so you are in a position to compare their operations without any subjective bias?

I dont know about Matt, but we have a server at nac which we use for offsite monitoring and backup.

As for reselling, you are so full of yourself thinking you know everything. If colo'ing in another facility is called "reselling" then there is something wrong with you..

-Shazad

Originally posted by [eS]s.h.a.z.y
As for reselling, you are so full of yourself thinking you know everything. If colo'ing in another facility is called "reselling" then there is something wrong with you..

-Shazad

Man Shazad, you must be a super d' duper reseller. :D

So wait, if i rent servers from shazad then that makes me a reseller-reseller?

Sorry could not resist

:D :stickout: :cartman: :)

Originally posted by TotalChoice
So wait, if i rent servers from shazad then that makes me a reseller-reseller?

Sorry could not resist

:D :stickout: :cartman: :)

:gthumb: :banana:

Nope, wrong. By resell hosting I meant Marc's reseller hosting business vs. some others involved in these threads in a similar line of business... for example, Aussie Bob and Samuel who have their servers at NAC (I think!).

I believe Marc is targeting his direct competition in an indirect way by trying hard to knock down NAC.

I think both DV2 and NAC are great data centers (except the occasional hiccup). No-one would go wrong choosing either one of them...

Originally posted by MCHost-Marc
Its a poll, there is no secret conspiracy behind it :D
hehe. Good one Marc. :D

And seems Timmy's no longer around - MODS CLOSE THIS THREAD!! ;)

Originally posted by Aussie Bob
hehe. Good one Marc. :D

And seems Timmy's no longer around - MODS CLOSE THIS THREAD!! ;)

Yes Bob, I agree..

Kill it Mods!

Originally posted by tandem
I believe Marc is targeting his direct competition in an indirect way by trying hard to knock down NAC.
Somehow I think we'll survive such an onslaught. :D

such confidence.... lol

Yep...bias is bias; can't change that.

Marc's grand scheme should be stopped in all fairness to both DCs.

Long live DV2 and NAC... :D

Originally posted by tandem
I believe Marc is targeting his direct competition in an indirect way by trying hard to knock down NAC.

If competition suffers from a thread that has only been viewed 815 times (as of right now) and has said nothing negative against them, it was no competition in the first place. Why is everyone going so defensive? I have not said anything negative against DV2 or NAC in this thread, just trying to find out which one is preferred.

I'm not biased but out of the two.
Right at this current point of time.
DV2 would be my preferance.

However, things can change. :)

Originally posted by MCHost-Marc
I have not said anything negative against DV2 or NAC in this thread, just trying to find out which one is preferred. :D Very true... you haven't said anything negative against NAC in this thread...!

Now let's have a look at some of your opinions in your previous thread (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=149253) (wich was opened by you less than 24 hours ago):it is clear that DV2 is currently the better data center to choose, after NAC had a 10+ hours outage recently.DV2 has been excellent for us in the past years, the network has become more excellent every day. From personal experience, while NAC may have less number of outages than other networks, it is usually for extended and long periods of time. Customers and providers can live with several short outages, it happens to everyone, everywhere, but long outages are a real killer. I'll stay with my opinion, DV2 is superior than NAC right now.
:eek: :eek2: :eek3:

Why do you keep digging up locked threads?

Originally posted by MCHost-Marc
Why do you keep digging up locked threads?
Why do people dig up old threads (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=104525)? :D

Ok, I think we've all had our fun with this thread. :cartman:

Marc, did it hurt? :)

Why do you keep on bullshi*ting? :eek:

[tandem goes away and leaves the field... as he's had enough with this thread]

Originally posted by Aussie Bob
Why do people dig up old threads (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=104525)? :D

Ok, I think we've all had our fun with this thread. :cartman:

True, some have more rights than others (for whatever reason). Thanks for helping prove my point, that when i dig up an old thread, it gets locked within seconds, but many others can keep on chewing on issues from locked threads for as long as they want, even moderators can dig up locked threads, go off topic (see page 3), etc.

But lets get back to the topic, please.

Originally posted by MCHost-Marc
But lets get back to the topic, please.

