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After two years in consulting business, we are expanding our services to include web hosting. Here's what we offer:

The common features of hosting plans include:

- domain hosting (i.e. www.yourdomain.com)
- subdomain hosting (i.e. yourdomain.hostiva.com)
- unlimited subdomains with domain hosting
- support all international domains
- no setup fee / 24-hour setup
- unmetered bandwidth
- comprehensive web-based account control panel
- unlimited email accounts
- unlimited ftp accounts
- unlimited email forwarders
- unlimited mailing lists
- support CGI, PHP, ASP
- support SSI
- support SSL
- support FrontPage Extensions
- comprehensive site statistics
- access to raw logs
- backup utility
- network monitoring
- email customer support
- Akopia e-commerce platform
- all Virtual Hosting accounts are granted free access to our state-of-the-art help desk system.
- all Virtual Hosting accounts support MySQL databases.
- all Virtual Hosting accounts support full telnet access.
- all Virtual Hosting accounts are provided with own IP address.

Shared Hosting 20 - $4.95 yearly
20 MB disk space

Virtual Hosting 100 - $2.95 monthly
100 MB disk space
payable $35.40 annually

Virtual Hosting 200 - $4.95 monthly
200 MB disk space
payable $29.70 semi-annually

Virtual Hosting 300 - $6.95 monthly
300 MB disk space
payable $20.85 quarterly

Virtual Hosting 500 - $9.95 monthly
500 MB disk space


http://www.hostiva.com

$5 a year? i know i shouldnt bash other hosts but thats just crazy

Good offer...but I have to agree with SplashHost on this.

lonesail, you might want to change the link "products" on your website. Webhosting is a "service" that you provide.

Good luck with your new company.
:beer:

Originally posted by lonesail
Virtual Hosting 100 - $2.95 monthly
100 MB disk space
payable $35.40 annually

I wondered how much bandwidth is included for an account with 100 MB disk space and $2.95 monthly and took a look at your site, it says "unmetered bandwidth". Wow! And your terms even say


Bandwidth and Resources
Hostiva offers an unmetered bandwidth policy by maintaining large ratios of bandwidth per customer. In rare cases, Hostiva may find a customer to be using server resources (including bandwidth, processing power and stored email) to such an extent that he or she may jeopardize server performance and resources available for other customers. In such instances, Hostiva reserves the right to suspend or terminate that site immediately. This policy is only implemented in extreme circumstances and is intended to prevent the misuse of our servers

Originally posted by lonesail
- unmetered bandwidth

Shared Hosting 20 - $4.95 yearly
20 MB disk space

Good luck, you'll need it :nuts:

Thank you everyone for your responses.

Alan, as I undersdand, you are also a web hosting provider and thus a competitor. While I appreciate your comments, please be carefull in making negative remarks about viability of our business. We DID do a market research before starting this, and have our reasons for offering the plans we offer.

Walter, the unmetered service is just that. Legal phrases in or "terms of service" are only for our protection angainst abusers, such as adult site owners or people who decide to use 500MB of space to store and constantly transfer large files.

Kiwi, we MAKE luck ;)

Thank you all.

Looks good. One comment though -- you might want to change your logo. It looks like a ripoff of the Site5.com logo.

I am not accusing. But be honest. You wouldn't have any relation to Yusef Quasim, or GXHosting now would you? :dgrin:

Justin, we were not aware of Site5 logo whan we designed ours. We'll look into this.

Aaron: no. Why do you ask?

So did you have permission to do this?

<your site hostiva.com)>
Hostiva offers an unmetered bandwidth policy by maintaining large ratios of bandwidth per customer. In rare cases, Hostiva may find a customer to be using server resources (including bandwidth, processing power and stored email) to such an extent that he or she may jeopardize server performance and resources available for other customers.

<fasthosts.com>
Fasthosts offers an unlimited use policy by maintaining very large ratios of bandwidth per customer. In rare cases, Fasthosts may find a customer to be using server resources to such an extent that he or she may jeopardize server performance and resources for other customers

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What confuses me more is that you are not a FASTHOSTS reseller. Why not steal your hosts TOS Agreement?

Hi lonesail,

Can you confirm it's a $4.95 per year for the 20mb plan?

Do you have a demo for the control panel?

What kind of machines do you have?

What about the connections speed?

Would like to know the answers.

ebird

I was gonna say I've seen that TOS on fasthosts before.

