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ckizer 06-25-2001, 01:47 PM Some Indian host site has stolen my graphics, "Signup" button and has stolen from crystaltech, and from cwi host http://www.hosturbo.com please don't host with them and let them know about the stolen SWEAT & BLOOD of others they now profit from, they have a contact form on their website.
iVersit 06-25-2001, 01:53 PM well then again..if we get them to stop stealing from those companies...I wonder who they will rip off next? IT COULD BE YOU!! I'm not sure how to go about prosecuting content theives that base their operation outside of the US. If anyone has any info on this, I would LOVE to help. I can't stand theives.
edude 06-25-2001, 01:59 PM Yes i agree with you!, also hosturbo uses this forum. All HOSTS who steal graphics or other website content, should be eliminated - period!
Originally posted by ckizer
Some Indian host site has stolen my graphics, "Signup" button and has stolen from crystaltech, and from cwi host http://www.hosturbo.com please don't host with them and let them know about the stolen SWEAT & BLOOD of others they now profit from, they have a contact form on their website.
ckizer 06-25-2001, 02:08 PM Actually I'm going to find their upstream provider and try to get them shut off that way. If i can't then I'm (already now) looking for cheep tickets to Indian.
edude 06-25-2001, 02:10 PM LOL! good luck in India, i hope you find your way around :) also thats an good idea, but can you speak indian?
Originally posted by ckizer
Actually I'm going to find their upstream provider and try to get them shut off that way. If i can't then I'm (already now) looking for cheep tickets to Indian.
Colin 06-25-2001, 02:11 PM If I remember right, the guy from Hosturbo's user name here is koolguru.
Maybe you'd want to PM him?
MCHost-Marc 06-25-2001, 02:11 PM Plans from CrystalTech, Signup buttons from Sharp Web, Text from CWIHosting ...what else?!!! :( :eek:
HOSTurbo, can we have an explanation? :D
(SH)Saeed 06-25-2001, 02:14 PM Are you saying http://www.hosturbo.com/ has the same signup button as http://www.goodhosting.org/ ? Or maybe I misunderstood?
ebird 06-25-2001, 02:38 PM Which button you were talking about? Didn't see the similar buttons. Maybe they changed it?
ebird
Here we go again... :rolleyes:
I hate this copying BS.
These are just the one's people happen to be noticing. Just think how many there are out there setting up these fly by night reselling operations and then going out and copying someones site. Then they realize, hey this works and add their site-copying business plan under a link entitled "Professional Web Design". On another note, I recieved an email from someone who wanted to copy my site because they couldn't do it themselves. He said i'd get full credit for the layout and asked if i'd send it to him in a zip file. :uzi:
Duster 06-25-2001, 03:14 PM Something similar happpened a few weeks ago with a guy who defaulted on payment and laughed at the designer who foolishly trusted him to pay. The scoundrel dared him to do something about it since he thought he was out of reach.
He was out of reach. However, the content was not. The server it was on was hosted in the U.S. I suggested the designer contact the host and politely request they remove the copyrighted content. They did so and the site went down shortly thereafter.
I believe a similiar method might be effective here.
I'm wondering myself though, in the case of the email. By not giving permission to someone that asks if they may copy the site would you think they'd just go ahead and do it anyway, if they hadn't already?
Eagle 06-25-2001, 06:22 PM ckizer, here is the information of their upstream provider...However, if you're material is not copyrighted I'm afraid you dont have much of a chance....
Network Operations Center Inc.
P.O. Box 400
Bloomsburg, PA 17815-0400
US
Coordinator:
Arcus, Matthew shawn@hostnoc.net
570-784-2491 x7
Mbarb 06-25-2001, 06:54 PM This is really Burst.net, Give Sean a call and see what he can do for you..
Originally posted by Eagle
ckizer, here is the information of their upstream provider...However, if you're material is not copyrighted I'm afraid you dont have much of a chance....
