serverhost.com - Grand Reopening Sale

Pentium 3 750 MHz
256 MB PC133 SDRAM
40GB 5400 RPM EIDE HD
10/100 Network Card
100GB of Fully Burstable Data Transfer
24x7 Onsite Technicians Available
24x7 Monitoring
Redhat 7.1 or FreeBSD 4.2
16 IP Addresses

$129 per month
$129 setup fee

Add Cpanel/Webhost Manager (with a free upgrade to NOCSoft) for $70 per month.
Add Smart Hosting Controller (including automated billing - www.smarthostingtools.com) for $25 per month.

Minimum one month required. Additional data transfer billed using monthly average at $2.00 per GB in 10GB increments. Additional IP addresses available at no charge, following ARIN's regulations (RFC 2050). Price valid for new customers only. Limit one per customer. Price is guaranteed to remain the same for as long as the customer chooses to keep the server. This is a limited time promotion. Legal adult content is permitted. Illegal or offensive content, UCE (spam), and IRCD are not permitted. Onsite technician services available at $150 per hour, with a one hour minimum. Reboots are provided at no charge as long as we do not deem them to be excessive.

(Sorry about that mess... I tried to anticipate the common questions.)

Optional one-time upgrade fees:

- upgrade to 512MB RAM for $49
- upgrade to 1000 MHz for $99
- upgrade to 80 GB EIDE for $129
- upgrade to 36 GB SCSI for $399
- install Plesk for $499

All pricing information contained in this offer applies only to this offer, and are only available at the time of signup at the advertised rates.

Sales contact methods: ICQ: 3000984 or sales@serverhost.com

Want to sign up now? We're not taking orders just yet. Expect the order form to come online with the serverhost.com redesign some time this week. Just wanted to give the webhostingtalk.com crew a heads up on this excellent deal. :)

Best Regards,

waoh.. nice!

Reply from 216.143.19.37: bytes=32 time=762ms TTL=239
Reply from 216.143.19.37: bytes=32 time=721ms TTL=239
Reply from 216.143.19.37: bytes=32 time=681ms TTL=239
Reply from 216.143.19.37: bytes=32 time=761ms TTL=239

Ping statistics for 216.143.19.37:
Packets: Sent = 33, Received = 31, Lost = 2 (6% loss)
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 260ms, Maximum = 952ms, Average = 576ms
Control-C
^C
C:\>

acetate, I think that's probably the fault of the network you're located on. I have

Ping statistics for 216.143.19.37:
Packets: Sent = 100, Received = 99, Lost = 1 (1% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 78ms, Maximum = 94ms, Average = 78msand
--- 216.143.19.37 ping statistics ---
100 packets transmitted, 100 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 20.377/20.601/21.831/0.210 msfrom where I am.

Yeah.. Definitely.. I'm in Cali.. But it shouldn't be more than 100ms for me to ping a server on the east coast.. VDI average's about 87 ms for me.

Roundtrip time to 216.143.19.37, average = 1187ms, min = 861ms, max = 1682ms -- 09-Jul-01 2:57:23 AM

my bad.. it's me..... hahaha.. sorry..

To name off a few:

FROM @Home Cable Modem, Greenville, SC

14 27 ms 27 ms 27 ms [216.143.19.37]

FROM trace.nap.net

13 216.143.19.37 (216.143.19.37) 26.736 ms 26.474 ms 26.848 ms

FROM Dialtone Internet

13 216.143.19.37 (216.143.19.37) 54.349 ms 53.644 ms 53.810 ms

FROM vger.kernel.org

11 216.143.19.37 (216.143.19.37) 26.995 ms 27.570 ms 27.142 ms

FROM Level3 Weehawken

10 216.143.19.37 (216.143.19.37) 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms

Must be your ISP.

yeah it is.. damn pachell dsl

I just have to say it,

That's one hell of a deal!

You've got a PM!

How many server do you offer at this price? Limited # i guess :D Please let me know at marc@mchost.com as soon as you are taking orders ;)

Sounds like a great deal, Jeff.

Couple questions... what comes preinstalled on the server? Webmin? Also, I've got a few clients interested in your offer... can you make room for a referral bonus?

Sounds like a great deal Jeff. I'd get one if I had the money.

Great! This look like the deal i've been wait for :D

jkehe: Reserve me a machine, please. Thanks :D

Great offer!

BW jkehe you have email :D

Originally posted by Kiwi
How many server do you offer at this price?

His post states:
Price valid for new customers only. Limit one per customer.

Originally posted by Eric Radtke
Sounds like a great deal, Jeff.

Couple questions... what comes preinstalled on the server? Webmin? Also, I've got a few clients interested in your offer... can you make room for a referral bonus?

