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View Full Version : When a good registrar goes bad
AlaskanWolf 06-26-2001, 08:33 PM Damn...looks like Netsol and Registrars.com are under the same hood now...godaddy.com here i come
Dear William Sani
Registrars.com is pleased to announce that VeriSign Inc., the world's leading provider of Internet trust services,
acquired the assets of our company on June 18, 2001. This strategic acquisition by VeriSign enables us to continue to
provide domain name registration services to you and our retail customers as we have in the past.
We will continue with business as usual with no changes to our programs and pricing.
Your domain name is still registered with us, and you may continue to access the same features you had before with your account
at the Registrars.com website, www.registrars.com, and we will continue to keep you informed of any acquisition related news
and other developments on a regular basis.
We are excited about the opportunity this acquisition provides for us and for customers and to be a part of the VeriSign mission
to "Enable everyone everywhere to use the Internet with confidence." We invite you to learn more about VeriSign at www.verisign.com.
If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact us at your convenience.
For prompt reply, please email us and direct your inquiries to the appropriate email address below:
General enquiries: staff@registrars.com
Technical support: support@registrars.com
DNS/Contact info modifications: dns@registrars.com
Transfer of ownership: transfer@registrars.com
Partners/Affiliates: partners@registrars.com
Billing enquiries: billing@registrars.com
Investor relations: investor@registrars.com
Ownership Transfers: ownership@registrars.com
We thank you for your continued support and look forward to continuing to do business with you.
Sincerely,
Registrars.com
A division of VeriSign, Inc.
Email: staff@registrars.com
http://www.registrars.com
Tel: 1.604.687.4700
Toll free: 1.800.850.8282
Fax: 1.604.681.1089
Hours of Operation:
9:00am-5:00pm Mon-Fri
Pacific Standard Time (GMT - 0800)
Copyright © 2001 Registrars.com, a VeriSign Company. All rights reserved.
Lacey 06-26-2001, 08:54 PM Well the way the service has been at register.com and the fact that they charged me for a domain I didnt want to renew even though I had quick renew turned off and I had to kick butt to get my money back this really doesnt surprise me, Im glad when I registered my new domain I picked a different registrar! :eek:
joe52 06-26-2001, 09:20 PM This is not register.com, but another company called registrars.com.
joe
bombino 06-27-2001, 01:39 AM I've always had great luck with Dotster (www.dotster.com) - $14.95 per domain for a year.
Their support is great, and they have an easy to use web interface too.
dotcomguy 06-27-2001, 01:01 PM There will be many more instances like this in the future.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again - it isn't possible to run a profitable registrar with rates below $10. (.....yes, I know their retail was $30....but that only made up maybe 10% of their domain registrations......the rest were through partners with huge discounts)
Have a great day.
:cool:
Chicken 06-27-2001, 01:09 PM Originally posted by dotcomguy
There will be many more instances like this in the future.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again - it isn't possible to run a profitable registrar with rates below $10. (.....yes, I know their retail was $30....but that only made up maybe 10% of their domain registrations......the rest were through partners with huge discounts)
Ryan, I think you are reading into this buyout as something else that what it was. Your post seems to imply that they were in financial trouble and *needed* to be bailed out, which I'm not certain was the case. If you have information stating this, then I'd like to take a look, but otherwise, seems like a big fish eating a smaller fish to gain market share.
dotcomguy 06-27-2001, 01:31 PM sent you a PM
:)
UmBillyCord 06-27-2001, 01:41 PM dotcomguy, please send me this too. Thanks.
I know there is a lot of talk in that industry about consolidation. We have heard rumors of some very popular low cost registrars in financial trouble also. One rumour came from the NS's sales rep who wanted us to becaome a Premier Partner and offered domains at $8.00. :D
Also, I though Registrars.com was bought by Network Commerce, Inc. (Owns eHost too) to fix the financial issues. Guess they couldn't.
dotcomguy 06-27-2001, 01:51 PM Originally posted by UmBillyCord
dotcomguy, please send me this too. Thanks.
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Nothing to send. I won't give specifics (It makes me look bad). But I am glad to hear that you're aware of the possibility of upcoming consolidations.
Yes, Network Commerce bought them, but if anything that purchase had the opposite effect, for both parties.
I'm assuming the NS deal offered to you came with a large volume requirement, am I right?
UmBillyCord 06-27-2001, 02:04 PM Actually no. But the funny thing was this ..
We received an odd e-mail from someone asking how many registration we did. He said he is afraid of losing his domain to a small registrar going out of business. So one of my techs sent me the e-mail. I of course responded with a rough number of what we do. Next day....."You have a call on line 3. It is so and so from Network Solutions". I am not saying something fishy was going on, but.....
It was actually a good deal. $8 per year. The contract was for 2 years though. When I asked to see this API they talk about, I was disappointed. This is where OpenSRS shines. NS's said to keep control over domains for billing, we have to be the billing contact. Which of course is BS. This does nothing but cause huge issues at renewal time for us. Plus NS's doesn't give away free sweatshirts when you reach 1000 registrations. :D
dotcomguy 06-27-2001, 02:15 PM Originally posted by UmBillyCord
Actually no. But the funny thing was this ..
We received an odd e-mail from someone asking how many registration we did. He said he is afraid of losing his domain to a small registrar going out of business. So one of my techs sent me the e-mail. I of course responded with a rough number of what we do. Next day....."You have a call on line 3. It is so and so from Network Solutions". I am not saying something fishy was going on, but.....
How about this one....(i'm like fourth party on this, so authenticity isn't verified, but it doesn't surprise me!)
A guy is interviewed for a management position with a succesful hosting company. Turns out this guy is a VP with NS, and all he wanted was the customer list!!!
Originally posted by UmBillyCord
It was actually a good deal. $8 per year. The contract was for 2 years though. When I asked to see this API they talk about, I was disappointed. This is where OpenSRS shines. NS's said to keep control over domains for billing, we have to be the billing contact. Which of course is BS. This does nothing but cause huge issues at renewal time for us. Plus NS's doesn't give away free sweatshirts when you reach 1000 registrations. :D
So, if I offered you a free sweatshirt with every 500 registrations, would you switch? ;) (just kidding....)
UmBillyCord 06-27-2001, 02:35 PM So, if I offered you a free sweatshirt with every 500 registrations, would you switch?
If it has a hood and pockets. You bet. :D
I have a few names I bought through Registrars.com a while back. NS's did not even wait for the carcass to get cold before they Spammed me telling me to re-register and buy Image Cafe now that they acquired Registrars.com. I thought it was a joke. Went to the Registrars.com web site. They didn't even have that they were bought yet! These guys are nuts.
dotcomguy 06-27-2001, 02:39 PM Originally posted by UmBillyCord
<SNIP>
These guys are nuts.
ROTFLMAO :laugh:
druber 06-28-2001, 12:34 PM so when your registrar goes under, you have to pay again to re-register? is that a general rule? sounds like a very fine way to get stung.
dotcomguy 06-28-2001, 12:39 PM Originally posted by druber
so when your registrar goes under, you have to pay again to re-register? is that a general rule? sounds like a very fine way to get stung.
Nobody said that. Most likely, the new registrar would simply take over the existing domains. Now, at renewal time you aren't guranteed the same rate you were previously paying - the new registrar has the right to determine their own pricing. So, you may pay more to renew with them, you may pay less. This isn't a concern, for obvious reasons.
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