Network Operations Center Inc.
P.O. Box 400
Bloomsburg, PA 17815-0400
US
Coordinator:
Arcus, Matthew shawn@hostnoc.net
570-784-2491 x7
MCHost-Marc 06-25-2001, 07:03 PM Hmmmm, i would like to see a reply from the HOSTurbo guy ...which probably won't happen :stickout
mrdennisj 06-25-2001, 07:31 PM yeh.....his name around here is koolguru
I think I have his email addr around if you want it
creepcolony 06-25-2001, 08:39 PM Originally posted by mrdennisj
yeh.....his name around here is koolguru
I think I have his email addr around if you want it
ahhh!!! don't say addr!!!
Speakerguy 06-25-2001, 08:57 PM Creepcolony, that was really mean. Creep owns www.creepcolony.com . I asked him "what host do you use, because I want to know a good hosting service for my site".
He says "The service I use is has too much monthly bandwith for your site, you should use a cheaper service, like hosturbo." Good thing I registered on this forum, because now I know that hosturbo is a cheap hosting service that gonna get themselves in a trouble.
I suspect that Creep wanted me to sign with hosturbo, him hoping that they would get sued then go bankrupt, then I would be screwed. I dont think he links competition for his site.
Please excuse my english. It is not very good.
MCHost-Marc 06-25-2001, 09:00 PM I personally think that HOSTurbo's prices are way too low to stay in business for long ...
Scott 06-25-2001, 11:25 PM Hostturbo is now down for maint. and a site re-design ;)
edude 06-25-2001, 11:31 PM hahaha hes to late! we have screenshots of it! someone MUST take legal action!
qslack 06-25-2001, 11:43 PM Originally posted by Scott
Hostturbo is now down for maint. and a site re-design ;)
What good would that serve? As long as the people in question don't copy any more of your graphics, why would you want to waste your time and money on ruining their life?
Isn't it enough to win? Don't you just want them to stop using your stuff?
Just my $.02.
edude 06-25-2001, 11:49 PM NO!, they have to learn an lesson so they DO not do it again! What will stop him from copying someone elses graphics now?
Originally posted by qslack
What good would that serve? As long as the people in question don't copy any more of your graphics, why would you want to waste your time and money on ruining their life?
Isn't it enough to win? Don't you just want them to stop using your stuff?
Just my $.02.
LOL!
Site Down For Maintainence
Will Be Back Up With A New Design & Layout Verry Soon . . .
MCHost-Marc 06-26-2001, 01:05 AM HOSTurbo: we're still waiting for an explanation. re-designing the site won't help :D
FrankieG 06-26-2001, 01:20 AM Isn't it possible that the owners of hosturbo hired somebody else to design their site?
All I'm saying is that it seems feasible for a company to hire somebody else to do webpage design and then completely innocently end up with other people's pics/icons/whatever on their site just because the designer was a weasel
Just a thought before people start breaking out the torches ;)
MCHost-Marc 06-26-2001, 01:25 AM Originally posted by FrankieG
Isn't it possible that the owners of hosturbo hired somebody else to design their site?
All I'm saying is that it seems feasible for a company to hire somebody else to do webpage design and then completely innocently end up with other people's pics/icons/whatever on their site just because the designer was a weasel
Just a thought before people start breaking out the torches ;)
Most companies that "lease" the design from other websites usually say ...our designer did this layout for us - we had no idea he just copied it, etc. Same thing happened with ex-TacidHost a while ago ;)
Originally posted by FrankieG
Isn't it possible that the owners of hosturbo hired somebody else to design their site?Well, that could be somewhat true, not like it hasn't happened before. But if even the plan images were copied, how does a designer get away with those being exactly what the host wanted?
ckizer 06-26-2001, 01:32 AM I took care of that, after reading my email the told me that it would be taken down. I told them i would talk to burst.net and have them shutoff that or fly to india to take care of it. :-) that hopefully changed their minds..