The server would come installed with whatever is installed by the default server installation of the operating system. Installing any additional software would be your responsibility, unless you order Cpanel or Smart Hosting Controller, in which case that comes preinstalled.

Unfortunately, the price is as stands, there is no room for a referral bonus.

Regards,

Originally posted by Kiwi
How many server do you offer at this price? Limited # i guess :D Please let me know at marc@mchost.com as soon as you are taking orders ;)

One server per customer... and new customers only... As for how many we'll sell at this price, we plan on letting this promotion run for at least a few weeks.

Regards,

Originally posted by Kiwi
jkehe: Reserve me a machine, please. Thanks :D

Sorry, but we aren't reserving machines at this time. If you e-mail sales@serverhost.com, we'll e-mail you when the promotion is available to be ordered.

Regards,

Just thought I'd post this here - my ICQ has been down all day if you're trying to contact me there... I'll be back on as soon as they let me reconnect. :)

Regards,

I've notice that you haven't publish the price plans for your delicated deal, so what's your non-promotion price for this similar product compare to this above price?

Originally posted by determinist
I've notice that you haven't publish the price plans for your delicated deal, so what's your non-promotion price for this similar product compare to this above price?

There is not a non-promotional price on this offer at this time. We may consider making a non-promotional price after the offer is finished if there is any interest.

Regards,

Jeff,
How much for more IP's? I will need a few hundred since Smarthostingtools CP is IP based right now.

Thanks
AH

There is Unlimited, but according to ARINs Rules! (i think)

Yes, as I stated above:

"Additional IP addresses available at no charge, following ARIN's regulations (RFC 2050)."

You will need to have justification for each address, and 80% utilization must be maintained at all times.

looks like a good deal, can you throw in plesk ? unlimited version :)

Originally posted by elijah
looks like a good deal, can you throw in plesk ? unlimited version :)

Sorry, the offer is as stands. You can purchase Plesk with the server for a one time $499 fee.

Regards,

thanks.

Hi,

how much is this Deal for actuall Customers ?

Need soon a second Server (good to have with WHM/CPanel) with much Bandwith included and after I have so good Experience with Serverhost and this Deal fit Me. OK, there is also Rackshack [(-) Cobalt] or FreeEServers [(-) long Contract Time] but they have no WHM/CPanel.

Originally posted by AnimeHosting.net
how much is this Deal for actuall Customers ?

This offer is not available to current customers. Contact me directly if you want to get a quote on an additional system.

Regards,

Excellent deal .... When can we make order for it..

Originally posted by Dedicated
Excellent deal .... When can we make order for it..

We will be announcing when the order form is available; we hope this will be happening later this week.

Regards,

I didn't see a TOS or AUP on your site. Do you allow adult-oriented sites on your dedicated servers?

Originally posted by jkehe
serverhost.com - Grand Reopening Sale

Legal adult content is permitted. Illegal or offensive content, UCE (spam), and IRCD are not permitted.

Thanks Jedito. :)

If you purchase additional transfer in blocks of 100GB, the transfer rate comes down to $1.50 per GB. With an additional 1000GB, we can come down to $1.00 per GB. Quotes on any deeper discounts for higher volume can be obtained by e-mailing sales@serverhost.com.

Thanks!

Is that NOCsoft upgrade to the new ver we have been hearing about with auto setup/billing etc. applicable to the whm/cpanel setup mentioned?

If so, would a setup need to be specified instead of the smarthostingtools option (which sounds good), and if this is so does that option give an alternative to cpanel for resold packages?

:confused:

Originally posted by Cyberpunk
Is that NOCsoft upgrade to the new ver we have been hearing about with auto setup/billing etc. applicable to the whm/cpanel setup mentioned?

NOCSoft is not available yet. You will get the latest DarkORB version of Cpanel/Webhost Manager with your server, if you choose to order that option, which is available for $70 per month additional.

If so, would a setup need to be specified instead of the smarthostingtools option (which sounds good), and if this is so does that option give an alternative to cpanel for resold packages?

I'm not sure I follow you here. Smart Hosting Controller is available as an option for $25 per month, but cannot be used in conjunction with Cpanel/Webhost Manager. All of the Smart Hosting Controller features are available on their website, which is located at www.smarthostingtools.com.

Regards,

I want one too.. Check your email!

If you e-mailed us and did not get a response yet, please send it again and let me know...

Should have more information about when we're taking orders soon. Everyone who requested it via e-mail will be notified when the order form is available.

Best Regards,

Do you support remote cold reboots?

Originally posted by kwimberl
Do you support remote cold reboots?

