anyone here plays the guitar?

:)

nope, I play the Violin! :D
smaller and only four strings hehe

Fender telecaster :)

Yes, I've played guitar for almost 20 years. I used to play in clubs with various bands.

hey fatboy, how about free lessons for ad space? :)

Originally posted by logus
hey fatboy, how about free lessons for ad space? :)


i hope you don't meant over the net! :eek:

Originally posted by logus
anyone here plays the guitar?

:)

I play guitar. I play bass and drums as well. What style(s) of music do you play? What equipment? :-)

Well, I'm just starting classic guitar....

not tabs and stuff like that but theory as well.

already had my first concert - played Pink Floyd Wish you were here


:)

Cool. I just picked up a Takamine classical guitar the other day. I haven't had one for a long time. Of course, I bought an Ovation acoustic as well, since I had to have a steel string acoustic, as I've been without that for a long time as well. Then, I decided to throw in a Tama drum set... Needless to say, I need to stay out of music stores as much as possible, or I'll go in for a set of strings and come out broke. :-)

Are you learning from a teacher, or from books, or both? I might be able to suggest some good books for starting guitar. The reason why I got those guitars and drums from the music store, was because my wife wanted to learn how to play, and doesn't like the sound of electric guitar, so we went in to get her an acoustic but couldn't decide on a steel or nylon string, so we just got both -- and then I went overboard... however, we got some pretty good (from my playing experience over the many years) books that teach all sorts of styles, chords, scales, theory, etc. Everything really, they seem to be pretty good books. Then again, maybe I just didn't understand your post fully, have you played (or been playing) before and are just deciding to learn classical guitar and theory, instead of just playing songs from tablature?

no, with a teacher, need to get the style right first, I meanhow to play right... but it is moving extremely slow, and the teacher is more into classic stuff, which is OK but not ALL THE TIME... the reason I started with it is to move to Electric guitar... I have an old white beautiful electric guitar, I've been told it costs $8,000 and that they don't make this kind anymore.. but what a shame.. to have something that good and not to use it.

Don't know... I learned Wish you were here, sang and played it in a concert, it went really well.. but every time I try to pick a song, for a classic guitar, I get the 14 and 15th frets (in the tab files), which are a bit difficult to play when you have a classic :) you know what I mean, I'l be in Canada soon, and I know a music store owner - its a big one, 3 floors :)

What songs should I focus on?

I like Aerosmith, Guns n roses, ACDC, hehe, Beatles, etc etc. you know mostly 70s-80s rock...


any ideas for a newbie with a classic guitar like myself?

Right now I'm learning Patience - by GN'R.

I believe it is a federal offense to play Guns n' Roses songs on classic $8,000 guitars in the State of California. Laws do vary from state to state however, and you might get off with just a warning. To be safe, DO NOT play the Guns n Roses songs in front of a live audience, as there might be a officer of the law (the man), sitting undercover hoping to catch unknowing beginning guitarists.

That said, I've owed 3 guitars, never really learned how to play them. Still have one (people leave them at my house and move to other states, I've never actually bought one). I do play drums, but that wouldn't really be of any value as it wasn't the question. Really I just had to write someting here to justify my sarcastic response above. Heed the warning though. :D

Well, I'm not from the US, and here it is extremely legal to play Guns n Roses.


Come on.. November Rain, Mr Browstone?? how can I learn to play a guitar and forget these great songs..


BTW is there a hosting song or something? :)

I have a Jackson with a Peavey 5150 :)
I love VH!

Originally posted by Chicken
I believe it is a federal offense to play Guns n' Roses songs on classic $8,000 guitars in the State of California. Laws do vary from state to state however, and you might get off with just a warning. To be safe, DO NOT play the Guns n Roses songs in front of a live audience, as there might be a officer of the law (the man), sitting undercover hoping to catch unknowing beginning guitarists.

hmmm...

:confused: i hope i don't get scolded for my negligence... but why's it illegal??

I'll tell you what should be illigal... guys like Paco de Lucia who think that everyone are as good as them...

I almost broke by fingers when I tried some of his flamenco tricks ;)

I've never played much classical stuff. I am more of the blues/classic rock style.

My main setup includes 1968 Gibson Les Paul Standard played through a Full Marshall Stack or a 1965 Fender Stratocaster through a Crate Blue Voodoo half-stack.

Originally posted by alpha


hmmm...

