Im in a ladies group (dont laugh) online and they brought this site to my attention http://www.bonsaikitten.com/ isnt this against the law?

I did a who is and got some info but would like some advice on how to proceed.

This people are really stupid! At least I would send a complaint.

Bonsai Kitten has been discussed in these forums before - do a search for them.

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People! Relax!!! It's a joke site. I'm not saying it's in good taste - but it's a JOKE!!!

If you poke around the site, you'll see where they offer "Bonsai Kids" as well. :P"

--Tina

i hope thats not real...

thats mean and cruel

If it's a joke as Tina said I think it's not only bad taste but also very silly. Or how would you think about a site with child porn and the owner tells you "hey, it's only a joke!" (an extreme example, I know).

Originally posted by Walter
If it's a joke as Tina said I think it's not only bad taste but also very silly. Or how would you think about a site with child porn and the owner tells you "hey, it's only a joke!" (an extreme example, I know).

It IS a joke. While it's not extremely funny - I can see the humor in it...mainly because it's pretty obvious, to most, that it IS A JOKE!

--Tina

I would disagree, there is no humour in it what so ever.

It is very dangerous, and I presume the "joke" was actually based on some experiment or something other than just a though.

It is not obvious that it is a joke, some people are sick and things that may be perceived as being worse than bonsai kittens have happened for real. Over 6000 people have signed a petition against the site online, is it really that obvious?

All it takes is for someone to encourage these sick people (ie. such as site like bonsaikitten.com) and they go ahead and do it. I mean it is possible. Infact I bet it has been done before, probably thousands of times, the "joke" cover just doesn't work. :angry:

Has anyone tried calling that phone number?

Jonathan P.
Owner/Webmaster
http://www.yeswebmaster.com

Yea I thought it was absoulutly sick too, and it made me even more sick when in the previous thread people were standing up for the persons right to freedom of speech! Whats this world coming too??

Joke or no Joke, theres no excuse for a site like that and anyone saying differently should be ashamed of themselves.

The world would be alot better place, if it was governed by morals and not rules.

I will never forgot this stupid thread I started about this site.

http://www.sictalk.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/000881.html

read it. There are links to official news about that site.
Oh, please: that is an old thread. Please don't bring it up. I don't want it to be brought up again on that messageboard.

That is soooo sick! I almost choked on my manbeef burger of human flesh. www.manbeef.com

Aloha
well if ya want send a complaint to PETA and SPCA and your local humane society,

see what they do
??

the purpose of the 1st amendment (for those of us in the u.s.) is to protect speech that is not popular. if speech were popular, then it wouldn't need protecting, now would it?

i have five cats. i treat them as my own children. i love my cats! but i wouldn't run around trying to shut down this site. yes, it is in poor taste. yes, it is possible that some idiot 13 year old will try to stuff a cat in a jar. yes, the guy should have a better disclaimer. but make the guy take down his site? no. that would go against my libertarian principles. people do have the right to not have any class.

blar!

Jonelin nailed it. What is dangerous is the attitude of those who would prohibit what they do not care for, one shared by some of you. That's not how a democractic republic works. It is supposed to represent the rights of all its citizens, even those with poor taste in humor.

Banning web sites like this is right up there with book burning and those who would ban books from libraries that they do not care for and would prevent others form seeing as well.

The road to Hell was paved with good intentions.

The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.

It's a fake
read this http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,41733,00.html

I personally recognize that this site is a joke, but it is HORRIBLE!! This kind of sick stuff happens all the time and it's just wrong.

Just my thoughts...............going over to the PETA site :D

I do agree it is in poor taste but it is also their right to have a site like that. If someone doesn't like it then complain to the authorities and they may look into it. Of course if it is just a joke and turns out no animals were harmed then there is nothing they can do.

I never said it should be shut down, or that i would try to shut it down, you can simply not visit it if you dont like it and yes i respect the 1st amendment right, but the fact that someone could actually have such sick thoughts and then would go so far as to build a complete site around such a sick notion, is well SICK, and i feel anyone who trys to justify that such a site is morally right, joke or not a joke, could only be sick in themselves.

Consider this, the person spent 40 hours prob. designing the site and updating it, etc... What if those 40 hours were spent helping his society instead.

I would never want to violate peoples rights to freedom of speech, so i hope that site stays up, just to help insure our ammendments are protected. But you really have to wonder what the worlds coming to when our society has become so numb that, they disregard this site as a joke or funny.

well, personally, i love cats/animals i wouldnt do anything to harm them BUT

I was in fits of laughs over that site !!