As far as why i would spend time and money on a little signup graphic (i'm not using on my site right now, that's why you didn' see it) the reason is because I spend hours designing those graphics, and for somebody who competes with me for business to steal business from me using my OWN hard work... well that should explain. I would pretty much spend any amount of money to see the proper justice served.
MCHost-Marc 06-26-2001, 01:35 AM ckizer: just a little comment "in-between" this conversation ...your graphics @ goodhosting.org are just great :D
Dogma 06-26-2001, 01:53 AM Site Down For Maintainence
Will Be Back Up With A New Design & Layout Verry Soon . . .
Can't even spell very right...............hehehe :D
I'm sorry, but this really pisses me off. I am a webdesigner, and luckily haven't been ripped off yet *knocks on wood.* People put time, effort, and money in creating sites and when others think that they can just take part or all of the design, it's just horrible!! I know that HOSTurbo is reading this (b/c of the redesign, humm what a conicidence....) and I want to say to you:
:puke: HOSTurbo
koolguru 06-26-2001, 01:54 AM Originally posted by Kiwi
Most companies that "lease" the design from other websites usually say ...our designer did this layout for us - we had no idea he just copied it, etc. Same thing happened with ex-TacidHost a while ago ;)
That Was Exactly the Case With US. However I Personally (On The Behalf Of My Company) Apologize From Court Kizer of Sharp Web Innovations
, CWI & CrystalTech For Using Their Material On Our Site. It has All Been Removed & I Promise That Such A Mustake Will Never Happen In Futere. Please Excuse Us. We Are Extremly Sorry. Hope You Guys Escuse Us. Sorry Again. Thnaks In Advance.
DigitalDiva 06-26-2001, 04:36 AM They're back! This time they hired someone to design their site. Must have cost them a fortune to do an emergency site design.
I think it's time for an even bigger - Special Offer...hmmmm
hyperbuzzy 06-26-2001, 09:13 AM Hi all,
My name is aaron and I'm the designer of the "new" HOSTurbo site. I can't say I knew anything about this before deciding to help out with a new site, however I will ask you to all lighten up a bit.
I actually found the link to this place by looking at referals to my site, so I figured there must be a link here somewhere...
I'm a professional web developer with my own business in QLD Australia and can understand how it would be frustrating to have stuff taken from my site and used on someone elses.
The point here is that a lesson has been learned. If we pointed this issue out to other sites I wouldn't expect them to be as forthcoming as these guys.
It didn't cost a fortune either :)
That's my two bits worth anyway.
ksstudio 06-26-2001, 10:36 AM We have that king of experience also, recently.
:angry:
Ksstudio, how you know that?
Hehe, they copy our entire web contents include the human click tags. We notice some user enter our "site" but the URL was C:\\xxxxx\xxxxxx\xxxx\index.htm
:D
Planet Z 06-26-2001, 11:21 AM Originally posted by hyperbuzzy
My name is aaron and I'm the designer of the "new" HOSTurbo site.
I couldn't help but notice the quote on the main page is from aaron@folioserver.com. That wouldn't happen to be you, would it? :D
koolguru 06-26-2001, 11:38 AM Yes It Is Him.
Just Wanted To Clarify That His Domain folioserver.com is Hosted With Us So He Has The Liberty Of Commenting On the Services, Doesnt He ?
:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
creepcolony 06-26-2001, 11:47 AM Originally posted by Speakerguy
Creepcolony, that was really mean. Creep owns www.creepcolony.com . I asked him "what host do you use, because I want to know a good hosting service for my site".
He says "The service I use is has too much monthly bandwith for your site, you should use a cheaper service, like hosturbo." Good thing I registered on this forum, because now I know that hosturbo is a cheap hosting service that gonna get themselves in a trouble.
I suspect that Creep wanted me to sign with hosturbo, him hoping that they would get sued then go bankrupt, then I would be screwed. I dont think he links competition for his site.