:confused: i hope i don't get scolded for my negligence... but why's it illegal??

(Sees his attempt at sarcasm wasn't nearly sarcastic enough :D)

It ain't illegal John, though we're all pulling for legislation here in the states...

I not only play, I build. Anyone with an interest in building instruments should visit my main website, first link in my sig. We're a community of builders of all types of instruments.

Build your own! There's not much that's as satisfying as playing music on an axe you made yourself!! If you're just thinking about it (and I hope you are now that I've planted a small seed), see our New Builders' miniFAQ (http://www.mimf.com/minifaq.htm).

Deb, do you have any known instrument makers I might recognize? What kind of guitars (or instruments) to you build? A while ago, I was going to pay Wayne Charvel (Of Charvel and later Jackson/Charvel fame -- now WRC Guitars) to build me a custom one, but I never really wanted to spend the money. I should tell him about your forum, maybe he could participate -- that would be beneficial to any electric (and maybe acoustic) guitar luther's out there, I think. I'm not sure I'd want to dare try and build a guitar, but it does sound interesting. I'd be more likely to build myself a nice tube amp.

Speaking of, does anyone have any nice tube amps for sale? A Mesa Boogie, Marshall, VHT (I wish!) or the like? :-) I bought an old '74 Marshall JMP MK II 50 watt amp head a long time ago, all clean, beautiful sound, 3 tubes. I sent it to Todd Langner (if anyone remembers him, he's doing sound/music production for the big TV shows now) and had him modify it. Todd designed the original ADA pre-amp, for those that remember how great that thing was for a long time, being the first pre-amp to have both solid state and tubes for the drive. Anyway, he added another channel, a couple mroe tubes and modified it to sound great -- but no more clean -- although it was a great bases for the distortion to be added to it.

Every chord was clean and rang out with perfect sustain. Lot's of bite, but not too much, just perfect. A "mishap" happened and I had my output transformer blow -- that was the end of that. I sent it to Todd, whom couldn't get an old transformer for me and I had one hand wound. The amp never sounded the same, so I sold the head and the Marshall 4x12 cab I had and lost interest in trying to have the best sound I could get. Really disappointing. However, I do have access to the amp I sold years ago and if I can find another head like the one I had, it would be a good study guide to modifying one myself. However, I might just build one. Speaking of, there's (to my joy, I found) lot's of amplifier blue prints/schematics online, if you know where to look. :-) So, uh, anyone have a 72 to 75 Marshall JMP MK II 50 watt tube amp head for sale? :-)

Deb, I'll definitely check out your forum. Thanks.

Originally posted by Jedito
I have a Jackson with a Peavey 5150 :)
I love VH!

That amp is meaty and punchy. I like the cab that comes with it too. I think the 5150 amp is one of the better non-modified amps I've ever heard, especially in the price range. They stopped selling those a long time ago though, didn't they? I have a Jackson/Charvel myself, (w/ a Floyd Rose, a Seymour Duncan JB Trembucker at the bridge (stopped making those a long time ago) and a JB Jr. stacked single coil sized in the neck (which can be split, of course))... definitely my favorite guitar.

Originally posted by logus
no, with a teacher, need to get the style right first, I meanhow to play right... but it is moving extremely slow, and the teacher is more into classic stuff, which is OK but not ALL THE TIME... the reason I started with it is to move to Electric guitar... I have an old white beautiful electric guitar, I've been told it costs $8,000 and that they don't make this kind anymore.. but what a shame.. to have something that good and not to use it.

Don't know... I learned Wish you were here, sang and played it in a concert, it went really well.. but every time I try to pick a song, for a classic guitar, I get the 14 and 15th frets (in the tab files), which are a bit difficult to play when you have a classic :) you know what I mean, I'l be in Canada soon, and I know a music store owner - its a big one, 3 floors :)

What songs should I focus on?

I like Aerosmith, Guns n roses, ACDC, hehe, Beatles, etc etc. you know mostly 70s-80s rock...


any ideas for a newbie with a classic guitar like myself?

Right now I'm learning Patience - by GN'R.

$8,000 guitar? What in the world is that? Some collector Fender, or Gibson or? I think Aerosmith is a great band (one of my favorites), but I'm not sure how their song's sound with just guitar alone, so I've never really played many of their songs because of that. I never really liked G 'n R, but I did play some songs of their's when their first album came out. The Beatles are definitely good and fun to play, you can't lose there. I too am probably a bigger fan of the 70's and 80's music.