At this time, we don't have remote reboot capability, but we will reboot your server for you anytime at your request. There are technicians on site 24x7 to take care of your requests.

Best Regards,

Anyone here with some first hand expirence of serverhost.com?

Originally posted by Furton
Anyone here with some first hand expirence of serverhost.com?

I'm not sure this is appropriate for this thread... we have a lot of customers, some of which frequent this board.

I think references are a good way to show credentials.

I think that its totally a justified request.

Asking a company for references is like asking a salesman to tell you the truth about whatever it is they are selling. Do you think any company is going to give you a bad references? They are only going to give your thier best customers that praise thier work. Hopefully you are asking references from people who use them and not from the company directly.

What I meant is that if he wanted to get people's opinions of serverhost, he could have gone to the one of the other forums an posted it... or used the search function to see what other people have said in the past... Asking for people's opinions of a company in an advertising forum isn't really the right place to ask. Not that we have a big problem with it, I just don't like to see a thread taken off topic.

Regards,

Jeffrey:

I must threaten Justin to hurries with the design? j/k :D

Originally posted by Jedito
I must threaten Justin to hurries with the design? j/k :D

Heh... It's actually in my hands right now... Content recreation... It will be done soon enough.

Regards,

So? what are you doing here? Go there and finish it.
LOL!:D

Broadwing raised our prices by 40% just before they installed our racks, so we aren't going to be hosting our equipment there. Apparently Broadwing doesn't honor their contracts, because we have one with a price 40% less than what they were planning to charge us... which apparently means nothing. No current customers were affected by these developments.

Luckily, we found another provider who should offer much better service than Broadwing. We'll be releasing further details after we get installed with them.

So, this promotion may not be available for a few more days as a result of these developments... We'll try our best to get things online as quickly as possible.

Best Regards,

Wow - that's a rather dramatic turn around of events. I was just chatting with you on ICQ about getting a server and the Broadwing Atlanta centre. (conversation ended at 3:17 AM your time). :(

Definiteley look into level3 please. They had not such a good network times ago but where cheap. Now they are still cheap but have a FANTASTIC network with superb ping times from all over the world. I even get below 80 ms from poland LOL.

This is one of my servers

Real-time report for piss-off.com [63.215.143.52] (70% done)

Analysis: 'piss-off.com' was found in 9 hops (TTL=247). It is a HTTP server (running Apache/1.3.19 (Unix)
PHP/4.0.4pl1).

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Hop | %Loss | IP Address | Node Name | Location | Tzone | ms | Graph | Network |
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| 0 | | 161.58.180.113 | win10115.iad.dn.net | Dulles, VA, USA | -5.0 | | | Verio, Inc. |
| 1 | | 161.58.176.129 | - | ?Englewood, CO 80112 | | 0 | | Verio, Inc. |
| 2 | | 161.58.156.140 | - | ?Englewood, CO 80112 | | 0 | | Verio, Inc. |
| 3 | | 129.250.27.190 | ge-1-3-0.r00.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net | Sterling, VA, USA | -5.0 | 0 | | Verio, Inc. |
| 4 | | 129.250.3.157 | p16-7-0-0.r01.mclnva02.us.bb.verio.net | Mclean, VA, USA | -5.0 | 0 | | Verio, Inc. |
| 5 | | 129.250.5.254 | p16-0-0-0.r02.mclnva02.us.bb.verio.net | Mclean, VA, USA | -5.0 | 0 | | Verio, Inc. |
| 6 | | 129.250.9.54 | level3.p4-6-3-0.r02.mclnva02.us.bb.verio.net | Mclean, VA, USA | -5.0 | 0 | | Verio, Inc. |
| 7 | | 209.244.11.46 | gigaethernet6-0.ipcolo2.Washington1.Level3.net | Washington, DC, USA | -5.0 | 0 | | Level 3 Communications, Inc. |
| 8 | | 63.210.28.199 | - | ?Louisville, CO 80027 | | 0 | | Level 3 Communications, Inc. |
| 9 | | 63.215.143.52 | piss-off.com | ?Louisville, CO 80027 | | 0 | | Level 3 Communications, Inc. |
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http://www.piss-off.com/test2.html
(187 kb text)

I have hosted on numerous hosts and this networks kicks ass. The prices must be very competitive since I get bandwidth for about 400 / MB. I'm just not satisfied with the support and the whole attitude of my current host there. Not that I would need a lot of support, I have my own webmaster. I surely will rent a server with you, it would be great if it could be at level3

BTW I lost my password for the old username tim2 since I didn't post for a long time just so you know I didn't come here to spam or whatsoever

Is that 100gb per month or per year or what?
It sounds great. What connection you guys on, or what datacenter?
Thanks!
(by the way, deal looks amazing)

Originally posted by netxl
Is that 100gb per month or per year or what?
It sounds great. What connection you guys on, or what datacenter?
Thanks!
(by the way, deal looks amazing)

i guess per month ;)

Originally posted by netxl
Is that 100gb per month or per year or what?
It sounds great. What connection you guys on, or what datacenter?
Thanks!
(by the way, deal looks amazing)

Per month.... We'll release more info about the data center facilities shortly.

