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View Full Version : Would like host who is not afraid of a CI|Host lawsuit to contact me
Deb Suran 05-29-2003, 03:15 PM This might be more appropriate in the offers forum, but I'll ask the mods to leave it here as it is likely to get more exposure in this forum.
The host of my http://forumhosts.com/hosts.htm website has been threatened with a lawsuit for hosting that website, which is highly critical of CI|Host. I would like a host who is familiar with CI|Host and their practices, hates them as much as I do, and has a legal team already in place that deals with such things to contact me if facing the threat of a lawsuit, or an actual lawsuit, isn't too scary. Thanks.
By the way, if anyone else would like to post the court transcript at http://forumhosts.com/transcript.pdf at your own website, feel free. And if anyone has the time to convert it to an HTML file I'd sure appreciate a copy.
allera 05-29-2003, 03:23 PM While I don't have the lawyers or financial backing to wage war in a courtroom over this kind of stuff, I do very much dislike CI|Host.
Let me know if I can help.
Artashes 05-29-2003, 03:27 PM Deb, a few times I asked you to remove false accusations against TheWorldJournal.com from your site, but you pretend like you never hear it, right?
I'll support CI|Host to that end if you don't. Although I dislike the company myself. :cartman:
Andrew 05-29-2003, 03:31 PM Why do you dislike it? Wasn't it number one on your list until people here chided you?
Artashes 05-29-2003, 03:34 PM Originally posted by lightnin
Why do you dislike it? Wasn't it number one on your list until people here chided you?
I took a look at their BBB profile once again. ;) Scared me to death.
I, Brian 05-29-2003, 03:38 PM If you cannot afford a lawyer then just send a letter back threatening to sue for harrassment, and then represent yourself.
indyjon 05-29-2003, 05:21 PM What kind of traffic and/or resource requirements does this site require?
WannaBaHost 05-29-2003, 05:22 PM CI/host is the worst ever. I got screwed by them and netsol all in one greasing. If I can help let me know also. They can't sue you for what your doing the transcripts are public record.
Deb Suran 05-29-2003, 05:28 PM What kind of traffic and/or resource requirements does this site require?
The site has averaged about 240,000kb usage per month over the past 12 months. It's just a few HTML and PDF pages, very small and simple.
If you cannot afford a lawyer then just send a letter back threatening to sue for harrassment, and then represent yourself.
And fly to Texas for all the hearings....
I'm thinking that a foreign host that doesn't have to respond to an American lawsuit might be the best way to go here.
Deb Suran 05-29-2003, 05:32 PM OK, let me make one thing perfectly clear here. There is no "can't sue" here - they can sue you for anything. You can say "they can't win," but that's pointless after they've sued you and forced you to spend several thousand dollars defending yourself in a Texas court, then lost or dropped their case. You're still out a bunch of money. That's why I sued them to try and get my money back, and filed a complaint against their lawyer with the Texas bar Association.
allera 05-29-2003, 05:33 PM Originally posted by Deb Suran
And fly to Texas for all the hearings....
Not according to that transcript you posted. :D I found it humerous: "I don't know why she refers to you as 'alleged opposing counsel,' but anyway..." (heehee), among other things (like apparently lying to the Court).
Edit: Whoops, I guess if you didn't want to fly over you'd need a warm body there to represent you in some form, eh, even if they couldn't sue you in TX. Nice way to make you waste your cash. Isn't there something to protect you from that?
Incognito 05-29-2003, 08:18 PM You host it far offshore in a totally uncooperative country. That's the only way I know a host would put up with it. Of course, you are still fully exposed.
jimmytimbo 05-29-2003, 09:54 PM fyi, the CI\Host lawyer is Faulkner's(is that how his name is spelled?) mom. i kid you not. CI\Host tried to sue Communitech.net a few years back when the CI\Host nameservers ALL blewup and werent online for about 6 days. The Communitech legal team got their counterparts in Texas involved, and squashed his little mom.
they are a joke, dont fear them. welcome to freedom of speach, etc.
-JT
Deb Suran 05-29-2003, 10:29 PM Thanks, everyone, it looks like I'll be hosting here in the States with a host who's been litigating against them for four years, and doesn't give a damn if they try to slap him with another lawsuit.
Yes, Carole Faulkner is Christopher Faulkner's mother. The "don't fear" part only works if you can afford a lawyer, however. If they sue you and you don't show up in court they can get a default judgement against you, which has happened to at least one former customer to the tune of $25,000. And that's all legal.
And fly to Texas for all the hearings....
Not according to that transcript you posted.
Er - who do you think was representing the defendant? A lawyer he was forced to pay for. If you're going to represent yourself you have to be there for the hearings if you're not going to hire a lawyer. Someone has to be there. that's the whole point - CI|Host doesnt' care if they lose their case in court - they've already won as soon as they file their lawsuit because they've forced you to spend money to defend yourself. That was largely the point of my complaint to the Texas Bar. They KNOW the state of Texas has no jurisdiction in many of the cases they file, they KNOW they're going to lose, but the point of their many lawsuits is harassment and intimidation.
indyjon 05-29-2003, 10:36 PM Ah yes, but by the sounds of it they have estanblised a pattern of BS lawsuits. If that is the case then I would say a good lawyer could make some money on this deal$$.
okihost 05-29-2003, 11:59 PM What happened to 'freedom of speech'?
I don't understand why it such an issue to host this(though I do not want to get involved) when things like paypalsucks.com exist.. I am sure CeeIHost's lawsuits would be nothing but a drop in the bucket compared to what PayPal could do.
bumpylight 06-01-2003, 06:47 AM :flamethr: PayPal has much more to lose in goodwill (if that is the word) by appearing in publicity to be "the big bully", plus they have much deeper pockets out of which to pay damages awarded from a successful countersuit.
Originally posted by OKIHost
What happened to 'freedom of speech'?
I don't understand why it such an issue to host this(though I do not want to get involved) when things like paypalsucks.com exist.. I am sure CeeIHost's lawsuits would be nothing but a drop in the bucket compared to what PayPal could do.
Deb Suran 06-03-2003, 08:08 AM Forumhosts.com is now safely hosted by a host who's used to litigating against CI Host. Thanks to everyone who e-mailed, I appreciate the suggestions and support.
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