Originally posted by cbaker17

Consider this, the person spent 40 hours prob. designing the site and updating it, etc... What if those 40 hours were spent helping his society instead.


Well, imagine if I spent the hours I spend laying around in my underwear actually helping society....whoops, did I saying underwear ? I meant what if I spent the hours I spend each day reading constructive books actually helping society. Its his time, let him spend it how he wants.

Originally posted by MattF

All it takes is for someone to encourage these sick people (ie. such as site like bonsaikitten.com) and they go ahead and do it. I mean it is possible. Infact I bet it has been done before, probably thousands of times, the "joke" cover just doesn't work. :angry:

thousands of times huh?
I think anyone who will *actually* go ahead and shove a kitten into a jar just because some website told them too, has a few more problems rolling around in their heads. If someone did go ahead and do that, then they deserve to be taken out of the system as permanently as possible.

However... the site is a joke. It's designed to shock, and get a reaction. In this regard it's done well. Whether you agree with the content or not it succeeds in it's purpose.

We live in a society today where people are infuriatingly careful not to offend or upset anyone else due to the grand american tradition of nailing anything that doesn't fall between the lines of good, wholesome suburban values. Strangely enough it's also a society that sends thousands of e-mails to a website making a joke, but on the same hand allows Tom Green to chainsaw a dead racoon in half in front of a studio audience *shrug*

Bonsai Kitten isn't something that's designed to appeal to everyone. If it did it wouldn't have a reason to be there in the first place. OF COURSE it's going to offend people... However complaining to the animal rights people isn't going to do a lot of good as from all reports the closest those kittens ever got to being in jars is once the pictures reached photoshop.

Just shake your head, tut-tut a little and poke your back button - you'll live a longer and happier life.

Greg Moore

That is a VERY SICK website. He must have putten the poor kittens in the jar to take the pictures, or am I misstaking? Either way, that site is not funny at all, it's very offending and disturbing. :mad:

Originally posted by zolbian
Either way, that site is not funny at all, it's very offending and disturbing. :mad:

Ya it may disturbing and offensive. It doesn't particulary offend or disturb me, I am not giving the site the pleasure of having an effect on me. Incidently the same laws that give him the right to write about bonsai kittens are the same laws that let you say this person is disturbed and his site sucks.

Jag your missing the point, and you apparantly have no desire to here me or anyone else out, im NOT debating whether its ok or not to have the site up, im debating whether its sick or not.

I dont understand what the heck your trying to say about you in your underwear, what does that have to do with anything.

Maybe you should spend some time doing some local community service, it does wonders for my soal and our local community, I would think it would do the same for you.

Regardless of whether anyone thinks it right or wrong, legal or not legal, thats not the point, the point is the person could have spent their time in better ways to actually help people not disgust people.

That is simply my opinion and has no reflection on anyone elses or the worlds opinion in general.

Everyone will have their own opinion which is what makes this a free country, its just that some peoples opinions are sick and some are not. Its not my place to make a judgement on whos opinions are moral and who arent and whos right and whos wrong, someone else at the end of our life will make that call for all of us!

Not to restrict anyones freedom of speech :) but i think everyone including the mods know where this threads heading, and it wont be conducive to friendly conversation, should we maybe lock it?? Again not my decision just my opinion.

Someday were all going to have to wear a disclaimer on our foreheads :)

Disclaimer: I can not be held responsible for any thoughts, actions, or words that may be thought up in this head :)

I am not missing any point, see my first line in teh post above yours. It is a sick site but legal. You are discussing the sites content an I was simply stating its legal even if it is sick. The thread isn't going anywhere that would cause it to warrant a lock. Leave it open, lets talk !

Originally posted by cbaker17
I dont understand what the heck your trying to say about you in your underwear, what does that have to do with anything.

Maybe you should spend some time doing some local community service, it does wonders for my soal and our local community, I would think it would do the same for you.

That was just some comic relief, or rather an attempt at comic relief. ;)

No thanks, my "soul" does not need any help . I would rather spend an afternoon with my wife an child instead of out doing community service. If that makes me a tyrant or immoral then so be it.

Regarding the site : its a joke. If you don't find it funny, don't go there. Its like those shows on the TV you don't agree with...don't watch them. If you really want to do something constructive, why don't you go after the 100+ sites that claim the nazi holocost never happened... But no, you will rant n rave cuz "its a cute lil kitty", the hell with the 12 million plus poor SOBs the naziz destroyed.

Regarding the images: Its called Photo-Editing folks.... Any good graphics hacker worth their salt could use Photoshop or GIMP and do it. I've put friends of mine into SWTPM, and just recently did a rather "interesting" edit for another friend. You can do it, if you have the know how.

