Which ad networks are you using?
I'm using Fastclick as my main network, burstmedia and musicvision on the second place and dimclicks (don't laugh ;) ) for places where I have to fill in a default banner. Oh and I'm a member of FocusIN but i give them only about 400 impressions/day because the cpm is way to low.

I used Allclicks for a while but I was kicked because I also had a small mp3 site (not with mp3's or mp3 links on it). I didn't realize that was wrong and you apparantly don't get time to remove link which are not allowed.
The funny thing is.. they told me it was something about misleasing visitors. I had non-alclicks links like 'click here to download mp3's!' :) But in my opinion, linking to allclicks is equal to that.
I hate to mislead visitors with those blind links anyway :puke: hehe

grrr, devil, evil, get rid.

i had to pay money just so i dont see friggin advertisements, i had to go out and buy AdSubtract just so these stupid advertisements wouldnt appear !!

Ok, but, in my opinion, that's like.. going into a bar and drinking beer and not paying. Or like.. downloading lot's of mp3's and not sharing anything.

I primarily used Click2Net and ValueClick for CPC Advertising, but Click2Net will be shutting down operations at the end of this month.

-Shawn

i'm with focusin now...signed up about 1 1/2 months ago

I use Burst for the few pages that I actually have ads on. It does pretty well considering the condition of the general ad market (I'm getting around $1 CPM average).

Originally posted by xtstrike
grrr, devil, evil, get rid.

i had to pay money just so i dont see friggin advertisements, i had to go out and buy AdSubtract just so these stupid advertisements wouldnt appear !!

Do you have the ads cut out of a newspaper or magazine before your buy it? Those ads pay most of the costs of publishing it. Banner ads are usually the only revenue that websites receive.

I wish there was a script available that would block complete access to a webiste to any visitor that uses this type of ad blocking software. I would install it in a heart beat!

:angry: :uzi:

Originally posted by Racin' Rob
I wish there was a script available that would block complete access to a webiste to any visitor that uses this type of ad blocking software. I would install it in a heart beat!

:angry: :uzi:


Why? Because people actually sometimes like to surf the Internet and NOT get bombarded by advertisement windows popping up? Personally, I can't stand them and wish they didn't exist. I laugh when companies go out of business because their ads aren't effective enough. I have Internet access to get to web sites that interest me and not to purchase stuff. If I do need to buy something, the Internet is my first resource but I will do the looking, I don't need other companies looking for me.

Just my opinion, don't hate the message since you are entitled to your view as well...

Originally posted by markblair


Why? Because people actually sometimes like to surf the Internet and NOT get bombarded by advertisement windows popping up? Personally, I can't stand them and wish they didn't exist.
When you channel surf with your TV do you not see advertisments? Do you think you should be able to block them out as well. Without advertising revenue, no media type can stay in business. The only alternative would be pay per view. Is that an option for web surfers? I don't think so.

FWIW, I do not use or like pop-up either. They are extremely annoying. I don't visit any web site on a regular basis that uses them. But the sites I do visit, I do not mind having to view their banner ads, just like I don't mind viewing TV commercials.

Originally posted by Racin' Rob

When you channel surf with your TV do you not see advertisments? Do you think you should be able to block them out as well. Without advertising revenue, no media type can stay in business. The only alternative would be pay per view. Is that an option for web surfers? I don't think so.

FWIW, I do not use or like pop-up either. They are extremely annoying. I don't visit any web site on a regular basis that uses them. But the sites I do visit, I do not mind having to view their banner ads, just like I don't mind viewing TV commercials.


I may have misunderstood this thread. Banner Ads I can deal with because just like you said, I can bypass them without losing any sleep. It's the popups that annoy me. Just like with TV, if I come across a web site with annoying advertising, I just move along to another site. With TV, I change the channel.

I'm against the use of software that blocks banner ads from being displayed. I would love to be able to block access to my website to those that use it.

JMO.

Planet Z, do you get $1 CPM NET? (with the 50%/40%/30% contract cut)
I thought they were really good in the beginning, but the stats on the main page are without the 50% cut :)
But even 50% of the $1 cpm i get isn't bad, compared to other networks.

well, har har, its never gonna happen :)

ad blockers are here to stay, and the internet is here to stay, free or with advertisements, it just so happens i have the advantage of the internet without the crap.

with TV, if i see an advertisement ill just turn over, ive also perfected the little recording feature on my VCR that allows the VCR to automatically skip the ADS, its great.

Lets face it people, if enough people dislike something then someone will do something about it !, examples

a) ads, ad blocker
b) tv ads, remote control, vcr
c) petrol prices, well if you are in the uk, you know what we all done!
d) disliked president, they get shot (lol)
e) microsofts prices, cracks within 24 hours

it happens everywhere, if enough people disagree then something gets done about it.

**ive made my point clear, and im off topic for this thread, so ill rest now**

Hehe I knew this discussion would happen when I posted that message :)
It is possible to block visitors when an ad is not loaded but that's not worth the effort and it's really lame.

If people don't want to see ads then that's their right. If enough people don't want to see ads then there will probably soon be a pay system for the better sites for example. But I'm sure that won't happen because internet connections are getting faster and faster and most of the people are lazy or don't even think about these things :D

You could buy a product such as the one located at www.botbuster.com and I will be implementing a similar script on my site giving a message that my site is only possible to run from the ad revenue from the site, so they will have to disable their ad blocker in order to see the site.

I can afford to lose the few visitors that will find this lame :)

And they aren't making me any revenue after all so why should they waste my bandwidth?

that shock the monkey ad has a high CPR :)

Originally posted by creepcolony
that shock the monkey ad has a high CPR :)
Has a low CPM rate though. :(

And it slows down the browser

Originally posted by eriky
Planet Z, do you get $1 CPM NET? (with the 50%/40%/30% contract cut)
I thought they were really good in the beginning, but the stats on the main page are without the 50% cut :)
But even 50% of the $1 cpm i get isn't bad, compared to other networks.

I'm getting just above $1CPM gross. And I'm on a 30% contract. So it works out to be just below $1CPM NET.

Originally posted by xtstrike
ad blockers are here to stay, and the internet is here to stay, free or with advertisements, it just so happens i have the advantage of the internet without the crap.

Right now barely anyone uses adblockers. There's no significant revenue loss for sites, because such a small percentage of their visitors are using adblockers. If, however, these adblockers become more prevalent, I think you'll see a lot of sites either a) block content from users that are using adblockers or b) goto a pay format.

Each time someone loads a page, it uses bandwidth. That bandwidth has to be paid for somehow (plus the server, time to create content, etc.)