Regards,

Jeffrey Kehe

jkehe,

I am wondering how can you give out this deal for such a low low price.

Assume you put your pocket money to get the server.

How can you offer 100GB for $129 per month? :D

Originally posted by Asia
jkehe,

I am wondering how can you give out this deal for such a low low price.

Assume you put your pocket money to get the server.

How can you offer 100GB for $129 per month? :D


I'll wait for that answer, thankyou :D

because he gets per MBit for 175 from verio, is that about right? Surely interesting to know that this will be for real and a solid business model. Would hate to install all my domains and stuff and then the trouble begins. Verio would be a nice connectivity though :) Go Jeff go, I'm checking this thread about every hour

Originally posted by Erich
Go Jeff go, I'm checking this thread about every hour

LOL :D

Same here :)

Originally posted by Jedito


LOL :D

Same here :)

So i am ;) :) :D

Bandwidth pricing has dropped significantly since our last promotion. We can offer 100GB because our cost on it has dropped, and because most people won't use the whole 100GB anyway.

As for us going with Verio, that is still an option, but not very likely. Verio uses Switch and Data's facility in Atlanta, which means we'd be dealing with a middle man for reboots, which is something we don't want to deal with ever again. If they provide us with information contrary to that, we may consider them.

We'll let everyone know as soon as more information becomes available.

"...most people won't use the whole 100GB anyway..."

yeah that is for granted, I for instance use about 10 GB and less but would be very happy to have one of these servers since I pay a lot more now

Switch and Data is a neutral fiberobtic facility, we have them COLO.com and equinix in chicago. Why dont you just not deal with verio and get a cabinet there and bandwidth.

Thats what s&D is there for. They should have at least 10 carriers in there, and you should be able to get a good price for space and bandwidth...

Originally posted by JBIZ718
Why dont you just not deal with verio and get a cabinet there and bandwidth.

Verio does NOT have their own facilities in Atlanta... It even says that on their web site at http://www.verio.com/products/datacenter/locations.cfm. We aren't impressed with Switch and Data in Atlanta or Charlotte, so that's why we're not really looking at Verio.

We will make our decision and let everyone know... While we appreciate your suggestions, we have been investigating and weighing several options for months now... and we feel like we can make a decision on our own.

Regards,

Well im not sure who you are, but I have spent over 2 year researching the market, and once we get fully funded we are going to use Equinix. Ive been in about every datacenter around chicago, so please i know my stuff also...

Also if you read my post, you would know that I said why dont you just not deal with Verio....


Obviously if verio found S&D suitable, you either have very high standards or cant cut out the middleman.

Either way, I take your comment as insulting, obviously your choice of Broadwing, wasnt a good choice when it was time to sign the contracts....

It's probably a bit of a different situation in Atlanta and Charlotte than it is in Chicago.

I went to tour the Charlotte facility, and they have ONE technician and ONE security guard for the entire facility. That didn't make me want to sign right up. We need someone in the facility 24x7 to go and do a reboot... Our customers not only demand it, but we certainly wouldn't want to have a server down for an hour while their one technician drove to the center to reboot a machine.

The Verio salesman told me himself that he didn't recommend I go into Atlanta... he recommended I put all of the equipment into their super data center out in California. If you have to FORCE the sales guy to give you a quote in Atlanta, it doesn't make me want to run and sign up. The quote Switch and Data gave us directly for the same space that Verio gave us was also almost twice as much per rack... And the Switch and Data rep told me that I should be very weary of that price, because it is below Verio's cost.

As for Broadwing... We signed the contract, and were told that the facilities would be installed by the end of last week. We then got an e-mail and a phone call telling us that our prices were going to increase 40% if we wanted service installed. So we cancelled. That's not the way we do business. And it's certainly not our fault. Sure, we could force them to honor that price... but we don't want to try and get support after doing that... it would be such a mess.

I didn't mean to be insulting... not at all. As you can see, we have a very good reason for not going with either Switch and Data facility... regardless of if we get service through Switch and Data, or through a Switch and Data reseller.

Regards,

Originally posted by JBIZ718
Also if you read my post, you would know that I said why dont you just not deal with Verio....

Well, you added this after I responded... I guess I misinterpreted what you said... We don't like to deal with middle men in addition to the reasons I mentioned above.

