I still want to change the main site from test.com to a real site on my raq3 but what i don't understand is the name servers for the main site the one with the greyed out trash can :) the name servers are just IP address? instead of the name of the server that the rest of the sites use? so what do i need to do at network solutions do i give them my name servers or thouse 2 IP address?


main site with greyed out trash can is just IP numbers

the rest of the sites have a name sever
ns1.whatever.com
ns2.whatever.com

or i guess im soupoused to add test.com to the DNS Settings and that would give the main site a server name? or is the Configure Start of Authority (SOA) Record wich has test in it soupoused to be the name of ALL the name servers for every site or do i just setup the main site exactly like the other ones same name server and all? do i sound dumb or what.....

Not stupid just very, very confused. :)

What are you using for DNS? The RaQ itself or other servers?

Your server has an IP address. Replace test.com with either a domain you own (hostname=www domain=domain.com), or a subdomain of a domain you own (hostname=subdomain domain=domain.com)

Then, DNS that name to the IP address above.

Really, you don't even need to name the server. You are now accessing the server by IP addess only, correct? Yes.

SO you can keep on doing that, but you could also access the server by whatever you put there. "test.com" is NOT a domain you own, so just forget about anyting involving that.

This get you going?

yes im using the Raqs DNS and i get to the other sites buy just using


www.whatever.com (http://www.whatever.com) = NS1.WHATEVER.COM
NS2.WHATEVER.COM

ww.test.com = ?


when i go to network General Settings Host Name is www then Domain Name is just test.com i just replace that with one of my domains right? and all i change there is thouse 2 things?

ok and after that i go to mange test.com and site settings i can't change whats there like i can on the other sites why?

Or do i setup test.com the EXACT same way i did the other Virtual Sites usaing the same eveything (name servers) but a differant IP address of course? the other 4 domains work fine, i dont know why the place im leasing it from didn't do this for me

How about the book DNS and Bind? Even if you have a useful control panel it's good to know the basics before going any further.

You also need to register the nameserver with Internic. Goto to NetworkSolutions.com click site-map then click new host (or is it modify host, something like that) and fill in the details.

Ummm ok, you are still confused I guess. I am going to try to dig up a URL of a step by step manual for setting up DNS on a RaQ. I don't use mine for DNS, so we aren't in the same exact situation.

Ok, he is a URL from superraq about how to set all this up. For get what you have done or think you know, and just follow the directions step-by-step :)
http://www.superbraq.net/support/raq3manual/dns.shtml

Side Note: Admin's suggestion is a very good one. Although DNS isn't rocket science, it helps to know what you are doing. You may want to read up a bit before you attempt to run your own DNS server. This should get you going for now though.

[This message has been edited by Chicken (edited 08-24-2000).]

I already have the nameservers reg with network solutions for all the virtual sites wich is 4 domains all 4 domains are reg with the name server
ns1.mydomain.com
ns2.mydomain.com

but for test.com do i use ns1.mydomain.com for a name? It has to be the same as the other sites dosent it? or does it matter

i just dont want the other sites to go down because i messed up the main site test.com
the other 4 work i can type in www.rick.com (http://www.rick.com) or just rick.com and i get my site...........just wondering did you guys go to school for this type of thing or just learned it buy reading?

[This message has been edited by Rick2 (edited 08-24-2000).]

It really isn't going to matter as far as I can tell. You can access the main server admin through any URL on the server, so I doubt what you put makes a difference (though I am not sure how things are exactly set up when you run DNS through the server as well, maybe ns1.domain.com wouldn't be the best choice?). Even that may not matter.

Ohh, and I read on the net amd asked questions like you are doing. :)

Chicken why don't you use your own DNS? Who do you have it with? im wondering how that works :)

I guess it dosen't really matter that my main site really isnt a site does it? Its just a IP adress wasted i guess. thanxs for the help!

I use tera-byte's DNS and it works much like you'd imagine. (Don't know what to really say about this...)

Other than having another site on the server, I am not sure what naming the server would do. Not much :)

I forgot to ask does every virtual site have to have the same name server? or can each site have a differant one? like this
www.rick.com (http://www.rick.com)

ns1.rick.com
ns2.rick.com
www.ricksplace.com (http://www.ricksplace.com)

ns1.ricksplace.com
ns2.ricksplace.com

[This message has been edited by Rick2 (edited 08-25-2000).]

If you read that tutorial I posted (did ya'?), it gives instructions on how to set up additional nameservers. This is out of my territory (has been for some time, heh), but I suggest you look that over to get a general understanding.

You'd have to set up an additional nameserver on your machine (using two IP addresses), to do what I think you want to do.

I know how to set them up my question was can each domain have a differant nameserver or does every domain on the Raq have to use the same nameserver?

Originally posted by Rick2:
I know how to set them up my question was can each domain have a differant nameserver or does every domain on the Raq have to use the same nameserver?

Each site of your RaQ can either have it's own nameserver or each site can share one set of name servers. The most important thing to remember is each name server needs it's own dedicated IP address.

Regards
Mike

yeah all 4 sites use the same name server and the dedicated IP address is in the add address record right? can someone please explaine how all this works step buy step when someone types in www.mydomain.com (http://www.mydomain.com) what happens? does that go to networksolutions then they point to the name servers then they decide wich domain is trying to be pulled up buy what i have enterd in the address record? i'll figure this out one day i never give up :)

thanks for all the help!!

what really messes me up is when i do a whois on my domains and i see this for all 4 domains name servers

ns1.rick.com IP 38.26.166.185
ns2.rick.com IP 38.26.166.186

how does the raq know wich domain is being called when all the name servers ip address are the same for all 4 domains? yes i do have a differant IP adress for each domain in the address record......i guess im just being dumb again


[This message has been edited by Rick2 (edited 08-26-2000).]

Perhaps this will help, http://www.dnswiz.com/dnsworks.htm

Rick, you have to familiarize yourself with how DNS works even on a basic level before you attempt to run your own DNS servers. If you do not do this you will be competely confused (as you are now). :)

"how does the raq know wich domain is being called when all the name servers ip address are the same for all 4 domains?"

This is the ultra, super condensed version of what happens. I am going to skip all of the steps that don't pertain directly to you...

Someone types in yourdomain.com which queries your nameservers (ns.nameserver.com ns1.nameserver.com). This is what you have set up.

The nameservers direct your visitor to where the site is located by one of two ways: 1) by IP address (you dns site1.com to resolve at a certain IP address and then set up site1.com on your RaQ with that same IP address), or 2) by name (you dns site2.com to resolve at the any IP address and set up site2.com on your RaQ with that same IP address).

If you set up sites without dedicated IP addresses, then the server and the browser are directed by the domain name (it recognizes that domainA.com and domainB.com are not the same thing).

The nameserver's (ns.nameserver.com) function is to direct. Once this is accomplished, the server can serve the correct pages.

Note: This is not a very good explanation of exactly what happens, and I left out a healthy amount of info such as other ways to direct domains to the correct place, etc. Also, when someone types in "yourdomain.com", there are many more things that happen in between, that I just didn't mention.

There are many *books* written about this, and you can't really sum it all up in one sentence.

Hope that helps a bit...

[This message has been edited by Chicken (edited 08-26-2000).]

Thanks JTY :)

I'd like to mention my thanks too...

Chicken, thanks a lot for helping out newbies like us !!!

Even books sometimes don't answer our doubts as explicitly as some of the posts you experts post in this forum !!!

People like you (and the others regularly posting in this forum) really are doing your bit in helping newbies like us move ahead.

Learner

Awww shucks. I am just happy to pass on the small bits of info I know :)