I was wandering where I could find the cheapest dedicated server. I am on a budget.

That must mean you drive a Yugo correct? It is the cheapest car. Point I always try to make is that signing up for something that is the cheapest, isn't usually the best.

The cheapest server I know is $99/mo. Support sucks, the company is run by incompetent high schoolers (who don't know how to run a company). Sounds good huh?

Post something meaningful, in order to get meaningful replies please. Minimum server specs, connection, price you are looking for.

These, "What are the best (or cheapest) hosts (or servers)" post drive nuts since there is so little info to go on.

Is $300/mo within your reach? How much $ for set up? Admin your own or managed? Connected to cable modem or a quadruple redundant high speed shared line? :)

Chicken, I second that!

With $99, it would get you 2 roundtrip airfare around the nation and would you think that is a conveince? I think not!

Originally posted by Webhosting Searcher:
I was wandering where I could find the cheapest dedicated server. I am on a budget.

Check www.dialtoneinternet.net (http://www.dialtoneinternet.net) they seem to have good prices, support and offer an interface!

www.rackspace.com (http://www.rackspace.com)
That's what I use

How about www.server4me.com (http://www.server4me.com) ? Their basic dedicated server is only $50/month. They are based around a local ISP that has good reliability (A+ net), but $50?

Owen

Uh hu.
Ok *tries to imagine what Carrier grade facility means*
is it a rented hotel room with rats chewing on my cables and the server directly plugged to the wall with no surge/ups backup @ all?

I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but there comes a limit to what things can be offered at. Sure, when they start selling rackmount cases for the same price as a desktop case then I'll drop my setup price to be more competive and so forth. Even a cheap server costs around 300-400 to build (similar to what their offering @ 49/month) so either their stupid and have a lot of money to burn or they are just plain crazy and like loosing money. I just get bad vibes about that place. There comes a point when the line between cheap and loosing money gets thin for some places but i'd have to say thats just plain loosing money or they lock you in a LONG contract.



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I found a $93 server from www.servint.net (http://www.servint.net) that I found through www.bighosts.com. (http://www.bighosts.com.) They seem pretty good so far, very nice.

If you add the bandwidth charges it tops out well over that. There are several companies offering the "server" for $50-$70/mo plus bandwidth.

A similar plan with dialtone would be about $125 less per month (due to bandwidth charges).

It all depends on the amount of bandwidth you plan on using. If you know for sure that your bandwidth needs will be minimal than by all means, go with a company that has the best price with limited bandwidth included. Now if you don't know what your current or future bandwidth needs will be then you are better to go with a company that offers reasonable bandwidth prices like Dialtoneinternet.com, tera-byte.com, DN, etc...


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[This message has been edited by tabernack (edited 07-09-2000).]

I agree, it depends on the amount of bandwidth you use because if you use a lot its better to go with a company that offers a lot of bandwidth. Another concern is IPs - some companies give you 1 IP and then you have to pay a fortune for the rest - We like our host http://www.atjeu.com because all the packages included unmetered ips and bandwidth. They arent really strict on either and we dont have pay extra - were usuing about 60gigs a month in traffic.

Companies such as Dialtone and Servint.net's (and I believe Rackspace.com) bandwidth charges look good at first glance but be aware that they use the 95% for measuring bandwidth. I posted an example from Dialtone's web site about how this can really kill you in another post... You might want to look at that before you decide to go with a company that offers 95% measuring.

Scott

I have a feeling this is about as thick as one could get, *but* in the interest of learning, what exactly is the 95% percent deal? I don't quite get it. Could someone give a condensed version of what this means?

Rackspace.com doesn't do whatever that 95% thing is. I used to be with them and 50GB of bandwidth is 50GB.


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Hi Chicken,

Measuring bandwidth using the 95th percentile rule means that you are not charged for the 5% highest transfer speeds from that month. So what a company does is they take a reading of the transfer rates from your server every given interval (every company uses different intervals - 5,10,...minutes) and make a graph using this information. So what they do is they chop off the highest 5% on the graph, run a line across the 95% line and use that to decide how much bandwidth you used. The 95th percentile rule is almost always higher than an overall average.

The majority of companies use the 95th percentile rule. I haven't found it to be unfair. The advantage of this method is if your server is DOS attacked, or is misconfigured, and peaks at 800k/second for 20 - 30 hours then those hours will be disregarded at the end of the month. In this situation the 95th percentile rule would most definitely be lower than the overall average.

With dialtone I am not on any fixed speed line, hence my server can peak as high as their network will allow for any period of time and as long as the peaks don't last longer than 36 hours, it will be disregarded at the end of the month.

Hope this is clear. I know it's a little hard to understand.