Regards,

Thanks for clearing that up.

In chicago its a little different, there are datacenters all over.

Theres probalby at least 20 downtown alone, and that not including DOwnersgrove and Oakbrook

I mean you have verio, savvis, genuity, uunet, att, verizon, s&D, colo, equinix, broadwing and who knows how many more.

Its nuts here, just alot of options. Well, a solid choice, youll find a solid solution, keep looking

Joe

Originally posted by JBIZ718
In chicago its a little different, there are datacenters all over.

There certainly are plenty of choices in greater Atlanta... and that is why we can eliminate Switch and Data (and resellers of Switch and Data) from the list of potential centers. Level3 actually is reselling Switch and Data too right now... because their facility in Atlanta is full.

The beauty of Atlanta is that you can get transit from pretty much anyone with a simple cross connect if you're in 55 or 56 Marietta Street... And there are a few providers there that we are strongly considering.

Well, anyway, I've got to be awake to talk to more sales people here in a few hours, so I'm going to bed. Have a great night everyone. :)

Regards,

Jeffrey: I am definately interested in your server offer but with around 300GBs of Data Transfer ...is that possible?

Kiwi:

Yes, you can use as much transfer as you want with this server... it's fully burstable up to 100Mbps.

If you pay by the GB, it's $2.00 per GB. If you purchase additional transfer in blocks of 100GB, the transfer rate comes down to $1.50 per GB. With an additional 1000GB, we can come down to $1.00 per GB. Quotes on any deeper discounts for higher volume can be obtained by e-mailing sales@serverhost.com.

Regards,

Jeff,

Get the NOC straightened out yet? :D

I'm a current Server Host customer, and to everyone who was asking for clients using them, they've been nothing but great!

I've always been able to get a hold of Jeff immediately when I need a reboot, or I see the connection down (which has only been twice). I'm on my fourth month, and I'm bringing all my dedicated server business here!

You won't be disappointed! Keep up the great work Jeff!

Originally posted by brandonk
Get the NOC straightened out yet? :D

Not yet. Hopefully we'll know more tomorrow.

Regards,

Originally posted by jkehe
Hopefully tomorrow we'll know more tomorrow.

I see you're going without sleep until you get this all sorted out. Such great dedication is rarely seen. :D

Originally posted by cperciva
I see you're going without sleep until you get this all sorted out. Such great dedication is rarely seen. :D

Hehe... yes... without sleep... so sleepy. Nah, I'm getting sleep, but only like 2 or 3 hours a night.. at very odd times. :) I really want to bring this to resolution, and I'm working diligently to do so.

Regards,

Jeffrey, when comparing the price of $129 to the lowest prices of other host which seem to be more in the $200-$300 per month range, it does lead me to ask myself "does this deal sound too good to be true?" and "what's the catch?". Since the Racklocation/Pogolinux debarcle, I have not noticed any other hosts rushing in to fill this market niche (that is, ignoring the raq hosts). I have also watched the stutters that Weinbar has been through with providing support for its customers. I raise Weinbar, because it comes to mind as being about the next cheepest dedicated host for high bandwidth hosting (in terms of the bandwidth prices publicly advertised on the web site). Even then, Weinbar's prices start at over $200 per month. I'm taking about hosts who charge by transfer here (not by true bandwidth - mbps). I am also aware of the general principle that everything costs money and nothing is free.

So while I am genuinly interested in your offer (when it is available), I must admit to being a little sceptical about it. :eek: So, without giving away your business secrets can you explain, how it is that you can undercut the rest of the market by such a big margin?

I believe the trick is that this offer is only available for new customers, and is limited to one per person. So he hopes they will order additional servers in the near future at the normal prices.

But could be wrong..

It also might have something to do with the fact that he will be dealing with a new NOC, and will probably have ALOT of space he needs to fill quickly. So by offering a deal, which might be at cost, or right along that line, he is able to fill up enough space to cover his costs for the new NOC. So he'll have enough customers in the NOC so that he's in the black, but still more room to add customers paying a nonpromotional rate.

If this were a standard package, I'd be very skeptical.

BTW, are these those gateways? Sound a bit similar to them...

Originally posted by brandonk
BTW, are these those gateways? Sound a bit similar to them...

The gateways were SCSI, plus they weren't rackmount. So I doubt it.

Originally posted by brandonk
So he'll have enough customers in the NOC so that he's in the black, but still more room to add customers paying a nonpromotional rate.

If this were a standard package, I'd be very skeptical.

BTW, are these those gateways? Sound a bit similar to them...

You hit the nail on the head. :)

No, they aren't Gateways. To this day we have not received more than the first Gateway that we ordered... Still have 10 outstanding (they were supposed to be delivered by July 6).