I like everything from Black Sabbath, Rainbow, the Eagles, Zeppelin and whatnot, to a lot of mid-80's bands -- but none of that glam crap like Bon Jovi, Poison or Whitesnake (although they weren't as bad as the others). I used to play a _lot_ of Ozzy. I would put on Tribute and go through the entire album song by song, note for note (for the most part). I was a huge Randy Rhoads fan. Speaking of, Dee is a good song to learn. :-) It's difficult to say what sounds you should focus on, since it's really a personal choice, as well as most people are more skilled at playing different styles of music, even if in the same genre. I mean, you might really like the idea of playing songs from one of your favorite bands, but it might not be where your playing talent lies.

Few people can play every style of music well, even if they like the babd. Technically, you can get close or play all the song, but it might be weak with just guitar. You might consider on getting (if you get into it enough) a 4 track recorder or hook something up to your computer. Also, get something that you can program for bass and drums and maybe a cheap mic too... Or, you could just get a bass guitar and maybe a drum machine. This way, you can play songs by any of the bands you like and not have anything be lacking -- and it'll help with your composition, timing and learning a lot of other aspects of playing -- since you'll likely not want to be playing songs other people wrote for much longer. Anyway, it's all fun, so whatever you wish to play, whatever you're interested in, go for it. Focus on what you prefer.

I would suggest that you get used to all the chords, different chord voicings and changing to complex one's (that you'll use), as well as dexterity excercises (that you can formulate yourself). Just get your fingers used to different patterns and combinations and whatnot. make sure it's clean and on time. Learn the different scales, of course and all that good stuff. Also, I mean this for both hands, not just your fret hand. Try lots of pinger picking excercises. I use all 5 of my fingers on my pick hand, whereas a lot of people use maybe 3 at most when playing classical pieces. Try and be inventive, just have fun and remember there are no rules. You'll develop as you go along and probably know what direction you want to go -- just be sure to master any of the weaknesses you find in your playing... don't just ignore them because you know what's wrong, that you can fix the problem later or whatever. It's not really all that complex, even if the patterns and fingerings can seem that way. It's all based on a few principals.

Some good starter, intermediate and advanced user books (everyone can use them) are:

The Complete Guitarist by Richard Chapman. Published by DK (http://www.dk.com) ISBN 1-56458-711-8.

The Ultimate Scale Bible by Mark Dziuba. Published by Alfred Publishing Co., Inc. (http://www.alfredpub.com) ISBN 1-929395-09-4.

7,488 Guitar Chords by Jay Arnold. Published by Hansen House (unknown web site, if any). ISBN (in the second page of the book) 0 8494 0450 9.

Following that, lot's of practice and fun. Other books, there's ton's of them (literally). Any song book by a band you really like that has some good guitar sections in it, would be a good idea. For example, lot's of books by Cherry Lane publishing are good, especially the one's transcribed by Wolf Marshall (I think he has a web site, likely called wolfmarshall.com, but I'm not sure... -- oh, wait... http://www.wolfmarshall.com/ , yes that's it.). Anyway, have fun. :-)

Thanks for the info, I'll keep that in mind, the $8,000 guitar actually is for collectors - it is something like.. hmm, a Harley Davidson (did I spell that right?) which is the best in the series, but they don't make them anymore...


But since I'm not a great guitarist yet, the fact that it is expensive doesn't help much, now I just don't know how to play :)

I'll keep learning and we'll see how it goes...


Cheers!

Hmmm, after posting that link and looking to see if Wolf had a site after his name to verify it... I thought something looked familiar to me. I had a guitar site (which was popular at the time) back in '95 and '96, etc. I think I took it down in '97 or so, as it was just for fun and was also on Geocities at the beginning, since it was never meant to be a big site originally. Anyway, I noticed that the background at http://www.wolfmarshall.com/ looked familiar. I went ahead and put up a partial part of my old site's main page... even though the background on my old site looked a lot better and it's probably a common idea to do this (which I saw no other's at the time), it looks to me, like the designer of Wolf Marshall's website simply took my background and did a really bad job of fading it dark. The same design, but darker and cropped down. The width of the image is even very close, if not the same, other than the cropping job. What do you all think?