Problem with sites like this is everyone gets all uppity about it, wants to ban it, boycott it etc. Its called freedom of expression. You don't have to LIKE what THEY do, but realize that just as much as YOU hate what Group A does, Group B hates what you do....What if Group B gets their way, and YOU hare the one forced to shut up?

"Too many people are only willing to to defend rights that are personally important to them. It's selfish ignorance, and it's exactly why totalitarian governments are able to get away with trampling on people. Freedom does not mean freedom just for the things *I* think I should be able to do. Freedom is for all of us. If people will not speak up for other's people's rights, there will come a day when they will lose their own." - Tony Lawrence


"In Germany they first came for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up." - Martin Niemoller


"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters." --Daniel Webster (1782-1852)


"Sir: Dr Graham Gould (letter, 19 March) could not be more wrong about political correctness. It is always about having the power to dominate by controlling speech and expression. Unlike, say, law enforcement, which proscribes certain actions which are deemed to be bad, PC describes certain corret words and deeds, from which any departure is deemed to be bad. Perhaps Dr. Gould should reflect a little on the historical use of the word 'heresy'." - C A Banks

"Wherever they burn books, they will also, in the end, burn people." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson


"Censorship reflects a society's lack of confidence in itself." --Potter Stewart


"He is always the severest censor of the merit of others who has the least worth of his own." -- Elias Lyman Maggon


"The books that the world calls immoral are the books that show the world its own shame." -- Oscar Wilde


"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." -- Noam Chomsky


:angry:

Youre right cbaker

not condusive towards the threads well being technohost.... plus didnt care to read content from that site exp. when ive purposly steered clear of the site.

Originally posted by cbaker17
Consider this, the person spent 40 hours prob. designing the site and updating it, etc... What if those 40 hours were spent helping his society instead.To basically make the same point that Jag did, but without mentioning my underwear: the same could be said of anyone who spends even a few hours a week watching TV sitcoms, going to baseball games, reading comic books, or just sleeping in on weekends. Or reading and posting to pointless threads on silly hosting-related sites.

I think none of us is -- and few people anywhere are -- in the position to judge the way people spend their free time, or how anyone else's life benefits society.

sorry, duplicate.

I think if we wanted to pursue something really unwholesome we should go after Jag and his sitting about in his underwear habit. I personally found it touching me in a very unwholesome way... you know, the way preists touch you. :D

Greg Moore

Man who ever is hosting this and the person behind it is just F*CKING SICK. I hope there is 6' foot under soon..
I have a CAT and 2 rotties and could never do some **** like that to them.. But who knows what the rotties will do to others.. :)

To those of you who claim that the author of bonsaikitten.com should have done something more constructive with his time, I say that he has done something very constructive. I'm not saying that I enjoy his site, but it is highly provocative and has lead to hundreds of discussions like this one. I was going to say that we are all wasting our time talking about this, but I realized that we are not.

You are discussing freedom of speech, animal cruelty, and other important topics with more passion than you probably have in a long time. To still have people doing this months after his site first received major media attention (there were lots of stories about this site back in February) is quite an accomplishment. I don't really care for the site, but to discuss it is to do what the author sought. The goal was not to show some edited pictures of kittens, but rather to get people to think, both about what they are seeing and what it means.

That's just my $0.02
-joe

I love how people believe anything. Did you her about the guy who started a site called biopeep? it was against 2 headed chicken mutilations, he got like 20,000 some people to show up at a rally, and then got on stage and told them how stupid they were :-) all because of his website to prove people don't check into things before they just believe.

Originally posted by Vortech
I have a CAT and 2 rotties and could never do some **** like that to them.. Right. But you're missing the point that nobody did anything to any kittens here. For all we know, the people who created that site love the kittens they took the pictures of every bit as much as you love your cat. And they might even love the bottles that they also took pictures of, and the copy of Photoshop that they used to put the two together...

This is pathetic. You all have your panties in a knot over this PARODY site.

Feed the hungry? Heal the sick? Help the elderly? Stop the drug problem? Nahh...we're all to busy stoping Bonsai-Kitten. I mean, F*** the homeless...look how mean he is with photoshop and that kittie.

If you don't like it, DON'T GO THERE.

Personally, I don't like animal abuse....or people ause, even though they are the same thing. I'm by faith a devout Pagan (Egyptian) with Tao influences. Yes the idea of hurting a little fluffy kitty makes me upset....but I can see the guy wants you to get all pissed and react. Just ignore him...he'll go away. I'm more concerned with the pedo's on line publishing REAL photos of a 5 yr old getting raped, than an obviously doctored photo using Photoshop and Kai's Goo.

