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nricciar
07-05-2001, 04:14 AM
I am working on UPanel and I would like to get comments and suggestions on it, and also put out a feeler for other people interested in coding for it.

I really got tired of looking around and seeing that all the web admin code out there was very expensive. So my attempt is to free this code to the public under the GNU License as soon as it goes through on sourceforge. The features for this system are virtually unlimited. it has 100% theme support as of now. every system inside it is a plugin so its easy to add or remove anything you want. The fronted is about 50% complete right now. The backend is about 20% complete.

I wont deny that I have other reasons for open sourcing this code. Its not that I don't love helping out people, but im more interested in releasing something better than what's out there that cost money. Oh and the free publicity that I will get :)

I have attached a screen shot of the current theme that I am using and how it all kind of fits together. Yes I borrowed those icons from someone that posted in here, and no I don't plan on using them when I release it I was just trying to use something without having to break out photoshop even though I failed. Although if the person that made that icon is willing to let me use the images I would appreate it.

Domenico
07-05-2001, 06:50 PM
I hope you will succeed and make it way more secure.

mikeknoxv
07-05-2001, 10:32 PM
Please notify me at mike@coldforce.com if/when you release any version of UPanel. I might be interested in creating themes for it.

thewitt
07-06-2001, 09:27 AM
I'm curious; why wouldn't you simply join forces with an control panel project like Webmin?

http://webmin.com/webmin/

-t

mikeknoxv
07-06-2001, 10:55 AM
Webmin is good for basic server administration, but it has no billing manager or client login capabilities.

kunal
07-06-2001, 11:41 AM
why not work somethng out with webcp? I know Felix is looking for all the help he can get on it :)
The url is
http://webcp.can-host.com

thewitt
07-06-2001, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by mikeknoxv
Webmin is good for basic server administration, but it has no billing manager or client login capabilities.

So add them.

It's modular design is meant to be extended.

Why start over again from ground zero when you can simply add missing features to something that already does many things well and is designed to be extended?

It just looks like another case of NIH to me. Sorry.

-t

mikeknoxv
07-06-2001, 11:48 AM
Is WebCP comparable to Ensim or Plesk?

mikeknoxv
07-06-2001, 11:52 AM
thewitt... I would only consider doing that as a last resort. I am in no way familiar with Perl or any of Webmin's design. Honestly, I don't have the time to do it.

When you work all day you don't want to come home to work even more on s*it like that.

kunal
07-06-2001, 11:54 AM
Upanel is GPL right? Is there any place from where i can download the code and see it?

thewitt
07-06-2001, 01:26 PM
It just seems silly to start yet another control panel project, when there are a number of then in the Open Source or otherwise cooperative marketplace today.

It frustrates me when I see people continue to announce starting another new your-favorite-project-here and call it Open Source, when it appears only to be a way to create their own private label project and get other people to help.

The Open Source movement is all about sharing of resources and development energy to make something far greater than any one person can make. It just seems to me that a number of people have forgotten this, and believe Open Source simply means come help me build my next project, resulting in half a dozen half-done projects that all do roughtly the same thing in the same space.

I'd love to have a UPanel, or ZPanel, or YACP that was well coded, secure, free, did everything I want under both BSD and Linux. What I expect however at this time is that no one project will ever get there - but there will be lots of partial Open Source or otherwise free soluctions and only a few complete comercial ones instead.

-t

kunal
07-06-2001, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by thewitt
It just seems silly to start yet another control panel project, when there are a number of then in the Open Source or otherwise cooperative marketplace today.

It frustrates me when I see people continue to announce starting another new your-favorite-project-here and call it Open Source, when it appears only to be a way to create their own private label project and get other people to help.

The Open Source movement is all about sharing of resources and development energy to make something far greater than any one person can make. It just seems to me that a number of people have forgotten this, and believe Open Source simply means come help me build my next project, resulting in half a dozen half-done projects that all do roughtly the same thing in the same space.

I'd love to have a UPanel, or ZPanel, or YACP that was well coded, secure, free, did everything I want under both BSD and Linux. What I expect however at this time is that no one project will ever get there - but there will be lots of partial Open Source or otherwise free soluctions and only a few complete comercial ones instead.

-t

this is very true.. but then again, one cant ask for much when something is free... you cant demand anything... :(

mikeknoxv
07-06-2001, 02:01 PM
Very, very true.
By the way, where can I find UPanel, ZPanel, or YACP?

thewitt
07-06-2001, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by kunal


this is very true.. but then again, one cant ask for much when something is free... you cant demand anything... :(
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to demand anything - just suggesting that the various control panel writers would be better off pooling resources rather than continuing to start from a blank page every time...

-t

thewitt
07-06-2001, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by mikeknoxv
Very, very true.
By the way, where can I find UPanel, ZPanel, or YACP?
Just stick around here - they will all show up sooner or later - and they will all lack that special feature that you are looking for; however they will be just what the author needed for his site ;).

-t

nricciar
07-06-2001, 06:03 PM
I looked at web.cp for awhile, and his code is a compleate mess. no offence to him i know its difficult. I may contact him and see if he is intrested in maybe joining forces though.

mikeknoxv
07-06-2001, 09:14 PM
No need for that special feature, just the basics covered by other Open Source control panels.

Do any of those panels already have a site?

thewitt
07-07-2001, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by mikeknoxv
Do any of those panels already have a site?

Sorry, that was just sarcasm. Those others don't exist yet, but if history has any bearing on the future, they (or others with their own names) will be announced here within the next couple of months.

I think that three or four control panel replacements have been announced here in the last 3 months already - at least two since the CPanel/VDI split.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against new tools in the Open Source space, it's just frustrating to see people announce another new control panel when there are a number of current open development projects on the table already in the space.

-t

mikeknoxv
07-07-2001, 11:01 AM
That's completely understandable.

kanderson
02-06-2004, 10:17 AM
The project "ZPanel" is already taken. I'm the lead programmer of the group. It's available at thezpanel.com and it's also a free hosting control panel.

bigeasy
02-08-2004, 02:20 PM
wow- zpanel, upanel and all

really, pooling your resources, instead of going for individual glory might be a much better idea (sorry- i know its a free product, and we can't have much say in it, but you all could probably come up with a fantastic product with all the ideas combined!)

just my couple of cents

sprintserve
02-08-2004, 02:39 PM
zpanel is for windows and I believe Upanel is for linux?