Glad to. But first, do you mean DV2 vs. The Real NAC or DV2 vs. NAC/DCJN?

[tandem comes back for a second]

Marc, now I am fully convinced... that you have (or can see) no boundaries on bullshi*ting people. 5 stars for you on that one buddy....!

[/tandem goes away]

Originally posted by tandem
. . . . .[tandem goes away] Yes. Please do.

Let's stick to the poll (whatever it is) now, folks.

Originally posted by alchiba
Glad to. But first, do you mean DV2 vs. The Real NAC or DV2 vs. NAC/DCJN?

I would hazard a guess that it would be just NAC. Otherwise one would hope he would have said DCJN/NAC. ;)

Originally posted by tazzy
I would hazard a guess that it would be just NAC. Otherwise one would hope he would have said DCJN/NAC. ;)

we are not dcjn - far from it.

we have worked very hard on our quality and our infrastructure for the last 6 months and I believe we are on par with most. we believe our infrasturcture is top notch. this poll certainly shows at least that the users on this board so far - 24-24 think that NAC and DV2 are both very quality companies.

Sure NAC has had a string of issues lately - we had ours a while back. some of it may be too much growth - among other factors.

NAC is a very good company and we all scuff our knees from time to time.

I am sure they will recover and get things smooth again eventually. based on the last polls that were put up - we were having issues and nac was not and everyone said nac based on that - well the time is different this time - so maybe everyone realizes the 2 companies are about on par now.

I would venture to compare value for service at this point since the popular opinion seems to average the 2 companies at about the same - once they get things working well again. dont compare us on dcjn - I can go set up a sub par company to the current one for "value" if that is what we want to compare to - however we dont see a need for that.

Very well said, sailor. I think that closing this poll at 24 each is somehow fitting. :)

I cant give a long speech like sailor, but i must say that dv2 has my vote all the way. I visit them about 3 times a month and every time i go, i am welcomed by their tech support staff who is always working hard. I really cant complain or ask for better service because dv2 has been the best for us.

Well I tried to give one an edge, but someone countered me. Although having to choose was very difficult, they both have their good and bad points.

Wasn't this thread about voting? How about a WHT Survivor game where we can vote off the "bad" members...figurativley of course....wouldn't want to hurt anyones feelings.

Originally posted by sailor
we are not dcjn - far from it.

I never said you were. DCJN is DCJN. ;)

Originally posted by tazzy
I never said you were. DCJN is DCJN. ;) Then; what is NAC?

Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
Then; what is NAC?

* Gathers breath *

NAC is NAC.
DCJN is DCJN.
DV2 is DV2.
InterNAP is InterNAP.
CPanel is CPanel.
Off-topic is this post.....

And!!!!





What was this thread about again?





I wonder who does posts like this. :homer:

This may be a good time to run...... ;)

I think sailor means that DV2's bandwidth comes from premium tier-1 providers and as such should only be compared with premium NAC bandwidth (and not DCJN) in terms of value.

Originally posted by MCHost-Marc
Yeah, that discussion was unfortunately lockd because free opinions cannot be stated/discussed here anymore.
I don't think I've ever laughed so hard in ages... How you said that with a straight face (when your own customer forum is locked down tighter than a snare drum with all the criticism mysteriously deleted) is hilarious... I was amazed to discover I apparently never wrote anything on your forums from around January of 2002 which is ironic because that's when I started criticising your service... Weird that :eek: (I was there and active until around April of 2002 so someone deleted them!)

As for this thread... It is blindingly obvious that this was nothing less than a bare faced attempt to p*ss off the mods by opening another thread in the face of your reviving the dead thread being locked out...

Great work... just keep on digging... :rolleyes:

Umm, how is this related to DV2 or NAC? :rolleyes:

You were the one that wanted open conversation.

I laughed when you typed that earlier marc, YOU bitching about there not being enough open conversation.

Hilarious...

This poll, the previously closed thread and Marc's deleted post and subsequent closed thread, is Marc's little way of getting some Payback, as to when DV2 were having massive issues. That's the motive folks. Nothing with Marc is what it seems.