Please excuse my english. It is not very good.
wtfudge? i told you about hosturbo quite a while ago, before i found out they stole design. i was trying to help you by suggesting a low-cost hosting plan. sheesh!
MCHost-Marc 06-26-2001, 12:19 PM HOSTurbo: How about the text you used to describe your services? Was that your designer too? Anyways, the new design looks pretty good :)
Also, can you let everyone here know who the designer of the previous site was? I don't think anyone here wants his site from a designer that -leases- the graphics from somewhere else.
bigdaddycool 06-26-2001, 12:19 PM well the hiost turbo guy is in india and u know they work for like 10 cents an hours..real cheap labor and stuff, so thats why he can afford this low payment
iVersit 06-26-2001, 12:53 PM I'm pretty sure that was wrong BDC.
koolguru 06-26-2001, 01:50 PM Our Previous Site Was Designed By A2Z Designs India - http://www.a2zdesigns.co.in Way Back In September Last Year. No Even The Domain Name Has Been Expired & The Phone Number That I have In Our Records Justs Rings Off Till A Busy Signal. I Am Trying To Get Hold Of Those Guys Right Now.
:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
jwolfx 06-26-2001, 02:22 PM Originally posted by koolguru
Our Previous Site Was Designed By A2Z Designs India - http://www.a2zdesigns.co.in Way Back In September Last Year. No Even The Domain Name Has Been Expired & The Phone Number That I have In Our Records Justs Rings Off Till A Busy Signal. I Am Trying To Get Hold Of Those Guys Right Now.
I'm getting even more confused... I thought the original site said that HostTurbo was formed in December 2000? The hosturbo.com domain also shows that it was created on May this year.
Domain Name: HOSTURBO.COM
Created on..............: 06-MAY-2001
Expires on..............: 06-MAY-2002
Record last updated on..: 18-MAY-2001
hyperbuzzy 06-26-2001, 03:46 PM Originally posted by Planet Z
I couldn't help but notice the quote on the main page is from aaron@folioserver.com. That wouldn't happen to be you, would it? :D
Yep, you are right. And just for the record I have found everything to go really smootly. No hic-ups.
hyperbuzzy 06-26-2001, 03:48 PM Originally posted by Kiwi
HOSTurbo: How about the text you used to describe your services? Was that your designer too?
Nope, as it states on my site - design only.
FrankieG 06-26-2001, 05:45 PM Originally posted by hyperbuzzy
My name is aaron and I'm the designer of the "new" HOSTurbo site.
I'm a professional web developer with my own business in QLD Australia
I'm sure there's a reasonable explanation, but didn't anybody think it was odd that "aaron-from-Australia" was posting from an IP in San Jose CA?
(I'm sure the answer is something like: "My business is in Australia but I'm in the US" or something, but I still thought it... interesting....)
Planet Z 06-26-2001, 06:32 PM Originally posted by FrankieG
I'm sure there's a reasonable explanation, but didn't anybody think it was odd that "aaron-from-Australia" was posting from an IP in San Jose CA?
Looks like an aussie IP to me:
Name: cfw2.sanjs1.ca.excitehome.net.au
Address: 203.164.2.198
hyperbuzzy 06-26-2001, 07:24 PM Originally posted by FrankieG
I'm sure there's a reasonable explanation, but didn't anybody think it was odd that "aaron-from-Australia" was posting from an IP in San Jose CA?
(I'm sure the answer is something like: "My business is in Australia but I'm in the US" or something, but I still thought it... interesting....)
MY GOD!
You guys are just unbelieveable! This whole thing isn't a conspiricy you know. Don't you guys have anything better to do than this?
I'm on the OPTUS@HOME network - cable -
-- Thanks Planet Z for recognizing :)
Sabre 06-26-2001, 09:22 PM HOSTurbo's service is very good, I haven't had any troubles with them at all and I'm glad that there were reasonable explanations.