Regards,

Originally posted by Planet Z
The gateways were SCSI, plus they weren't rackmount. So I doubt it.

But, they do have IDE capability, and they can be rackmounted (2U case wouldn't be a problem)... I won't say that we definately won't use parts from Gateway systems to build these special offer systems, but I don't see it happening.

Originally posted by jkehe
But, they do have IDE capability, and they can be rackmounted (2U case wouldn't be a problem)... I won't say that we definately won't use parts from Gateway systems to build these special offer systems, but I don't see it happening.

Sure. But it's probably more work that it's worth to convert them. (Assuming, of course, that they actually arrive...)

Originally posted by Planet Z


Sure. But it's probably more work that it's worth to convert them. (Assuming, of course, that they actually arrive...)

It would depend on how valuable space will be. Those towers certainly hog more than 2U...

July 6th, their a bit off eh?

Originally posted by brandonk
It would depend on how valuable space will be. Those towers certainly hog more than 2U...

I mean in terms of cost. You might be better off just buying prebuilt rackmount servers instead.

Why not build your own servers totally? If there are reliable suppliers of the right parts in the right numbers why not just cut out the middlemen, get your h/w techs to build your servers?

You'd get exactly the specs you want and likely a lot cheaper if youre already putting out a lot for a new datacentre.

If I'm missing something here feel free to correct me. :)

Might be a good marketing aspect ie, "Ground up all our own expert design" or something.

We do that already. Every single server we host (except for colocated equipment) was built by us, with the exception of a 2U Dell, which we got through an acquisition, and a few Cobalt RaQ's.

Regards,

Originally posted by Cyberpunk
Why not build your own servers totally? If there are reliable suppliers of the right parts in the right numbers why not just cut out the middlemen, get your h/w techs to build your servers?

You'd get exactly the specs you want and likely a lot cheaper if youre already putting out a lot for a new datacentre.

If I'm missing something here feel free to correct me. :)

Might be a good marketing aspect ie, "Ground up all our own expert design" or something.

As Jeff said, they already do this. The only reason we were talking about it, was because their were some very affordable Gateway servers but they were in full size cases. As Jeff said, he bought ten of them, and I don't think you could build them with those stats for the $500. So in this case, it woudln't have been cheaper to buy them and convert them.

Just a little explanation.;)

Well, that page doesn't work. I really want one. Is there another website, or a phone number? If there is, what is the offer id number? Also, could you host websites on this? Would it be fast?
-Kyle :cool:

Originally posted by Kylecool
Well, that page doesn't work. I really want one. Is there another website, or a phone number? If there is, what is the offer id number? Also, could you host websites on this? Would it be fast?

The web page works. There just isn't anything there yet. :)

From the original offer:

We're not taking orders just yet. Expect the order form to come online with the serverhost.com redesign some time this week. Just wanted to give the webhostingtalk.com crew a heads up on this excellent deal.

Yes, you can host websites on this. Yes, it will be fast.

Regards,

Hey :lol:

Once again this forum has become a shop talk amongst the hosts. Oh well, its your industry, no wonder it gets so much heat :angry: You can only get glib answers from sales staff. When you do get information you wonder if you can trust it, like the ICQ conversation I reported earlier in the thread. There seems to be an inverse relationship to how professional a potential host's web site appears and the actual quality of the service. That is, the best presented web sites often belong to resellers who promise shonky offers (unlimited this, that). Most of the seemingly "reputable" web hosts that post here have web sites that don't work, with broken links all over the place, and no where near enough information for a newbie prospect. Those hosts that post in these forums seem more interested in bandying around their signatures by posting benign and trivial drivle. If you ask a sensible newbie question such as posting asking how do (dedicated) hosts actually meter data transfer ("bandwidth") or my last post all you get is deafining silence. Ha! If a sales rep came out to visit me and carried on like such a drongo, he'd be shown the door with a clip around his head. Good day!

I meant for my post to go in the gateway 500 dollar offer. Sorry! :(

Originally posted by freakysid
Once again this forum has become...

I'm not sure why this was appropriate to this thread. I have tried my best to answer questions here. Our web page was pulled to be redesigned... We stopped taking orders, and focused on our current customers for a while... I don't see why we should draw criticism from that.

If someone needs a better response to something they received back from serverhost or Plusweb, feel free to e-mail it to me directly, and I'll be sure you get the information you need. I work hard here... and I know most of my customers are very happy with the support they receive.

In reading your original post, I see that your only question was in fact answered... So, why the nastygram?