Originally posted by tazzy
Very clever insult there. Did you learn that in Playschool? :rolleyes:

No, I learned it from the School of Tazzy :D

Originally posted by tazzy
Each is to his own.
DV2 has had issues, NAC has had issues.
NAC is bigger than DV2.
NAC was having issues, DV2 isn't right now.

We all know what WHT is like and the crap is posted here by members who certainly are not equal to their post count or even worth their post count. However, I will not mention names as the people who need to know will know who I am talking about. :)

Can we stop this immature and cheap pot taking at me and other people who do not ask or deserve or do anything what so ever to deserve it? Otherwise certain people may find they will bite off far more than they can chew. :D

Have a nice day.

:bawling:

Originally posted by Aussie Bob
This poll, the previously closed thread and Marc's deleted post and subsequent closed thread, is Marc's little way of getting some Payback, as to when DV2 were having massive issues. That's the motive folks. Nothing with Marc is what it seems.

Why do your replies always get personal? This thread is about DV2 and NAC, about voicing opinions. Why can't we stay on-topic for once, without personal flames and insults (yes, i take Nothing with Marc is what it seems. as an insult).

Originally posted by Aussie Bob
This poll, the previously closed thread and Marc's deleted post and subsequent closed thread, is Marc's little way of getting some Payback, as to when DV2 were having massive issues. That's the motive folks. Nothing with Marc is what it seems.

Why do your replies always get personal? This thread is about DV2 and NAC, about voicing opinions. Why can't we stay on-topic for once, without personal flames and insults (yes, i take Nothing with Marc is what it seems. as an insult).

Originally posted by MCHost-Marc
Why do your replies always get personal? This thread is about DV2 and NAC, about voicing opinions.
If this was a poll by anyone else, I would say fine. But in the current context of 2 closed threads, those who know what you're like, understand your true motives here. You can drop the innocent act.
Why can't we stay on-topic for once, without personal flames and insults (yes, i take Nothing with Marc is what it seems. as an insult).
Good. You deserve it.

Marc, can I ask you why you decided to do a DV2 vs. NAC poll and not, for example, DV2 vs. ThePlanet or RackShack etc...?

Q1. In other words, why did you want to pitch NAC against DV2... over any other of dozens of providers?

Q2. And... if NAC gets more of the votes (which it seems heading in that direction) will you be moving any of your boxes into NAC as a result? Yes or No?

Back to the topic... Flame wars have never been fun, or even intereresting.
Since I've used DV2 and NAC I think I'm in a good position to judge them both.
DV2 really was not reliable about 6months ago. They were down quite a lot. Since moving to NAC I've had almost no problems. Just a few, but nothing major. Nothing to the extend that I had with DV2.

Originally posted by Aussie Bob
This poll, the previously closed thread and Marc's deleted post and subsequent closed thread, is Marc's little way of getting some Payback, as to when DV2 were having massive issues. That's the motive folks. Nothing with Marc is what it seems. I fully agree with you on that one... This sums it up nicely. :)

Originally posted by tandem
Marc, can I ask you why you decided to do a DV2 vs. NAC poll and not, for example, DV2 vs. ThePlanet or RackShack etc...?


The original discussion i joined was about NAC and DV2 and that's what this poll is about, too.

Originally posted by Aussie Bob

If this was a poll by anyone else, I would say fine.

Why do you have something personal against me? Obviously you do, send me an email at marc@mchost.com and tell me, keep it out of this thread, please and drop your hostile attitude.

Originally posted by MCHost-Marc
Why do you have something personal against me? Obviously you do, send me an email at marc@mchost.com and tell me, keep it out of this thread, please and drop your hostile attitude.
Marc, you can only fool some of the people some of the time. Your poll here, in the context of your 2 closed threads, is bogus and just more games.

I'm all done here. I've said my bit. Expressed my opinion. Mods feel free to delete whatever I wrote that I shouldn't have.

Okay, we can continue the thread in peace then :)

Originally posted by RochenMartin
Back to the topic... Flame wars have never been fun, or even intereresting.
Since I've used DV2 and NAC I think I'm in a good position to judge them both.
DV2 really was not reliable about 6months ago. They were down quite a lot. Since moving to NAC I've had almost no problems. Just a few, but nothing major. Nothing to the extend that I had with DV2.