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For some, the 95% is fair and for others it is not... Personally I don't see it as being fair and would never go with a company who uses this way of measuring bandwidth. Here is a quote taken directly from Dialtone on the 95% vs. average:

[QUTOE]The magenta line, at around 141 kilobytes per second, is their average rate (351 GB/mo), and the orange-brown line is their 95th percentile rate (1013 GB/mo).[/QUOTE]

Would you be happy paying the 95% here?

Scott

The cheapest server I know is £29/mt.

Go to www.powerraq.com (http://www.powerraq.com) and see!

- domi

Don't you have to pay for 3 years service though ? at around £1,000. Also 5gb bandwidth for a dedicated server isnt exactly a lot is it?. I also thought if you purcahsed a dedicated server you could put what you wanted on them ? or is that only if you own the network ?

Originally posted by Voodoo Web:
The cheapest server I know is £29/mt.

Go to www.powerraq.com (http://www.powerraq.com) and see!

- domi

Tabernack, I appreciate the time it took for you to explain that! So would this be correct? Little graph...

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You'd be charged at this line (ish)? that seems insane since a few days of high traffic cold kill you? I dunno... you (or someone else) seemed to be referencing a chart somewhere which I am off to find...

I can't really make out your chart. Email me and I will send you a copy of my current charts for my server so you can see them for yourself. You're right that several days of high usage could kill you. But several days of high usage using any calculation system could kill you. I am not defending the 95th percentile system, but I just don't think that it's been unfair to me "yet".

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[This message has been edited by tabernack (edited 07-25-2000).]

It is oh so true: "what you pay for is what you get"

We ourselves offer a $99.00/month server with all the perks of 24/7 support, and advanced server monitoring, all on a burstable T3.

But what you need to think about is a $99.00 solution going to suffice for what your trying to do, in other words our $99.00 solution features a 500mhz processor 10gig hard drive and 64 megs of ram with linux installed. But is that what you want? Is that enough processor power for you, or enough disk space for you? For large websites the answer is NO!

First figure our what kind of resources you need then find a host who can offer them.

I would love to talk to you more one on one. We have a guerenteed best price policy. So email me at charles@eazyaccess.com or call our sales office at (316) 618-6923. I look forward to talking to you.

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Originally posted by comanche:
I agree, it depends on the amount of bandwidth you use because if you use a lot its better to go with a company that offers a lot of bandwidth. Another concern is IPs - some companies give you 1 IP and then you have to pay a fortune for the rest - We like our host http://www.atjeu.com because all the packages included unmetered ips and bandwidth. They arent really strict on either and we dont have pay extra - were usuing about 60gigs a month in traffic.

Hey comanche/atjeu. It's great that you had such a wonderful experience with "them".

I guess you liked them so much that you put their name in the domain registration for your site.

Whois is a wonderful thing.

Well, i guess we all better stay away from atjeu.com then! Either the owner is here pretending to be their client, or they register clients domains as their own, either way it's lame.

I don't want to rake them over the coals or anything, although this did alarm me. It would be nice if they could come clean, explain or apologize. There does seem to be a genuine customer of their's here (siz) in this forum from Italy. Wonder if she knew about this and what she thinks of the service.

FWIW, Just found out they did explain: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000084.html



[This message has been edited by hostshopping (edited 08-25-2000).]

Yes, we did explain in the above mentioned post. Thanks for posting that "hostshopping". And we sincerely apologize for any misunderstanding anyone had. Like we said in the above link, 90% of our business is dedicated and co-located servers and most of these are other hosting companies running off dedicated servers. We have clients from all over the world including the one that posted here (siz). Although we know which customer that is, for the record, we did not ask them to come here and post anything. That was done completely on their own and we did not even know they knew about this forum. We would love to provide a dedicated client list but that would breach confidentiality with our customers who as mentioned do their own dns so they dont have to seem like they are a reseller for atjeu which they are not. No one cares too much where a single web site is hosted (and whois makes it hard to hide) but a lot care about a hosting company and all their sites. Most hosting companies out there are nothing more then a dedicated server located at a larger company. We used to be that way ourselves, then moved to colocating our own servers, and then moved up to the next level etc...
We bend over backwards for our customers and give 1000% and our customers we think will attest to that. We pride ourselves as a small, inexpensive, individualized hosting company with a high level of service and performance. We have no goals to become another ***** or whatever. There is nothing wrong with huge companies like that but a lot of people like to go where they can get personalized service - they have enough trouble in their life dealing with big companies like qwest and at&t who have 3949 departments to go through to get anything done.

As a side note, some of our clients want us to register their domain in our name so we do. That is not standard practice, but if that is what the client wants, we will do it. This is usually the clients that dont know much about the web and have us do everything for them including billing.

You say people like to hide where they place their boxes?

LOL Well I for one don't, I'm @ the vdi.net NOC and damn proud of it too! :)

One hell of a network , just poped a online game onto our boxes and getting players reporting 70ms or under ping times with in-game ping checks :)

Did I meantion how much I love the network?



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