TechnoHosts, for your information this is a text our lawyers gave us.

Anyone else?

Why do you always get on peoples back because of the TOS or AUP? I mean, how many different hosts are out there that are offering the same (or at least almost the same) kind of services? Do you expect all of them to have different TOS/AUP? I can understand if you complain if they take another hosts design, but how many people can actually write a whole TOS/AUP just by themselves? I can tell you not many, and not many have the funds to pay for a professionally made one.

I feel like I have gotten stuck in a loop of whining. Every single time I visit this site, people are putting down hosts because they are using someone elses TOS/AUP, their logo looks like another hosts, or their plans are the same price, etc.. Aren't you getting tired of this?

I don't see what it is of your business if they are using FastHosts TOS? If it really bothers you that much, then email FastHosts and let them know. If they want to do something about it, then it is their business, not yours!

Originally posted by ebird
Hi lonesail,

Can you confirm it's a $4.95 per year for the 20mb plan?

Do you have a demo for the control panel?

What kind of machines do you have?

What about the connections speed?

Would like to know the answers.

ebird

+ where is your noc? and is it yours?

Ebird,

We got servers with 800Mhz with 256MB RAM and 1Ghz with 512 MB RAM. We will soon be upgrading memory on all of them to be at least 512MB.

Connectivity is through DS3 over OC192 Fiber.

We've got 99.5% Network Uptime Guarantee

Of course I can confirm $4.95/year. We don't have demo setup yet, unfortunately.

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7/14/2001: please see message below regarding prices. Demo of control panel is operational.

Is it just me or everything on http://www.hostiva.com/products.htm is $1 more then what's stated in the original message? Boy, pretty quick in changing their price... will this continue?

Good luck and as most others said, 'you'll need it'. Also how much is unmetered bandwidth? :eek:

lonesail unmetered bandwidth or not, you've done a fine job of posting. Feel free to report anything that seems off, and we'll get to it ASAP, but like I said, you've handled it. Strangely, some of very hosts that complain that other hosts/members attack them on the forums are attacking you (odd how that works eh?).

About the Site5 logo, I find it to be nothing like yours, and wouldn't worry about it.

Hmm it looks similar to the site5 logo to me :D and who are you refering to chicken?

We were forced to change our payment gateway (they weren't performing up to our standards). Therefore, to remain profitable we had to adjust some prices.

We do not expect to raise prices anytime in the forceeable future.

Furthermore, all the people who have signed-up at original prices, have them locked for as long as they keep renewing their accounts.

Thank you for you interest.

Originally posted by Da Red Monkey
Is it just me or everything on http://www.hostiva.com/products.htm is $1 more then what's stated in the original message? Boy, pretty quick in changing their price... will this continue?

Originally posted by lonesail
We were forced to change our payment gateway (they weren't performing up to our standards). Therefore, to remain profitable we had to adjust some prices.

We do not expect to raise prices anytime in the forceeable future.

Furthermore, all the people who have signed-up at original prices, have them locked for as long as they keep renewing their accounts.

Thank you for you interest.



I'll take that to mean that I can't get a domain I use for a few email accounts transferred to you and get the $4.95 a year plan.
It'll cost me $5.95 a year??

Just when I was startin' ta like you :D

Could you define what you so call 'Unmetered Bandwidth'

I owe you at least the right to explain your interpretation of what this is in reference to your business.

Also so to prove that its not fasthost.

There IP goes to HostNOC which goes to Burst.

The end result of this is Burst.net so they dont have anything to do with Fasthost

Sorry. Existing customers have the 4.95 rate locked in, but new customers will have to apply for the new plan.

It really was a hard decision to do this, but we could not keep signing up customers through new gateway at an old rate, and continue to be profitable. And we owe to our existing customers and shareholders to remain profitable.

Again, we apologise, but it's out of our hands.

Originally posted by AnIdiot


I'll take that to mean that I can't get a domain I use for a few email accounts transferred to you and get the $4.95 a year plan.
It'll cost me $5.95 a year??

I posted this on another "Hostiva" thread on this board
(in response to question by Kiwi):

Well, we're just starting out, so we temporarily set it to "unlimited", simply because we don't want to set it too high or too low. But it will not always stay that way. Once we have a good sence how much bandwith average customer needs for each account type, we will set limits.

