I have a few questions about Datacenters more along the business side then the hosting side. If anyone can answer my questions it will be appreciated.

1. How much do Datacenter's make on a monthly basis?
2. How many people do Datacenter's employ?
3. Would a Datacenter have to be managed 24/7/365?
4. Can anyone refer me to any information on Datacenter information, 101, anything so I can understand how to use it.
5. I need links on information on how to create a business legally.
6. Can you name some Datacenter's online?
7. If I was to make servers or my TECH SUPPORT STAFF. How would I find a supplier for Computer Hardware.
8. Are there any kids under 18 who currently have a hosting website of any sort?
9. Is a Datacenter Business a Business with potential and company growth?
10. How many arces are Datacenters.
11. On average lets say RackShack.com How much do they make a day? GROSS
12. Would it be alright to have 3 different categories/things in one business?

Such as:

webdesign, internet/gaming cafe, webhosting, game server hosting, computer repair, personal built computers.

Thanks in advance, for everyone's replys.

1. How much do Datacenter's make on a monthly basis?

Depends on the number of servers, their cost, number of customers and business model.

2. How many people do Datacenter's employ?

Once again, it depends on the size.

3. Would a Datacenter have to be managed 24/7/365?

It had better be. A datacenter has a number of servers in it and things such as connectivity, room temperature and other problems need to be monitored constantly.

4. Can anyone refer me to any information on Datacenter information, 101, anything so I can understand how to use it.

http://www.hostingtech.com/dc/01_07_build.html

5. I need links on information on how to create a business legally.

http://sba.gov

6. Can you name some Datacenter's online?

RackShack, RackSpace, NAC.net and a slew of others.

7. If I was to make servers or my TECH SUPPORT STAFF. How would I find a supplier for Computer Hardware.

Do a search on google for wholesalers.

8. Are there any kids under 18 who currently have a hosting website of any sort?

Yes.

9. Is a Datacenter Business a Business with potential and company growth?

Might want to clarify this one.

10. How many arces are Datacenters.

Depends on how big it was built.

11. On average lets say RackShack.com How much do they make a day? GROSS

Until they're a company that is traded on the open market, you're not going to find that info.

12. Would it be alright to have 3 different categories/things in one business?

If you can handle the divertsity, then yes.

Most of your questions are like "How big is a house and how many people can fit in each room?"

There are so many variables. We have our own datacenter...so does Rackshack. However, we are probably on complete opposite ends of the spectrum, as far as most of your questions go.

--Tina

How much did it cost you to get your DataCenter?

Let's base these companys on RackShack.net

1. How much do Datacenter's make on a monthly basis?
2. How many people do Datacenter's employ?
9. Can a Datacenter Business make a lot of money? What's the highest they can make?
13. How big is RackShack's Datacenter?
14. Who currently owns Datacenters?

TO AffordableHost:
You said you have your own DataCenter. How much $ did you need "Capital" to afford your own DataCenter and how much do you pay monthly on it. I plan on creating a DataCenter.

Not to bust your bubble... but..

I highly doubt you have or can acquire even 1/50 of the money to do such a crazy thing. There is something that troubles me more, however.. WHY??

Why would you want to build your own datacenter? You nuts? Not content to hash out a deal with a reputable colo company? Have money to throw away?


PS if the latter is the case, toss some my way :)

I bet I could.

Originally posted by d2dexter
I bet I could.

Many of the datacenters you have been mentioning are multi-million dollar facilities... and cost hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to operate.

Of course there are other high quality datacenters that were made for less than that... but if you are looking into building a high class datacenter still be ready to front an extremely large bill, and one that will keep recurring each month with operation costs.

easy 5 mil startup. i bet.

for 5 Million, What could I get for a datacenter?

Lots of cool stuff. :D

--Tina

I believe RackShack's datacenter required $40 million per year just to keep running. And I'm not sure how old that figure is...

That said, your best bet is to find a good consultant. If you can do that, you'll get the best bang for the buck and the most accurate quote and specifications for your needs and price range. :)

Originally posted by d2dexter
TO AffordableHost:
You said you have your own DataCenter. How much $ did you need "Capital" to afford your own DataCenter and how much do you pay monthly on it. I plan on creating a DataCenter.

Let me make some points here:

(A) If you don't know the answers to your questions you won't build a datacenter.
(B) If you don't already have a fairly large company, you won't own a datacenter.
(C) No privately held company is going to give you any insight as to the cost of their business or income from it.
(D) The Verio datacenter that was closed about 2 years back (The VenturesOnline was in) was around $35 million as I understand.

Now, dpoland mentioned 5 million for a DC. That would leave very little room for growth I'd imagine. The majority of companies on these boards don't actually "own" a datacenter, they more then likely lease it or lease a certain amount of floors. I do believe RackShack owns there own, but I'd be willing to bet my car that RS had a little more startup money then you probably do. Not because I know you, mostly because your in a public forum asking questions, that if you were truely in the financial position to build a DC, you'd be asking a contractor.

Well said.

There was a great thread (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=124987) a while back, when Deb went into specifics about their DC. Great reading there. :)

Of course, there's no way to define what a datacenter exactly is. Could be what you've setup in your basement, or maybe you've leased office space and have your equipment there, or maybe you own the building etc. How long is a piece of string?

Me personally, I'd rather have 500 servers spread accross 10 different datacenters, than having them all in the 1 physical location.

I'd rather have ours all under our own roof. I want to know exactly what's going on in our server room and who's minding the store while I'm not there.