Regards,

Originally posted by freakysid
Jeffrey, when comparing the price of $129 to the lowest prices of other host which seem to be more in the $200-$300 per month range, it does lead me to ask myself "does this deal sound too good to be true?" and "what's the catch?". Since the Racklocation/Pogolinux debarcle, I have not noticed any other hosts rushing in to fill this market niche (that is, ignoring the raq hosts). I have also watched the stutters that Weinbar has been through with providing support for its customers. I raise Weinbar, because it comes to mind as being about the next cheepest dedicated host for high bandwidth hosting (in terms of the bandwidth prices publicly advertised on the web site). Even then, Weinbar's prices start at over $200 per month. I'm taking about hosts who charge by transfer here (not by true bandwidth - mbps). I am also aware of the general principle that everything costs money and nothing is free.

So while I am genuinly interested in your offer (when it is available), I must admit to being a little sceptical about it. :eek: So, without giving away your business secrets can you explain, how it is that you can undercut the rest of the market by such a big margin?

I think that for someone who is looking for a first dedicated server, this is a reasonable question to have in one's mind. I am one of those people, and I'm sure there are others, who have to make sense of a situation before jumping in, and I hope you can see that its a reasonable mindset to have.

BTW, not all the above was pointed at you directly, just a built up frustration and personal opinion about how many hosts seem to behave around here.

Originally posted by freakysid


I think that for someone who is looking for a first dedicated server, this is a reasonable question to have in one's mind. I am one of those people, and I'm sure there are others, who have to make sense of a situation before jumping in, and I hope you can see that its a reasonable mindset to have.

BTW, not all the above was pointed at you directly, just a built up frustration and personal opinion about how many hosts seem to behave around here.

Yes, of course, your concern was justified. I believe I answered it though, with the response that I gave to one of the users who explained it for me. We're going to have a bunch of space, and we're basically selling these things at just above cost to try and stay in the black.

Regards,

Well, almost. We're going to delay offering this special until a later date, due to problems with provisioning in Atlanta. We want to get our current customers online and happy first in Atlanta before we start up with this offer.

We *may* take a few offers from Webhostingtalk.com members, depending upon the load on our technicians. I'll keep everyone updated...

In the interim, we may offer a co-location special... but we'll see.

I apologize for any inconvenience that this may have caused. We spoke a little too soon.

Regards,

Jeffrey, any idea how later that "later day" might be? You got me all excited.

Peter

how much do additional servers cost? first one cheap, is the 2nd one way overpriced?

Originally posted by jkehe
Well, almost. We're going to delay offering this special until a later date, due to problems with provisioning in Atlanta.

Do you have any estimate of when that later date will be? I need a dediacted server soon and your offer is best I have seen so far. I have tried emailing my questions to the address listed at www.serverhost.com , but they appear to be slow to respond.

Originally posted by NVB


Do you have any estimate of when that later date will be?

We are waiting on ARIN (www.arin.net) to send us our block of IP addresses. Once that is completed, we'll start taking orders.

Regards,

Could a moderator please give me access to edit the original post? I e-mailed you guys about it, but I still haven't heard anything back.

Thanks!

Jeff, How long does it take for the IP block to arrive?

Peter

Originally posted by ckpeter
Jeff, How long does it take for the IP block to arrive?

Far too long, actually. We've been waiting for over a week now. I got a response back from ARIN yesterday asking for more information, so it's getting closer.

Regards,

we can wait .... as long as we get the deal ;)

Originally posted by Erich
because he gets per MBit for 175 from verio, is that about right? Surely interesting to know that this will be for real and a solid business model. Would hate to install all my domains and stuff and then the trouble begins. Verio would be a nice connectivity though :) Go Jeff go, I'm checking this thread about every hour

Im just taking a stab at that comments but its also probably measured using the 95th percentile not the actual or average. There is a difference in pricing structure that way and 100gig for $129 is actually a very profitable amount using the 95th. 1mb on the 95th is sold as low as 175 per mbp in some places, Ive seen it with me own eyes ;) .

how does that whole 95th percintle thing work? i've never dealt w/ that

Originally posted by multipleimage
how does that whole 95th percintle thing work? i've never dealt w/ that

I dont want to drag Jeff's thread off topic here. There are many threads about the 95th on this board and I would be happy to explain (just as Im sure Jeff would) if you IM, email or contact me via ICQ. The bottom line is the 95th is used by most companies and ALL telco companies and upstream providers.

Jag:

Please don't mislead people. The 100GB included here is measured using the monthly average from MRTG, which is definately not 95th Percentile.

The $129 doesn't only include the transfer, but it includes a server as well. The server certainly isn't free. Plus, add in the cost of the switch port, the cost of power, etc... and well, this is really a good deal.