My old site design format: http://guitar.chatbase.com/
Wolf Marshall's website: http://www.wolfmarshall.com/

I put both these images on one page, one right under the other, and I might be wrong about my theory, but I see this as a little too close to just assume it was a happy coincidence. Not that I care, not now.. and I knew people were taking my background back then, but does this look like someone was a little lazy here, or what? :-)

Well, looking at it closer, although a crop on the image on each side and darkening the image might have resulted in that, I think it's just a bit off on some parts to really think it was because of that. I just thought it was funny (and I do mean humorous) to see, and that it originally looked that way... Well, since his background sucks, maybe I should donate mine to him. :-)

Playing for about 10 years.

I play an Ibanez - mainly cos I worship Joe Satriani and Steve Vai - so they are my main influences. Plus I hate Fenders/Les Pauls cos they are too common and people often say "yeah, I love them" just cos everyone does.

--James

Can anyone email me


Tears in Heaven (by Eric Clapton)
Patience (By Guns n Roses)

Music sheets?


:)


thanks

Originally posted by Tim_Greer
Deb, do you have any known instrument makers I might recognize? What kind of guitars (or instruments) to you build? A while ago, I was going to pay Wayne Charvel (Of Charvel and later Jackson/Charvel fame -- now WRC Guitars) to build me a custom one, but I never really wanted to spend the money. I should tell him about your forum, maybe he could participate -- that would be beneficial to any electric (and maybe acoustic) guitar luther's out there, I think. I'm not sure I'd want to dare try and build a guitar, but it does sound interesting. I'd be more likely to build myself a nice tube amp.
We have several well-known builders who participate, but I feel uncomfortable "dropping names" here, so to speak. I'm entirely in the acoustic camp myself, and spent 14 years as a full-time or part-time pro building hammered dulcimers, now "retired" and moved on to another profession. I've also built some guitars and banjos. If I ever have the time I'd like to get back into building acoustic fretted instruments for fun. I have four little acoustic travel-guitars started that I haven't had a chance to do much with beyond mill the lumber, glue up the top and back plates, and dream. <g>

I've been playing the guitar (acoustic and electric) for over 10 years now.

I own a 1969 Les Paul, an Ovation electric acoustic and and a Fender acoustic.

I use to play in a popular local band before I moved to Florida a couple weeks ago. I sang lead (co-lead actually) and played the guitar and sang backup.

Anyone know someone in the Tampa, Florida area that's looking for a female singer and guitarist? :D

I just started learning a few weeks ago. I received a Fender Strat a few years ago, and I've just recently taken an interest in playing it.

For those who are interested in playing Pink Floyd songs, I recommend this web site:

http://node-02.advancenet.net/~bterwill/

They have every Pink Floyd song recorded, and almost every song they ever played live. They've got both guitar and bass tabs, and they have "Chord Pro" for newbies like me. It simply tells you the chord to play, as I cannot read tabs yet. E.g. for Wish You Were Here:

[G] [C]So, so ya think you can [D]tell,
Heaven from [Am]hell,
Blue skies from [G]pain,
Can you tell a green [D]field
From a cold steel [C]rail,
A smile from a [Am]veil?
Do ya think ya can [G]tell?

heh, I sang and played it in a concert, last week :) (wish you were here)..

very cool stuff

I know a lot of people who are getting quite big in the music business.

I now co-run www.satch-list.com - the unoffical Joe Satriani mailing list, and one guy from there got sponsored by Ibanez, another took part in JemFest 2001. Another one got a record deal with a French record label etc

--James

hehe, yea that's one of the good things about running a hosting company -you get strong connection in the higher windows :)

I know what you mean, Lonny. I run a design firm for musicians and film makers and I've got to meet some very interesting people.

Tariq

cinesites.com

never mind :rolleyes:

oh give me a break..

Okay ;)
Anything for somebody that enjoys Pink Floyd so much :agree:
:D

I played Pink Floyd a few days ago.. it was horrible, wish yoiu were here is a great songt but I managed somehow to screw things up.. looks like I won't be playing there again :)

Yes, been playing guitar for over 20 years. Big Ibanez fan here, but also give credit where credit is due to the axes that also have tone of their own (fender, lp, etc). Also a big line6 fan (upgraded from a mesa fan).

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ROCK ON!