You idiots are all hosts....why don't you just flood his site with so much traffic he goes broke? Block his IP from your servers (You know...CENSOR HIM!!!)

Here I thought I was dealing with a group of mature professionals....not little children.

VORTECH - You have Rots? You mean those EVIL dogs that EAT CHILDREN? maybe we should exterminate em? I mean, don't they attack people every day? BTW- I'm being sarcastic..my webmaster has 1 rot , and 1 of my clients has 2 (drool machines)... And I am a cat person....

MATTF - I'm more conserned with the SOB who drowns their pets cuz they can't afford/ dont want em than a guy with too much time on his hands who doctors photos.

CBAKER - Is the site sick? Yes, but not anymore than the THOUSANDS of pedo sites, or hundreds that think the Nazi's had it right.

ZOLBIAN - Its called a photoedit.... usually done on the porn sites to put actress A's head on porn bimbo B's body. See PHOTOSHOP, KAI's PHOTO GOO and other assorted bits.

To WHOMEVERS NOT WEARING THEIR UNDERWEAR......

PUT IT BACK ON, AND HANDS FIRMLY ON THE KEYBOARD PLEASE!


"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." -- Noam Chomsky

I don't care for the site, so I won't go there....simple as that. BUT! I will support his right to be sick....if I don't, who will support mine to be me? Once you start limiting freedoms, where do you stop? :angry: Its a sick joke (to me and to you) but WHO? decides what is and isn't ok? You aren't upset about the snuff sites, the nazi sites, the drug sites or the bomb-making-for-dummies sites...but stick 1 little kittie in a mason jar.....

write a long post on a hot topic and others get there first. :)

Some folks get it....thank the gods.

I now have hope again for humanity.

This site was put in place by two MIT students (it first appeared on the MIT servers but was later moved off campus network) They too put this site up to prove, that people would believe anything they saw. It was to prove a point, They didn't harm any of the cats, and in fact both the students are avid cat lovers. They proved their POINT well didn't they :-)

Visited that one awhile back. They didn't really shove the cats into the jars and stuff. I did find it a bit funny (and I don't believe in h*** so banishing me there will do you no good) and of course I'm not the biggest cat fan. I wouldn't however want anything real like that to happen. I love animals (just don't care for cats that much) and really hate seeing things go wrong with them like the lab experiments, but again, it's twisted humor. Get SouthPark shutdown, then go after the kitten site. What about all the wrestling kids that cut themselves up to bleed more after their backyard ring rounds? Society is twisted, it's best to take care of the real stuff before the fictional.

And since we're into cats:
The other night the news had some story on a coyote stalking a neighborhood that struck me as humorous. It was almost like a manhunt. They had victim photographs, key witnesses, the evidence, and more. A little blip on the guy that got his head cut off, but when it came to a stalking coyote... there was news! A bit sad afterwords since I turned off the tv, heard some nearby howling and then a minute later there was a cat screaching in that low "fight for your life" toned growl/hiss. Hoped nothing happened (I have this giant fear of coyotes and wolves since I was a child so I didn't go out to check at night on the dark street with my half working flashlight), and didn't see anything this morning so hopefully the kitty got away.

ckizer - they proved their point quite well.


JustinK - the 'news' (or rather daily negativity) will spend an eternity on crap. My grandfather got all pissed off cuz someone in another state killed someone's dog in a particularly nasty way (tossed fifi oput the car window I think)...went off on 'how sick society is, and how could they do that...yadda yadda yadda'. Never mind the 200+ people ALSO killed that same day, the 10+ rapes, the 5 old woman beaten for their retirement money, etc.... The poor doggie.

I like animals....but I'll worry more about the fact that the football teams head coaches last fart is top of the news, while the latest enviromental repair job is a quickie mention on the way to comercial. ><

people suck.

Oh, and on a side note to that...Tim McVeigh got lucky....

He got very lucky indead...


See, when he was executed, he got lucky that there wasn't a new coach picked for the Buffalo Bills (which would have drowned out his home town coverage) or that Geo Bush's pet whatever didn't get stuck in a tree (or run over by Al Bore).

He woulda been after the weather....and that would have been a shame....kill 200 people, no biggie...snuff 1 poodle...WOW!!!! Public Enema #1

Between Florida voters and Bonsai Kitten...it almost makes 1 think humanity is too stupid to exist.

Cue Cylons, Daleks and Vogons please....So long and thanks for all the Fish.