I'm not saying one is better than the other...because each has its pros and cons. My personal opinion, and experience, is that having servers in other people's datacenters has always been a frustrating experience.

--Tina

Hey wait, I DO have a datacenter...

I have a HP 6648C with Linux installed sitting next to my machine (KVM switch coming soon ;)), I have a router, and a cable connection with a 128k upstream. Plus the room is air conditioned (nice Windows air conditioner). Raised flooring (it's on the 2nd floor), advanced fire system (fire extinguisher)... be back later guys I'm gunna start me a hosting company. ;).

Many of these questions fit under the universal answer:
If you don't already know the answer or know who to hire to get the answer, then you prolly don't need to know :D

Not trying to be rude, but if you really needed to find out how much a datacenter is gonna cost, you shouldn't ask on a forum, you would want to hire a design firm, network engineers, strutural engineers, etc...

Originally posted by comphosting
Let me make some points here:

(A) If you don't know the answers to your questions you won't build a datacenter.
(B) If you don't already have a fairly large company, you won't own a datacenter.
(C) No privately held company is going to give you any insight as to the cost of their business or income from it.
(D) The Verio datacenter that was closed about 2 years back (The VenturesOnline was in) was around $35 million as I understand.

Now, dpoland mentioned 5 million for a DC. That would leave very little room for growth I'd imagine. The majority of companies on these boards don't actually "own" a datacenter, they more then likely lease it or lease a certain amount of floors. I do believe RackShack owns there own, but I'd be willing to bet my car that RS had a little more startup money then you probably do. Not because I know you, mostly because your in a public forum asking questions, that if you were truely in the financial position to build a DC, you'd be asking a contractor.

well im saying 5million and you would be renting/leasing a floor or floors of a building. albeit your right it wouldnt.

Originally posted by d2dexter
I bet I could.

How is a 15 year old kid going to get ahold of 5-10 million dollars to pay off the construction of the datacenter?

investors, i would think i would beable to if not. i would just make the company smaller.

Originally posted by d2dexter
investors, i would think i would beable to if not. i would just make the company smaller.

That's even funnier... due to the fact that you didn't disagree with the "15 year old kid" statement I'll assume it's true. No you won't get any investors, unless your a teenager with a PhD, a 40 page business plan and a top management team. Get a reseller account :).

have a reseller account. and who said i was going to do business in my name

im 16 btw not much of a difference tho ;)

Well... He has a dream, to have his own DC one day. Not bad for a 16yr old. At least he is starting off young. All i can say is DO YOUR THING!!! If you want to have your own DC make a set goal for yourself and once you are done with that goal. Make another one. Everyone has provided some insite on how much, how big, and where to get information from for getting one started. GOOD LUCK! :)

1. How much do Datacenter's make on a monthly basis?
2. How many people do Datacenter's employ?
3. Would a Datacenter have to be managed 24/7/365?
4. Can anyone refer me to any information on Datacenter information, 101, anything so I can understand how to use it.
5. I need links on information on how to create a business legally.
6. Can you name some Datacenter's online?
7. If I was to make servers or my TECH SUPPORT STAFF. How would I find a supplier for Computer Hardware.
8. Are there any kids under 18 who currently have a hosting website of any sort?
9. Is a Datacenter Business a Business with potential and company growth?
10. How many arces are Datacenters.
11. On average lets say RackShack.com How much do they make a day? GROSS
12. Would it be alright to have 3 different categories/things in one business?

Sorry to burst your bubble but if you dont know these things before you start there is no point of starting at all.

Data Centers are built for large scale operations... you would also need to be able to populate your racks / shelves pretty quickly other wise you will find your self running at a HUGE loss even if you did come up with the money to go ahead with it.

You would be better sticking with your reseller hosting and working your way up :)

I dont know about where you are from but normally at the age of 16 you wont be able to get any credit with your suppliers.

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Ben Robinson
Managing Director
Data Solutions Limited

Originally posted by dsolutions
I dont know about where you are from but normally at the age of 16 you wont be able to get any credit with your suppliers.

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Ben Robinson
Managing Director
Data Solutions Limited

not only getting any credit, they won't let you open a account with them.

i tried when i was about his age. (this is back when Dell havn't own the whole pc market yet) they need a reseller cert. and your company finicial history, statement from bank...etc. companies like Ingrim Micro, MaLab, D&H won't even look at your application for an account unless your company have been in the business for a while

This thread is interesting.

I'm also asking almost the same thing on this thread: http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=473897

Please check it out. I want to have my own datacenter also but start on a minimal budget.

I already have the building now I want a DC :)

Any feeds would be helpful.

Marvin

the building, servers and internet connectivity for a datacentre is the cheap bit...

the expensive bit is power and cooling infrastructure, staff etc

d2dexter - why on earth would anybody want to invest in you to build your datacentre? if you've got to ask all these questions then they your investor may as well be asking us directly. my advice would be to spend the next couple of years in college and get a reseller account with a reputable host

once you've out-grown that, look at colo'ing some machines somewhere :)

Greetings:

FYI.

At the year 2000, Web Hosting Exposition run by Web Hosting Magazine, Sean Brophy from NTT/Verio shared it cost NTT/Verio $600 per square foot to build the new Dulles, Virgina facility (not including equipment or land); and it costs $300 per square foot to maintain the facility.

Thank you.

rough figures on new UK DC apx 40,000 sq ft
4.2m build/setup
600k/month to run

room/power/cooling for 1200 racks