If you are all suspicious of a wuote by the designer you could do just as good by replacing his name with mine. I would say the same things.
AussieHosts 06-26-2001, 10:44 PM I like pure-media's work. Being the inquisitive type, I went through their portfolio and everything looks good.
So one good thing has come out of reading this...we have secured the services of a local ASP developer now that our previous one has gone into a fulltime position, and pure-media are just down the road from us.
Gary
arabnity 06-27-2001, 12:25 AM Originally posted by hyperbuzzy
Yep, you are right. And just for the record I have found everything to go really smootly. No hic-ups.
I agree with hyper and sabre. I have signed up with hosturbo only a couple of days ago and I have found them to be very kind and eager to help so far.
Give the guys another chance. It must have taken guts to face this thread, and a lot of humiliation to ask for forgiveness the way they hve. But they did, and -personally- I appreciate that.
Despite my recent misadventure with a 'now seemingly defunct' hosting company, I honestly think that the Hosturbo guys are trying to do something good with their business. Not a very good start, I agree ;) , but they made a mistake and I think they have learnt a lesson here.
After all, admit it: advertising in the midst of the competitors they have allegedly ripped content and images from is to say the least naive. I am sure it is common practice to go and have a look at the competition. I know I would, especially a new business advertising on these boards like you do.
I honestly can't believe that they did it intentionally... (but, what the heck, surprise me!).
Well, that's my opinion anyway.
MCHost-Marc 06-27-2001, 02:13 AM Comment on the new design: Compare the text at http://www.hosturbo.com/overview.html
Too often providers operate their networks at three to four times responsible capacity. HOSTurbo does not, and never will overload its servers.
Cisco 7200 routers ensure reliable and consistant delivery of your website each and every time. Reliable Equipment on the back end means reliable delivery of your sites content on the front end.
Your site will be on our network with redundant DS-3 connections to the internet. Redundant ensure that your site will be up no matter what. HOSTurbo has the scalability to host sites from small personal sites to large fortune 500 sites.
with HostRocket's text at http://www.hostrocket.com/v2/network_info.html
Too often providers operate their networks at three to four times responsible capacity. HostRocket does not, and never will overload its servers. All new HostRocket servers are Crystal Group Dual Processor, 1700 mhz rackmount servers, with over 768 megs of ram, redundant power supplies and battery backup.
Cisco 7200 routers ensure reliable and consistant delivery of your website each and every time. Reliable Equipment on the back end means reliable delivery of your sites content on the front end.
Your site will be on our network with redundant OC-3 connections to the internet. Redundant connections provided by MCI, Level 3, and Verizon ensure that your site will be up no matter what. HostRocket has the scalability to host sites from small personal sites to large fortune 500 sites.
Not trying to be bitchy here, but it just amazes me how 2 companies can have the almost exact same description :)
Edit: NM "HOSTurbo - (design only not content)"
AussieHosts 06-27-2001, 02:36 AM Originally posted by Haze
I guess editor will be looking for yet another now?
Not at all mate. pure-media's portfolio clearly states they did the design only, not the content. From that I assume they were provided the text, or have provided an online tool for the client to generate their own. This is becoming common place these days.
Gary
edude 06-27-2001, 02:39 AM I have seen this to many times before! and it seems mostly from countries in Asia. I remember kunal copying wonderdesk's text as well, hes from India to. Any relation with these two?? Well i've had enough of this, people have worked hard for there content, and no one has the right to copy it and add there own points inside. All HOSTS and everyone else who copies other's content should be disregarded and SHUT down. If burst.net is their provided they should shut them down, i would do the same to any of my clients.
Kindest Regards,
ValuableHost
Originally posted by Kiwi
Comment on the new design: Compare the text at http://www.hosturbo.com/overview.html
with HostRocket's text at http://www.hostrocket.com/v2/network_info.html
Not trying to be bitchy here, but it just amazes me how 2 companies can have the almost exact same description :)
schweiz 06-27-2001, 02:55 AM Didnt someone still owe us an explanation here:
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=11034
:D
How suss is this? :puke: This company makes me ill.