DV2 changed a lot from when there were issues 6 months ago.

Originally posted by MCHost-Marc
DV2 changed a lot from when there were issues 6 months ago.

Really? That's good.
What's the uptime recently been like? Any DoS attacks in the past month? :)

Their uptime is great and no DoS attacks lately.

Originally posted by RochenMartin
Really? That's good.
What's the uptime recently been like? Any DoS attacks in the past month? :)

Alot better than what its been on our NAC box lately, lets put it that way ...
We've not had network downtime on our main server for over 6 months apart from maintenance when it was moved onto a new layer3 switch...

Anyway, since when have people been allowed to have multiple accounts?

-Shazad

Originally posted by RochenMartin
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Any DoS attacks in the past month? :)
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Infact there has been DDOS attack recently, but the network team are on top of there job and it only affected two access level switches with minor packet loss for short period of time, unlike some networks around here where it knocks it completely inaccessible.


-Shazad

Originally posted by [eS]s.h.a.z.y
Anyway, since when have people been allowed to have multiple accounts?
Different people ;)

Originally posted by MCHost-Marc
The original discussion i joined was about NAC and DV2 and that's what this poll is about, too.Ah, you mean the original discussion which was 4 months old and you wanted to resurrect? I see... :eek:

If anyone has access to the Cpanel forum, you may want to have a look at this (http://forums.cpanel.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9617) to get another insight into Marc's little games... It makes great reading. Just get those pop-corns ready! :D

Originally posted by Rochen
Different people ;)

Did you know pigs can fly?

-Shazad

Originally posted by [eS]s.h.a.z.y
Did you know pigs can fly?
Nope... ;)

Anyway, SWR changed his username to prevent any further confusion.

Now, back to the topic... :)

So Chris owner of Rochen and Martin another Rochen staff member or owner are the same person?

Seems unlikely to me Shazad.

Originally posted by Bloory
So Chris owner of Rochen and Martin another Rochen staff member or owner are the same person?

Seems unlikely to me Shazad.

Some people cant even take a joke....
I knew WHT was low on humour but not that low ;)

Im out, have a great weekend everyone.
-Shazad

Originally posted by Bloory
So Chris owner of Rochen and Martin another Rochen staff member or owner are the same person?

Seems unlikely to me Shazad.

I agree. Heaven forbit that 2 staff from one company should dare to join WHT. ;)
Going on the facts that Rochen is a well respected web hosting provider and that they have different names. It is safe to assume that they are two different people. Although........... :cartman:

We're two very different people.

I'm glad to hear DV2 is better than it used to be :). But I'm very happy with NAC.

thanks for all the comments and taking time to take a poll. while I realize that this is VERY unscientific, I am quite pleased with the results. what it tells me is that we have significantly imporoved our standing over the last 6 months while adding a manageable amount of growth. The fact that NAC si so much larger than us (therefore a larger user base on here to respond to thepoll) and that the poll is very close - my personal conclusion is that we have attained a level that can be reasonably extrapolated to be on par at least with NAC. I respect them and therefore am pleased to say the least. Now to the next round of imporvements to take the next step. :) thanks for your continued suport.

Originally posted by sailor
Now to the next round of improvements to take the next step. :) What are they? Tell us now... tell us now. ;)

Disolution of certain canadian partnerships?

don't go with dv2. They really don't take care of their clients. What they want is money, money, and money.

Originally posted by ebird
Don't go with dv2. They really don't take care of their clients. What they want is money, money, and money. Can you explain this a bit more and back up your claims?