If you want to get more information on 95th percentile, you can visit http://www.svwh.net/products/95percentile.shtml. That was posted on here in a thread earlier this month, I believe. We use the monthly average from MRTG, which is nothing like this... I think Charles @ DTWebworks calls it the 50th Percentile, but I'm not sure that is accurate.

Quite a few providers are now moving to the 90th Percentile... We talked to a number of providers that bill that way when we were considering who to go with.

Regards,

My apologies for the assumption.

I would love to know how you can sell bandwidth for that price using the average. Let us in on your secret . I would think you want to make something off this deal so if you made measely $29 ( hardly worth the cost of the server since $29 would take over a year to recover the costs of the server) then how do you sell bandwidth for $.50 per gig using the average or 50th percentile in that package?
Im just curious

Originally posted by jkehe


Quite a few providers are now moving to the 90th Percentile... We talked to a number of providers that bill that way when we were considering who to go with.

Regards,

You are correct with that, many are starting to use the 90th instead of the 95th.

Originally posted by Jag
I would love to know.....

If you read what has already been posted, this has already been discussed.

Regards,

Originally posted by jkehe


If you read what has already been posted, this has already been discussed.

Regards,

I was just curious what provider you go through to get bandwidth for $.50 per gig using the average which is roughly $.20 per gig on the 95th. Those prices dont exist as far as I know but maybe there is a bandwidth fairy I don't know about :) If I leave a quarter under my pillow will she leave me a gig ?

Oh by the way, don't get the wrong impression here. Im not attacking you in any way. From one host to another I just want to know where you get this low bandwidth from. You can icq or email me if you wish.

E-mail will be sent shortly.

I'm not the only one doing it... so it's not too magical. :) Someone has practically plagarized my original offer word for word already in this very forum. Not that I care, but he could have at least used his own words.

Regards,

I would like to know too. Please e-mail me.

Jeff,

Perhaps they did copy your offer, but a few things stand out.

1-They are already turning up these servers, they didn't post the offer almost 3 to 4 weeks ago, and say "Opps, wait...wait some more, wait again, etc."

2-Seems like the other offer has much better connectivity L3 and a few other higher profile backbones.

Plus, the other offer is in class A hosting facilities, Equinix, tops in the industry for a neutral place with awesome connectivity.

See, I was going to take your deal, back when you posted it in the beginning of July, but then you had all these reasons for not being able to offer the service. I'd be curious if you turned any of these up yet?

The on again, off again, on again, off again bit is a tade unprofessional.


Tom

I agree with you Tomk ... I was interested in this offer but had to wait and wait ...still waiting ...! nothing happen...

I have contacted Pegasus - pwebtech.com last Thursday and on Friday signed the contract.

Originally posted by TomK
Jeff,

Perhaps they did copy your offer, but a few things stand out.

1-They are already turning up these servers, they didn't post the offer almost 3 to 4 weeks ago, and say "Opps, wait...wait some more, wait again, etc."

2-Seems like the other offer has much better connectivity L3 and a few other higher profile backbones.

Plus, the other offer is in class A hosting facilities, Equinix, tops in the industry for a neutral place with awesome connectivity.

See, I was going to take your deal, back when you posted it in the beginning of July, but then you had all these reasons for not being able to offer the service. I'd be curious if you turned any of these up yet?

The on again, off again, on again, off again bit is a tade unprofessional.


Tom

Don't attack someone's post saying this or that offers the same at the same price. This is a post where someone advertised his services ...if it was your post you wouldn't like it either if someone would do this. ;) Anyways, both offers look great and are from good companies. :)

Moderators: Please lock this thread.

When this offer becomes available, I'll start a new thread, because of the amount of bashing that is being allowed to take place... I'm going to change the offer for the better, anyway.

Regards,

It was a smart move by the competition though...
This is/was in very high demand, but wasn't available yet. They made what was in demand available.

I'm interested to see how much better an offer like this could get!

Originally posted by jkehe
Moderators: Please lock this thread.

When this offer becomes available, I'll start a new thread, because of the amount of bashing that is being allowed to take place... I'm going to change the offer for the better, anyway.

As requested although I don't see much :smash: bashing going on here. I see a bunch of people who were interested in this offer, yet for whatever reason(s) you couldn't deliver it, and yes, the natives :stan: get restless :nuts: . Competition :pimp: stepped in after x days and offered it (quite smart I might add :homer: ).

I've recommended this before and I'll recommend it again: Posting 'coming soon' offers (no matter how good they are), isn't good for the host or the member who is interested in signing up. It just seems to make everyone twitchy. :kaioken:

Look forward to the better offer however (not to dwell on the bad stuff too long) as I'm sure it will be excellent!