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sgwilks 05-05-2003, 05:55 AM | I want to buy a .com.au australian domain name but once i have bought the name i want to be free to transfer the name and host elsewhere. Can i host australian domains anywhere in the world or do i need to host with an australian hosting company? |
Angel78 05-05-2003, 07:11 AM You can use them to host where ever you want :) |
Aushosts 05-05-2003, 07:19 AM | Remember you need to meet the auDA conditions. . . |
sgwilks 05-05-2003, 09:51 AM I am an australian resident about to register a business name the same as the domain name i wish to buy so do i need to register the business name before buying the domain name? |
Toeki 05-05-2003, 12:46 PM Why not just register a .AU instead of the .COM.AU ? |
Aushosts 05-06-2003, 05:15 AM Originally posted by sgwilks
I am an australian resident about to register a business name the same as the domain name i wish to buy so do i need to register the business name before buying the domain name? You'll need a business name before you can get a .com.au. . . |
Aushosts 05-06-2003, 05:16 AM Originally posted by Toeki
Why not just register a .AU instead of the .COM.AU ? No such thing as a top level .au domain name. . . only .com.au, .net.au, .org.au, .asn.au, .id.au, .conf.au, .edu.au, .gov.au. |
adland 05-06-2003, 08:56 PM Remember you need to meet the auDA conditions. . .
Unless what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
A study of registrations in the recently deregulated .us domain space shows that Bradley Norrish, a Director of Internet Registrations Australia, is the 2nd largest single registrant of domains within the .us TLD.
1746 .us domain names have been registered under the name "Internet Registrations WorldWide" listing Mr Norrish as Registrant Contact with a New York address, and a contact email address of brad@irww.com (example here). Very curiously indeed, none of these domain names appear to list any contact phone numbers. According to the report, the "overwhelming majority" of these names are three letter domain names.
http://www.australiandomainnews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=172
If you check the US address for these registrations, you'll see it is a maildrop:
http://www.nycsuites.com/parttime.htm
IRA has been involved in legal action in Australia for other shady actions.
Any way we can ge ENOM to pull their registrations? |
Aushosts 05-07-2003, 04:28 AM i have no idea what the second part of your post is on about. . . How does that have anything to do with the thread starters question? :topic:
Edit: Actually wtf does your post have to do with anything? :eek: YOU NEED TO FOLLOW AUDA RULES OR THEY REVOKE THE DOMAIN! :topic: |
snoop 05-07-2003, 04:54 AM Originally posted by SpiritAu
You'll need a business name before you can get a .com.au. . .
the rules have been changed quite a lot by auda recently and a business name is no longer a strict requirement, instead there are several ways of being eligable, some of them are quite vague.
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2. Domain names in the com.au 2LD must:
...................
"c) be otherwise closely and substantially connected to the registrant, because the domain name refers to.
(i) a product that the registrant manufactures or sells; or
(ii) a service that the registrant provides; or
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http://auda.org.au/docs/auda-2002-07.txt |
Aushosts 05-07-2003, 05:01 AM For example, if the registrant of a com.au domain name no longer holds the registered business name that they used as a basis for licensing the domain name in the first place.
Your forgetting that the .com.au and .net.au are for business only so you need an ABN, ARBN, ACN ! ! !
My business is an offical auDA reseller, paid the licence fees and everything, so I know what i am talking about :D
You also need a business licence to be able to come under the other regulations |
snoop 05-07-2003, 05:27 AM Originally posted by SpiritAu
Your forgetting that the .com.au and .net.au are for business only so you need an ABN, ARBN, ACN ! ! !
My business is an offical auDA reseller, paid the licence fees and everything, so I know what i am talking about :D
You also need a business licence to be able to come under the other regulations
that is simply three of the 8 means of being eligible, its just that in practice most businesses will have an acn/abn etc.
It is not an absolute requirement though. eg a sole trader trading under their own name (which would not neccessarily require an abn for a small business or business name) could obtain a .com.au under the AUDA rules which are quite clear on things,
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1. To be eligible for a domain name in the com.au 2LD, registrants must be:
a) an Australian registered company; or
b) trading under a registered business name in any Australian State or Territory; or
c) an Australian partnership or sole trader;
d) a foreign company licensed to trade in Australia; or
e) an owner of an Australian Registered Trade Mark; or
f) an applicant for an Australian Registered Trade Mark(1); or
g) an association incorporated in any Australian State or Territory; or
h) an Australian commercial statutory body. |
Aushosts 05-07-2003, 05:33 AM If your trading under your own name "John Smith" you still need a business name in most states in Australia. . . Trading without one will result in big fines :D
You will get an ARBN or business number and with this you can get a .com.au!
Even johnsmith.com.au would need at least an ARBN, try to get yourrealname.com.au and it'll get rejected!
You need a business licence to get a .com.au domain and to be allowed to trade commercially. Without one your breaking the law . . .
Originally posted by snoop
that is simply three of the 8 means of being eligible, its just that in practice most businesses will have an acn/abn etc.
