there cheapest plan is 24.95, but i have seen many hosts on these boards offer 2-3 times the space and bandwidy for as little as 5.99.

what makes verio worth the extra 20 dollars for only 200 mb of disk space and 25 pop accounts [their bronze plan].

anyone have any experiences with them, or a comment on the differences in 2 dollar webhosts vs "luxury" hosts?

Originally posted by kimrari
there cheapest plan is 24.95, but i have seen many hosts on these boards offer 2-3 times the space and bandwidy for as little as 5.99.

what makes verio worth the extra 20 dollars for only 200 mb of disk space and 25 pop accounts [their bronze plan].

anyone have any experiences with them, or a comment on the differences in 2 dollar webhosts vs "luxury" hosts?

Years ago I worked on a site hosted at Verio and while I was there it never went down that I knew of and was always fast. Of course the company was willing to pay way more than I personally will pay for hosting and therefore I have troubles with my personal sites sometimes because I won't pay for a place like Verio.

The server will go down, some email will go missing, the help forums will disappear for many days.

I think for the most part you get what you pay for.

But I haven't had any experience with Verio since '99 or '00

We have many accounts with Verio, as FrankieG says, you get what you pay for.

Yes they're not the cheapest but you do get some solid hosting. One of our main reasons for choosing them was that you get a static IP address for each hosting plan. If your trying to develop a site to a final stage before moving a domain name over it makes things so much easier :D

Greetings:

"There cheapest plan is 24.95, but i have seen many hosts on these boards offer 2-3 times the space and bandwidy for as little as 5.99."

There is an old saying of you get what you pay for.

Verio has been in business since 1996; and they have decent up time.

"What makes verio worth the extra 20 dollars for only 200 mb of disk space and 25 pop accounts [their bronze plan]."

They most likely will be around much longer than your $5.99 plan company.

"Anyone have any experiences with them, or a comment on the differences in 2 dollar webhosts vs "luxury" hosts?"

I don't view Verio, Rackspace.com, and similar companies to be "luxury" hosts.

They are SME (small to mid market companies) priced.

Take care.

EDIT:

$14.95 for 200 megs if prepay for a year.

The starter plan is a special case...

Brian must not give out wrong information... :D


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rmation... :D

I work on a site with verio. I haven't experienced any noticeable downtime. I have had to contact support a couple times, and have gotten responses back in a good amount of time. They seem like a really solid host, but you could probably find hosts with similar track records for less.

Originally posted by I, Brian
No - they're luxury hosts alright.

After all - Verio - $25/month for 8 pages only??

And Rackspace - full corporate look with invasive sales chat - to sell "managed servers" which are not actually "managed", just "dedicated"??

I believe the 8 page plan you are talking about is actually a 7 page plan. It is called the Express Start. It is more than just hosting, it gives the customer the ability to build there own template site without any experience in design.

Although I wouldn't sell it unless the customer insisted, it is a popular plan at Verio.

And as has been mentioned, with Verio you get very little down time and good support. If your site is mission crirical then you need a company you can trust to be up all the time. Most business don't mind paying more for that "luxury". As a matter of fact, Verio just signed on See's Candy. The reason See's went with Verio in there words, "When we were undertaking our selection process, we were impressed by the network performance of the NTT/VERIO backbone, the value and quality of services offered, and the corporate stability of Verio. The competitor we came from could not offer the same level of security and assurances that we feel we now have."

Pretty much sums it up.

Greetings:

"No - they're luxury hosts alright.

After all - Verio - $25/month for 8 pages only??"

Some one cannot read ;-)

http://hosting.verio.com/index.php/web_webcompare.html

Hmmmmm....

Verio is excellent. They are not a here today, gone tommorow host. With them you are paying for the name and financial backing of Verio...

Hey,

On my very first website, I used Verio, and paid like $74 a month for the ecommerce store. There was good communication with the tech dept, and Their control pannel was easy for me to understand.