Get-Hosted.com 06-27-2001, 05:04 AM Originally posted by ksstudio
We have that king of experience also, recently.
:angry:
Ksstudio, how you know that?
Hehe, they copy our entire web contents include the human click tags. We notice some user enter our "site" but the URL was C:\\xxxxx\xxxxxx\xxxx\index.htm
:D
Uh oh... I noticed this couple times recently with my humanclick... Think there is a copy on the way?
MCHost-Marc 06-27-2001, 11:36 AM ...and HOSTurbo.com seems to be down now. :eek2:
pootp 06-27-2001, 12:08 PM and the plot thickens....
UmBillyCord 06-27-2001, 12:46 PM Do you ever notice something about this subject? Look at who is most vocal about copycats. Then go to their web sites. They all have great web sites with a lot of time invested.
Now go to the sites of the people who defend these copycats. (You can look to other post regarding this issue to see more samples). These sites look like they were made with MS Power Point images.
I do not understand how someone can defend when they can not even understand.
MCHost-Marc 06-27-2001, 01:21 PM I agree. Its sad to see someone taking your design that you've worked on for days. :( By the way, we use Microsoft Paint for all the graphics :stickout j/k Photoshop 5 :D
alpha 06-27-2001, 02:16 PM :eek: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=11034
hmmm, not only design/images/content... but code!!!!
i can't believe someone would even try to sell another person's code by trying to cobrand it!
I guess the worst thing is that he failed to mask it completely and tried to sell it anyways...
:angry: :mad: :bomb:
FrankieG 06-29-2001, 05:41 AM Wow, things have certainly heated up in the last day or so. Serves me right for staying away for so long :)
In any case, it looks like Hosturbo is batting 1000 right now... and all in the wrong direction. Crazy
I guess I can cross them off my list of potential hosts...
edude 06-29-2001, 06:26 AM Yes pathetic! unbelieveable! i just don't know how someone can be in the right mind to do something like that :(
Kindest Regards,
ValuableHost
Originally posted by alpha
:eek: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=11034
hmmm, not only design/images/content... but code!!!!
i can't believe someone would even try to sell another person's code by trying to cobrand it!
I guess the worst thing is that he failed to mask it completely and tried to sell it anyways...
:angry: :mad: :bomb:
Walter 06-29-2001, 06:53 AM Originally posted by Hostexp
Yes pathetic! unbelieveable!
Don't tell me ;)
It already happend two times to me in the last three months, one time from a visitor of this board (no names) wo vanished after his host closed his sites.
TechnoHosts 06-29-2001, 09:31 AM Hate to break it to you, but your old layout with the cloned graphics was not a unique design. It is a commonly used template for sale at 4templates.com
http://www.4templates.com/cgi-bin/preview?business+business11
take a look, maybe you should question who does your web design work in the future.
<koolguru>Hope you didn't pay more than $13.50 for your first layout.
creepcolony 06-29-2001, 10:36 AM is 4templates.com down
Originally posted by Get-Hosted.com
Uh oh... I noticed this couple times recently with my humanclick... Think there is a copy on the way?
You bet! This has happened to us three times in the past couple of months. I can see someone right now on our site with the HumanClick as I am writing this, his "Current Page" is "file:///C:/My%20Web%20Sites/ProNIC/www.pronicsolutions.com/...
What do you think they are doing? They are obviously copying the code, graphics and maybe the text. I also discovered another guy just yesterday with an exact copy of our site. I am trying to bring him down now.
It is sickening to know that all these designers-wannabe are stealing all our ideas and hard work. :angry:
horoscopes2000 07-04-2001, 04:56 AM How do you guys manage to find the copied sites?
Do you just stumble across them?