Of course, for customers that signup with us while we have "unlimited" offer, these new limits will not apply and will stay unlimited as long as they have an account with us.

We expect to put these limits in place by mid august. Maybe sooner.

Thank you for asking.


Originally posted by JBIZ718
Could you define what you so call 'Unmetered Bandwidth'

I owe you at least the right to explain your interpretation of what this is in reference to your business.

Also so to prove that its not fasthost.

There IP goes to HostNOC which goes to Burst.

The end result of this is Burst.net so they dont have anything to do with Fasthost

I'm not going to attack your unmetered bandwidth but I have a question. If your bandwidth is unmetered, then how do you know when someone is using too much.

From Dictionary.comme·ter3 (mtr)
n.
Any of various devices designed to measure time, distance, speed, or intensity or indicate and record or regulate the amount or volume, as of the flow of a gas or an electric current.
A postage meter.
A parking meter.

tr.v. me·tered, me·ter·ing, me·ters
To measure with a meter: meter a flow of water.
To supply in a measured or regulated amount: metered the allotted gasoline to each vehicle.
To imprint with postage or other revenue stamps by means of a postage meter or similar device: metering bulk mail.
To provide with a parking meter or parking meters: meter parking spaces.
Therefore they must be metered, or measured, in order for you to know if you use to much. Therefore you are lying on your site because you meter their bandwidth use to see if they use "too many resources"

They have statistics,for each site so if they notice that they have a lot of bandwith being taken up. They can always check the stats on the persons site. Which is not very hard.;)

If they have statistics then it's not unmetered is it? I think a better term would be to say that bandwidth isn't "monitored". ;)

hmm i dunno how you remain profitable but I see that you're doing a good job attacking the others attacking your plans so i'll won't put my input in ;) Nice site design btw

Agreed... He's convinced me on most of the topics discussed (I'm ignoring the concept of unlimited bandwidth).

Too bad we're a competing web host and not a potential customer. :D

lim·it
n.
The point, edge, or line beyond which something cannot or may not proceed.

limits The boundary surrounding a specific area; bounds: within the city limits.

A confining or restricting object, agent, or influence.

The greatest or least amount, number, or extent allowed or possible: a withdrawal limit of $200; no minimum age limit.

Informal. One that approaches or exceeds certain limits, as of credibility, forbearance, or acceptability: He is the limit of irresponsibility.

tr.v. lim·it·ed, lim·it·ing, lim·its
To confine or restrict within a boundary or bounds.
To fix definitely; to specify.

[Middle English limite, from Old French, border, from Latin limes, limit-, border, limit.]
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Since we aren't sure what would the most appropriate limits be for OUR customers, they have not yet been specified. They WILL be set in a near term.

Thank you all for your very valuable input. Your points are well taken and all are carefully considered.

Disclaimer: this is not an attack, merely an attempt to explain our position. :cool:

What's the difference between "shared" and "virtual" hosting?

Originally posted by Da Red Monkey
What's the difference between "shared" and "virtual" hosting?

Er, why did you dig up a 8 month old topic to ask that?:eek:

Originally posted by Sain Cai


Er, why did you dig up a 8 month old topic to ask that?:eek:

Lol, i just read the whole thread then saw that reply and looked at the dates (slightly bewildered). Well now that it has been dug up, has it been working out ok lonesail, is he still around? (kinda curious, it's not everyday that you remember to ask this on a "deal that appears too good to be true" 6 months down the road :D.

After reading this thread I thought I would check out the site...Looks like "unmetered" is now a firm 1 GB transfer. ** Call me silly (and I hate unlimited anything) -- but I would consider that a big change in services to go from "unlimited/unmetered" to a measly 1 GB...(it is still a good deal, don't get me wrong)...but it was quite a turnaround. 3 GB OTOH would not be too bad :)

WOW, what a surprise to see this antique thread getting dug up.
:rolleyes:

Anyway, since soneone asked:

We did have to stop offering the packages listed in this thread quite a while ago. Our initial data center has proved beyond horrible, and we had to move. If we stayed, we would have been able to continue to provide such deals, but then we wouldn't be able to provide a reliable service.

Our move to the new datacenter forced us to completely revamp product offering (although admittedly we didn't do it quickly enough and pissed some people off in the process :blush: ), but on the other hand for the past five months we have been able to provide a consistent and reliable service at prices that are still extremely competitive. ;)