The only reason I left was because their Catalog and shopping cart were very unatractive, and too limited. I could not personalize the look and feel. I remember I hated it! ugh.

But, I did like everything else. The price was a bit too high though.

Look at what is offered!!
Volano Chat
Urchin
These are not cheap programs......

Bottom Line...They are solid...

Gosh, after searching their site again, I am kinda tempted.

Hmmm.

That "Ask our web wizard" thing is a great idea if you can't decide which package to go with.

The most expensive I could come out with was $150/mo with $100 setup. :) Good fun to play with...

EDIT:

$14.95 for 200 megs if prepay for a year.

The starter plan is a special case...

Brian must not give out wrong information... :D


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So...their minimum advertised per monthly plan is $24.95 - PLUS $50 set-up fee - for 7 pages or 10 megs diskspace.

Maybe I don't understand something here. Verio's Bronze Plan is $24.95/month or $14.95/month if you pre-pay a year. For that you get 250 MB of disk space , not 10. I'm not the most technical guy in the world but I believe you can a lot more than 7 pages on that much disk space. Correct me if I am wrong.:)

The 7 page plan you are talking about is a "build your own template site in about 30 minutes." If a person has zero design experience and no budget to have a site designed for them then this is a way for them to go. It is a very basic site, but good enough for some people. It sell for $24.95/month. But they pay for the convinience of being able to design their own site.

For the same money they can get a Bronze Plan. Much more for the money as far as disk space and transfer.

Some people shop at Walmart, others shop at Nordstroms. Some drive Mercedes and some drive Kias. Some people host at Verio, some host at cheaper companies. There are customers for every niche. To most companies $350/year is chump change. Those are the business that go with Verio. They would rather have the security that spending a few more dollars brings.

By hosting with a transit provider you are putting "all of your eggs into one basket".

This is never a good idea - especially in this volatile market.

Yes, Verio is good - NOW. This wasn't always the case. Verio has gone through periods of extreme unstability.

The strength of their current position is based entirely on the purchase by NTT (Nippon Telephone and Telegraph of Japan). It wasn't a take-over. It was a rescue! If you research Verio's creation and history you'll understand what I mean.

I'd sleep better at night knowing my site was hosted at a reputable company that has connections to multiple transit providers, including Verio.

dapon

Maybe I don't understand something here. Verio's Bronze Plan is $24.95/month or $14.95/month if you pre-pay a year. For that you get 250 MB of disk space , not 10. I'm not the most technical guy in the world but I believe you can a lot more than 7 pages on that much disk space. Correct me if I am wrong.

The 7 page plan you are talking about is a "build your own template site in about 30 minutes." If a person has zero design experience and no budget to have a site designed for them then this is a way for them to go. It is a very basic site, but good enough for some people. It sell for $24.95/month. But they pay for the convinience of being able to design their own site.

For the same money they can get a Bronze Plan. Much more for the money as far as disk space and transfer.


My goodness - you're absolutely right - I really *didn't* read the website properly.

Whenever I look at a hosting site I always look at the cheapest option first. In this case, the starter. So my impression of the pricing was based entirely on the starter price.

Perhaps I should e-mail Verio and suggest a slightly better presentation of information, so that the starter plan stands out along and separately, rather than the apparent lower end of scaleability in comparison to the other plans. Just for the benefit of stupid people like myself.

Everything I posted in this thread is wrong - this is the second argument I've lost today! Lucky I'm not a sore loser. :)

Originally posted by I, Brian
dapon



My goodness - you're absolutely right - I really *didn't* read the website properly.

Whenever I look at a hosting site I always look at the cheapest option first. In this case, the starter. So my impression of the pricing was based entirely on the starter price.

Perhaps I should e-mail Verio and suggest a slightly better presentation of information, so that the starter plan stands out along and separately, rather than the apparent lower end of scaleability in comparison to the other plans. Just for the benefit of stupid people like myself.