Originally posted by horoscopes2000
How do you guys manage to find the copied sites?
Do you just stumble across them?
It could be luck, or you could get people e-mailing you to say, 'I just happened to see blah blah with an extremely similar design to yours.... etc. etc.'. It's more prevalent particularly if you're in a burgeoning industry like the web hosting industry.
What I personally do is every month or so, I go to the major search engines (Google, Altavista, etc.) and I type in certain phrases, filenames or words which I know are pretty unique to my site and see if anything turns up. I know of a couple of web design companies around my city which does that occasionally.......
Walter 07-04-2001, 10:20 AM I do the same as BC.
And last time the one who copied was silly enough to forget to change one email-addresse which pointed directly to me.
:D
edude 07-04-2001, 10:27 AM Have you guys noticed that "koolguru" the owner of "hosturbo" has not provided any explanation for his "copying" of trademarked items, especially the support script. I think the mods should reccomend an explanation from him.
Kindest Regards,
ValuableHost
:angry: :angry: :angry: :uhh: :uhh: :uhh:
Chicken 07-04-2001, 12:48 PM Sorry, we don't suggest people post responses to threads, they must do so only if they want to.
edude 07-04-2001, 12:56 PM Oh ok ;), hmm anyway, his reputation is already below 10 now :)
Kindest Regards,
ValuableHost
Originally posted by Chicken
Sorry, we don't suggest people post responses to threads, they must do so only if they want to.
horoscopes2000 07-04-2001, 05:14 PM Thanks for answering my question guys.
I must admit, some times i steal code but most of the time i only use it to see if it works for me. i never steal images, just stuff like java script or vbscript. example, today i couldn't get the if statement correct for my navigation bar. so i went to my friends site, :bawling: downloaded his page, opened it up in a java editer and looked at his if statements (because im use to vb and C#). And sometimes i download websites to get design ideas such as splash screens, navigation bars, menus etc... but 95% of the time i never use their code, i just base my code off of their code so i dont screw it up you know what i mean? But that hosting company that stole the complete website, and even the text, thats just sad.
~steph~ 07-09-2001, 12:18 AM Originally posted by rae
I must admit, some times i steal code but most of the time i only use it to see if it works for me. i never steal images, just stuff like java script or vbscript. example, today i couldn't get the if statement correct for my navigation bar. so i went to my friends site, :bawling: downloaded his page, opened it up in a java editer and looked at his if statements (because im use to vb and C#). And sometimes i download websites to get design ideas such as splash screens, navigation bars, menus etc... but 95% of the time i never use their code, i just base my code off of their code so i dont screw it up you know what i mean? But that hosting company that stole the complete website, and even the text, thats just sad.
yeah..me too.
Get-Hosted.com 07-09-2001, 02:32 AM I agree... doing stuff like that isn't wrong, but he copied a whole ticket system script, tried to make a new skin for it, and tried to sell it. That's pretty bad.
choon 07-09-2001, 11:45 AM Hi,
I agree... especially when I am learning... have a working example to see/discover/learn how it works will definietly speed up my learning curve though... :)
Regards,
Choon
P.S. I am happy to find this site... so many people involved... :blush:
Originally posted by rae
I must admit, some times i steal code but most of the time i only use it to see if it works for me. i never steal images, just stuff like java script or vbscript. example, today i couldn't get the if statement correct for my navigation bar. so i went to my friends site, :bawling: downloaded his page, opened it up in a java editer and looked at his if statements (because im use to vb and C#). And sometimes i download websites to get design ideas such as splash screens, navigation bars, menus etc... but 95% of the time i never use their code, i just base my code off of their code so i dont screw it up you know what i mean? But that hosting company that stole the complete website, and even the text, thats just sad.
chilediez 01-13-2002, 09:10 PM Could you please list the 2 URL for the designs hostturbo stolen.
THNX
bigmattyh 01-13-2002, 10:36 PM Wow... It's always neat to see a resurrected thread.