It is not an absolute requirement though. eg a sole trader trading under their own name (which would not neccessarily require an abn for a small business or business name) could obtain a .com.au under the AUDA rules which are quite clear on things,
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1. To be eligible for a domain name in the com.au 2LD, registrants must be:
a) an Australian registered company; or
b) trading under a registered business name in any Australian State or Territory; or
c) an Australian partnership or sole trader;
d) a foreign company licensed to trade in Australia; or
e) an owner of an Australian Registered Trade Mark; or
f) an applicant for an Australian Registered Trade Mark(1); or
g) an association incorporated in any Australian State or Territory; or
h) an Australian commercial statutory body. |
Techark 05-07-2003, 05:51 AM SpritAu knows of which he speaks.
I just registered a name yesterday and had to have the ARBN number to even submit the form.
And I have been reading up on the rules the last few days since I am thinking of getting my own auDA reseller account. |
sgwilks 05-07-2003, 06:28 AM I have a registered business "Pashmina Shawls" and i have an ABN number my website is www.pashmina-shawls.com so does this mean i can buy any .com.au domain name or as i suspect i can only buy for example
pashminashawls.com.au
pashmina.com.au
shawls.com.au
Or anything that i sell on the website.
What if i want to buy the domain name www.bicycles.com.au could i add a page on my website selling bicycles and then buy the domain name? |
Aushosts 05-07-2003, 07:19 AM Yes you could get bicycles.com.au! Under
(i) a product that the registrant manufactures or sells
So in my case I could get webhosting.com.au becuase its something I sell.
Originally posted by sgwilks
I have a registered business "Pashmina Shawls" and i have an ABN number my website is www.pashmina-shawls.com so does this mean i can buy any .com.au domain name or as i suspect i can only buy for example
pashminashawls.com.au
pashmina.com.au
shawls.com.au
Or anything that i sell on the website.
What if i want to buy the domain name www.bicycles.com.au could i add a page on my website selling bicycles and then buy the domain name? |
Aushosts 05-07-2003, 07:21 AM Originally posted by Monte
SpritAu knows of which he speaks. :D
I just registered a name yesterday and had to have the ARBN number to even submit the form. Thats correct!
And I have been reading up on the rules the last few days since I am thinking of getting my own auDA reseller account. [/B] There are a lot more options these days. Check out bottledomain.com.au thats who we use. A $275 reseller fee is also payable. |
snoop 05-07-2003, 09:07 AM Originally posted by SpiritAu
If your trading under your own name "John Smith" you still need a business name in most states in Australia. . . Trading without one will result in big fines :D
You will get an ARBN or business number and with this you can get a .com.au!
Even johnsmith.com.au would need at least an ARBN, try to get yourrealname.com.au and it'll get rejected!
You need a business licence to get a .com.au domain and to be allowed to trade commercially. Without one your breaking the law . . .
this is not correct, I have been trading under my own name for years without needing one, (in victoria) the law is also the same in NSW, I haven't checked it in all the other states but I doubt it would be any different.
"Business Names
If you want to trade under your personal name only, John Smith for example, registering is an option. But if you want to trade as say, John Smith Motors or the John Smith Group, then you'll probably need to register a business name.
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http://www.consumer.vic.gov.au/cbav/fairsite.nsf/pages/of_bnames |
Aushosts 05-07-2003, 09:15 AM Interesting. . . Thanks for the correction |
AusJeff 05-08-2003, 12:55 PM Snoops correct.
You are allowed you to trade under your name without the need for registereing the name.
I have my own name as a .com.au without the need for any further information. |
Aushosts 05-09-2003, 04:38 AM So say if my name was John Smith I could regester smith.com.au? or does it have to be johnsmith.com.au? As smith.com.au would come under the guildlines for a business but not a personal trading name as it would be John Smith.
This is really interesting as I have rejected [yourname].com.au domain orders in the past. |
snoop 05-09-2003, 05:18 AM spirit, I tend to think its more related to the domain registar rather that the actual AUDA policy.
I think some might find it easy to screen out registrations on the basis of business number/acn etc, when it is not actually a auda requirement any more.
I your name was john smith and you were selling shoes under the name "john smith" I see no reason why you wouldn't be entitled to say "shoes.com.au" without having a bus reg.
Things do tend to vary hugely between registrars, namescout.com.au for example manually screen individual app and knock back a big %, others such netregistry seem to process automatically simply on the basis of an acn/abn being present and thus will basically register anything even though it may clearly not meet auda requirements which has led to an increase in dubious .com.au reges, stuff like britneyspears.com.au for example (was actually a tpp registration). From what I can see of it though auda are not particularly concerned, its basically anything goes now. |
OctaneDesign 05-09-2003, 04:19 PM in WA as well you can trade under your own name without a ARBN or an ABN. you only need an ABN if you are turing over 50,000AUD in australia.
what snoop says is right, anything pretty much goes. there are so many domains registered a day you want someone to check out each and every one? i think not |
sgwilks 05-11-2003, 12:20 AM Who actually checks if you can buy the domain then, is it AUDA or the reseller? if its the reseller then isnt it in his interests to sell the domain to make his profit. |
Aushosts 05-11-2003, 12:37 AM The reseller or auDA regestar |
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