Everything I posted in this thread is wrong - this is the second argument I've lost today! Lucky I'm not a sore loser. :)

Heck, I wouldn't even consider it a loss I, Brian. Your right , the site could be easy to interpret wrong.

As far as the 7 page plan is concerned, I never did like it. There were other ways of getting your site up besides being locked in to a 7 page site which allowed only 1 picture/page. And limited email also. In my time at Verio I sold very few of them. Always tried to sell at least the Bronze plan. But you would be surprised at the number of Express Start plans they sell. Not stupid people, usually AOL customers though. And that's not a put down of AOL customers, it's just a fact.

Verio completely sucks...

I had them for 1 yr, and 32 times our server had down time. we switched servers and had 12 down times.

when you count on your site to make money, this is one of the worst.

Originally posted by help4all
Verio completely sucks...

I had them for 1 yr, and 32 times our server had down time. we switched servers and had 12 down times.

when you count on your site to make money, this is one of the worst.

Wow, what a bad experience. Totally unheard of for them as a company though. Hope you found someone that fits your needs.

for me, customer service and technical support is very important.

i think thats what did it for me. 24/7 tech support. although, there really shouldnt be many issues in a shared hosting environment.

Originally posted by I, Brian
EDIT:

$14.95 for 200 megs if prepay for a year.

The starter plan is a special case...

Brian must not give out wrong information... :D


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rmation... :D

As of the past few months at least, that $14.95 plan is for a daunting 5 (yes FIVE) year commitment! Ridiculous.

I can tell you of my experience with Verio. I have many accounts with another host that I'm very happy with. But this one was forced upon us (nepotism) without the consent of those working on the site... but thats another story.

Anyway, the cheapest plan (Bronze) is $14.95 per month plus a $50 startup fee, plus a mind boggling commitment of 5 years.

The Bronze plan limits you considerably, and you don't find this out until you sign.

1) Shell access - Not provided on this plan.
2) MySQL access is provided through a cheesy interface. Only one DB provided with one user (your login).
3) Control panel or anything to do with "looking up" stuff on their site is excruciatingly slow.
4) No user FTP accounts.
5) Documentation is completely scattered all over the place and extremely hard and often impossible to find (here's a test... see if you can find out how to add a parked domain to your account. Or how about creating a sub-domain?).
6) Support hit and miss. I've put in 7 requests since starting 2 months ago, and I've gotten 4 replies.
7) I've had so many issues with them where the info was either not stated or very hard to find like parking additional domains that are NOT registered through them, setting up cron jobs without a shell, subdomains. I could go on and on.

Personally I think unless you've got extremely simple needs, and don't mind shelling out additional money, then you'd be better off looking elsewhere.

I can not vouch for their uptime as it's taken me 2 months to get everything ready to move our sites over. I will say that I have yet to be unable to FTP into the account for whatever that's worth.

The Bronze plan limits you considerably, and you don't find this out until you sign.

That's what pre-sales questions are for.
How could you not know about these things before you sign up.

Originally posted by help4all
Verio completely sucks...

I had them for 1 yr, and 32 times our server had down time. we switched servers and had 12 down times.

when you count on your site to make money, this is one of the worst.


When did you have your account with them.
This seems highly unlikely if it was in the last year.

Originally posted by blue27
That's what pre-sales questions are for.
How could you not know about these things before you sign up.

You know what? You're 100% correct. We should have asked all of these questions. We simply screwed up not asking about their shortcomings. In our case it wouldn't have made any difference because like I said the decision maker had a close relative working there and we were going to use them no matter what.

Originally posted by salewit
You know what? You're 100% correct. We should have asked all of these questions. We simply screwed up not asking about their shortcomings. In our case it wouldn't have made any difference because like I said the decision maker had a close relative working there and we were going to use them no matter what.


Asking questions is always good. If there is a feature not listed on a hosts plan there is a pretty good chance it isn't there. They never list the features they don't have.