Beau

Originally posted by FindSP.Com
I played Pink Floyd a few days ago.. it was horrible, wish yoiu were here is a great songt but I managed somehow to screw things up.. looks like I won't be playing there again :) Very dependant on the right hand thing.
With Pink Floyd you can mess up with your left, but if your technique is good with your right people will think you know what you're doing;)

Originally posted by WildWayz
I play an Ibanez - mainly cos I worship Joe Satriani and Steve Vai - so they are my main influences. Plus I hate Fenders/Les Pauls cos they are too common and people often say "yeah, I love them" just cos everyone does.

--James

James,

I agree that there probably alot of younger players out there who would automatically respond to an LP or strat comment with "I love em" simply because they've heard their elders wax poetic about them for years. I too am an Ibanez man (js series, 442r, 540). But the js and vai guitars are built for a specific KIND of guitar playing - SHREDDING! The necks are slim, the action is fast, and they are machines specifically built for speed, NOT for tone. Granted, out of the amount of wood that these guitars use, they do get an incredible amount of tone. But when it comes to pure power chord depth, and note sustain, and warm tones, Ibanez cannot physically touch a Les Paul. Why? Not enough wood! It's a sensitive issue I know. An Ibanez player who has played Ibanez alot, would actually feel rather uncomfortable playing a Les Paul in the first place. It's much heavier, the neck is thicker, they generally do not have compound radiused fingerboards as ibanez typically do, etc, etc. So an Ibanez player who sat down with a Les Paul that he/she wasn't used to, would likely say "I don't like that". But oh the tone! The tone that comes from a tone-tapped piece of wood that is a les paul is untouchable in quality..

Now a fender, yeah, an Ibanez can hold it's own with a fender in terms of tone and playability, but there is something about the strat and the tele when it comes to playing blues and country (and sometimes, even classical! Ask Yngwie!) that makes it the instrument of choice for many, many people. And it's generally not just because people have heard the name so much. It IS in the quality of the guitar. Buy a cheapo guitar center strat squier, and it will sound and play like one. Buy an expensive fender strat, and it will sound and play like an expensive fender strat. Think Eric Johnson would sound like himself if he were playing an Ibanez? Not likely.

My advice to you, especially if you are just getting into the guitar scene. Don't write these guitars off as being "fads". They are not. They are popular with the masses for a reason. Like Ibanez, they each have things that make them unique and worthy of much praise. They are not like a "commercialized radio song" in that everyone likes it because everyone likes it. If anything I would imagine that Ibanez gets that distinction among guitarists, because all the really, really good shredders typically play Ibanez. If you're wanting to simply be different among all the Ibanez players that you "worship", don't play Ibanez. Go get yourself a Dean (great guitars) or an esp, or a jackson, or better yet, a Tom Anderson (probably one of the greatest electric guitars currently being produced, and you'll pay for it too). THESE are the guitars that are mainly being overlooked in the electric guitar area.

Anyway, just my two cents worth. I just cringed when I read the reason why you "hate" les pauls and fenders. If you're going to hate something, hate it because you hate it, not because everyone else likes it. If you're going to play Ibanez-style music, play an Ibanez. If you're going to play strat music, play a strat. If you're going to play power chords from hell, get yerself a good les paul and see what happens.

Beau

Well, you've said it so well... I'm one of those players that gets labeled as the "lead guitarist" all the time, because of how I play -- as if it's the only thing I can do, is play fast and do leads... it's crimpling to me emotionally (I'm quietly weeping as I type this)... anyway, I played Charvel/Jackson guitars, built much in the same regard as the nice Ibanez models for yours. I picked up my friend's old Les Paul, and I tell you, I was surprized by the feel and action on it. It played just as well as my Jackson/Charvel and you could easily play some Rhoads, Via, or Satch on it -- barring the tremolo -- but who cares!
Obviously not all Les Pauls are this quality, nor set up this way, but they can be. Definitely Gibson Les Paul and Fender Strats have a reason for being around for so long -- and it's not just because everyone else has them or they were or are the fad. I completely agree with what you said, and any guitarist will know that different guitars play different, have different tones and different purposes. A Les Paul is a great (and very expensive) guitar, but I just don't see how you could lose, provided you get a good one. A strat too, just has a certain tone quality that can't be easily emulated, unless it's built basically the same. A good Les Paul and a Marshall 1/2 stack (the tube heads), you just shouldn't need anything more -- not that I'd complain if I did have more. :-)