Originally posted by ebird
don't go with dv2. They really don't take care of their clients. What they want is money, money, and money.

too bad you posted something like this - well since you did - here is the story behind it - ebird has been a long time customer. about a week and a half ago - his box started DoSing someone for the third time in the 6 weeks. we gave him inform ation the last 2 times and it stopped. well - this time we emailed him and got no reply - after 24 hours of this going on - I started to get some complaints on packet loss since his badwidth had creeped up to about 80 meg outbound sustained. well - I made the decision to shut his server down since I got no reply - it was a form of a smurf attack with very small packets so it was running high cpu on routers and besides that DoSng someone is just not nice. well - after 2 days of the server being down - he emailed us finally and said what is going on . we explained and he said - acn you fix it - we said - sure we can look at it and go through it for you for a servcie fee.

I guess he doesnt like this . any way - I am sure your next provider will let your server go on dosng and not charge you anything for fixing it or thebandwidht you use. Especially since the Dos'ng seemed to be an ongoing thing even after we informed him of it. Any takers on this one????

good luck. :)

:rolleyes:

Being a DV2 customer I am glad that you shut down a server that could have possibly been affecting the performance of my server.

I also think it quite fair that you would charge to correct a problem that the system admin does not know how to correct.

Both datacenters are good ... I have server in both NAC and DV2 .. and I'm happy with both.

If I have to choose between the two .. I'll pick DV2, because I feel comfortable knowing that they know you by name when you call .. that's a big plus. :)


Cheers,

drhonk,

Maybe they know you by name because they dont have even 1/4 of the customers nac have?

Or it could be that you call to often about issues at DV2 then NAC and the tech knows you by name :) eheheh

Regards
Phillip

Originally posted by Choppy
drhonk,

Maybe they know you by name because they dont have even 1/4 of the customers nac have?

Or it could be that you call to often about issues at DV2 then NAC and the tech knows you by name :) eheheh

Regards
Phillip

Bingo

sailor,

I would have DrOp Kicked the Server out of the facility for the D O Sing after the first warning of course.

Regards
Phillip

I voted DV2 and have many servers there. I haven't had many problems. I watched people (won't name names or dates) from NAC and othet data centers kind of half assed bashing DV2 when DV2 had a couple consecutive problems. But it seems what goes around comes around so before bashing other data centers when yours is running well maybe think twice. :-) Next week it will be yours going down :-)

Downtime at DV2 is rare. Support request are generally answered in minutes. You get APC strip access for rebooting which is awesome.

I don't think I've come across a funnier thread. I've never seen such a bunch of whiney little girls in a thread in my life. Who gives a crap what Marc's intentions were, whether pure or not it's still a valid question. You guys are acting like the guy is insulting your sister here, it's just a question of providers hehe.

Personally, I've used both, and I would say they were both equal in terms of network uptime. I used DV2 a while back and never had a problem with downtime, but wasn't a customer during their network problems. I've also used DJCN which is a better price comparison with DV2 then premium NAC bandwidth, and honestly I was happier with DV2's support, however, uptime was about the same (almost perfect in both cases). So it's really about what is more appealing, now I'm with The Planet and perfectly happy there :).

We have servers at DV2 and NAC and to be honest we like both just as much as the other. :)

Originally posted by comphosting
I don't think I've come across a funnier thread. I've never seen such a bunch of whiney little girls in a thread in my life. Who gives a crap what Marc's intentions were, whether pure or not it's still a valid question. You guys are acting like the guy is insulting your sister here, it's just a question of providers hehe.


Exactly. Who cares what his intentions were?


He's the one who wanted opinions, he's not the one giving them! His bias doesn't effect the poll!

Has anyone seen a human soul in the DV2 cameras for the past 5 or 6 hours? I haven't yet... the whole place looks deserted. :D

http://camera.dv2.net/index4.html

Originally posted by MCHost-Marc
Trying to figure out what people think these days of the DV2 and NAC networks. Which provider had the better uptime, service and performance for you? :)

NAC

Originally posted by tandem
Has anyone seen a human soul in the DV2 cameras for the past 5 or 6 hours? I haven't yet... the whole place looks deserted. :D

http://camera.dv2.net/index4.html

You wont see them on the DC floor unless they're doing something with the servers i.e. reboot, console etc.. They haven't got any cams where they hang out in there ;)

Originally posted by BurtonHost
They haven't got any cams where they hang out in there ;)
Yep, that explains it... There are probably no cameras in the areas they hang around. :D ;)