This one is over 6 months old.
UNIXIELHOST 01-13-2002, 10:37 PM Yeah,. amazing huh?
if you go to hosturbo.com you see a icon of man right? That was stolen from *ahem* *****.
http://www.hosturbo.com/graphics/index_r8_c1.jpg
Enuff said
chilediez 01-13-2002, 10:43 PM When someone stole your work, what can u do?
Originally posted by josephp
if you go to hosturbo.com you see a icon of man right? That was stolen from *ahem* *****.Maybe it was, maybe not. Do you suppose that image is an actual ***** employee, or an original photo taken by the designer of the ***** site? More likely it's from a stock photo service.
Of course, it still might be stolen...
But anyway, mostly I just wanted to use this posting opportunity to complain that once again someone has replied to and revived a thread that's too old to really be relevant. I wish the default on the search page was set to three months, or even one month, instead of "any date."
>Can't even spell very right...............hehehe
That would almost be as bad as not knowing grammar.
Byron 01-14-2002, 10:36 PM I think what JayC said is right. It is a more matured and rational view. I feel that some of us here are quick to blindly join in attacks on a company, any company.........it may be the herd / lemmings effect or it's motivation may be a personal vendetta against that particular company. Just my 2 cents.
ochiba 01-15-2002, 01:46 AM So they copied stuff, obviously lots of stuff. ::bad bad cheating company::
How does that affect their webhosting? The only things that I read that were applied to their webhosting were positive comments.
So are they good or not? After all it's not their content I'd care about but my own for my website.
bigmattyh 01-15-2002, 01:55 AM DEAR GOD PLEASE LET THIS THREAD DIE!
It ended over 6 months ago... just let it die...
hoo...
oh boy.
horoscopes2000 01-15-2002, 04:47 AM Yes, nobody post any more messages to this thread. Especially really pointless messages like this one, which serve no purpose.
:)
BitterSweet 01-15-2002, 07:45 PM This is just stupid, companies throwing sh**t on others...
a) I'm just sure that you all who complain would not really care if the one that has copied wasn't ur direct competitor.. a nice way to get ridd of another (good?) competitor. This is simply so low. Doesn't say much of the person / people who started this thread.
If your sites are good, i believe others have copied ur stuff or have got inspired in it, but since they are not a bug for ur business, u just ignore it/ don't care / don't try to find out if anybody else has copied ur designs
b) I would like to ask all of you who complain about this site copying mine, that site copying that other bla bla, I would like that you answered HONESTLY, if you have never ever copied ANYTHING from another site.
Would be funny to find out that the oh-poor-me-they-copied-my-sign-up-button has been, let's say inspired, not to say copied from another site ;)
Please.. GROW UP!!!!
Forgot to say: Yes, i signed up today, just to reply to this post.. just had to ;)
Byron 01-20-2002, 01:49 AM beautifully written. I have the same sentiments.
Mafukie 01-20-2002, 02:05 AM I can't see why this post wasn't locked 5 minuites after it was
created. Someone stole your sites graphic and you have a
problem with it, email them requesting that the graphic was
removed and changed. If they deny the request simply email
the people who host their site. It's a simple sign-up graphic that a
monkey could do in 5 seconds, get over it.
bigmattyh 01-20-2002, 02:10 AM Originally posted by Mafukie
I can't see why this post wasn't locked 5 minuites after it was
created.
Speaking of...
Hey Chicken, BC, anyone -- this thread has gone on long enough, hasn't it? Bust out the lock, moderators!
Byron 01-20-2002, 02:21 AM IMHO, because stupid threads like this brings 5000+ flamming page views.
If someone start a similar thread on one of WHT's sponsors, will it still be allowed?
Byron 01-20-2002, 02:34 AM Correction: It shd be 5200 THREAD views.
With 7 pages in this thread.
It's a total of more than 36 400 page views.
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