:cartman:

Jered Floyd, a recent MIT graduate, says animal rights activists -- who have successfully pressured hosting services to ban bonsaikitten.com until rotten.com offered it server space -- don't have a sense of humor.

Good Luck Getting the site shut down .. even if it is a joke.

I'm so tired of animal rights activists, they are the same people who wear tons of lipstick and makeup products. Not to meantion 99.99% of all cosmetics are made from the the rinds of butchered cows and pigs. Next time you go grocery shopping ask your meet counter who buys all there leftover scraps. You will find that they sell the junk meat buy the ton to large cosmetic companies. All made and tested on animals. I'm not for being cruel to any animals, but they are animals not people.

I do not wear lip stick, ok well at least not in public!!! :) jjk

Originally posted by ckizer
I'm so tired of animal rights activists, they are the same people who wear tons of lipstick and makeup products. I'd venture a guess that you don't know too many animal rights activists. And rich high-society what's-the-trendy-issue-of-the-day types who do no more than write a check to the organization of their choice don't count -- because they know nothing about (why can't I generalize, everybody else is) the issues they claim to "support," they're motivated only by the sad pictures in the glossy direct-mail brochures. Or the evil sick websites.

My longtime real world job was as an IT/list management consultant in the political and electoral sectors. I've met many animal rights activists; most of whom wore no makeup (or confirmed, if they did, that the manufacturer used no animal products or animal testing), most wouldn't even wear leather, most were vegetarians or even vegans.

Originally posted by Duster
It is supposed to represent the rights of all its citizens, even those with poor taste in humor.

Thats the point, but I think you get it wrong. This site is not poor taste. Or would you think child porn is also poor taste? No!
Humor (and of course also poor taste) shall be protected, but not violence in its badest form

ehu

i like it
it is superb:)

i had something to add around page 2 but i got here and hit reply and, well, i forgot what i was going to say.

blar!

p.s. i'm not wearing any underwear! ;)

Originally posted by jonelin
i forgot what i was going to say.
[...]
p.s. i'm not wearing any underwear! ;)
As long as you can say that... well, there's not anything else that needs to be said, as far as I'm concerned.

Or would you think child porn is also poor taste?You know, if anything bothers me about this thread, it's that a few people have equated faked photos of animals in bottles with child pornography. While perhaps you could make that comparison if you were talking about the fictional depiction of children (which in most places is legal), but it's a failed argument that says fictional depictions of confined animals is any way the same as real-life sexual abuse of children.

On another note: Besides, if you're going to buy into the bonsai kitten fiction, you should buy into it completely. They thrive in those bottles! Bonsai kittens are healthy and happy, and live long lives. I read that on a website, so it must be true.

I've been following this thread for quite a while now ...i personally don't have anything against jokes ...but this was a very tasteless & bad one. Anyways, what is funny is that the police launched an investigation against this BonsaiKitten website ...but really isn't doing anything against child pornography.

Check the last reply of this thread:
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12584

To me all life is valid and should be treated with respect, anyone with a kitty(or any other pet) knows they love, hurt play get mad etc just like we do, this wouldnt be such a joke if it was about shaping a child do I think pets and children are equal ....ask my babies Duchass , Marie, Kali, Amber and Charlie oh yeah and my Kids Kristopher , Megan and Erin ;)

*has 2 Yorkshire Terriers* :D i used to have a cat almost 8 years ago, but he died of cancer. :(

Walter,

Jay summed up my feelings well. Humor, even in poor taste, is not abuse and is not comparable to child pornography.

If they were really stuffing cats into jars, then it would be sick. However, it is pictures they put together with PhotoShop(that's a graphics program in case some of you are misunderstanding the issue).

Now considering the pictures are fake, no animals are hurt, etc, etc....why are so many having a hissy fit? As some have mentioned, if you want to do something productive, then concentrate on taking down sites with kddie porn, hate information, etc, etc, instead of worrying about a site with FAKE pictures.

Or tell you what, go have a fit about http://manbeef.com/home.html while your at it...geez...if you thought the kitty thing was sick and real....

webdude, that site is disgusting, it should be shut down INSTANTLY, i dont like it, there should be no more like it, im going on a mission to shut all sites down on the internet i personally disagree with.

i really dont like onions, and i think all sites that advertise onions should be shut down, ALL of them NOW

back to manbeef, imagine the effects on society that site is having, a community of manbeef eaters, ewww, if anybody lets it go on for much longer i dont know what effect it will have on the global community

UTTER FILTH

*if you didnt notice the sarcasm please march to the closest open window, preferably 10 floors high or greater and JUMP*

Disclaimer: I will not be held responsible for any member of the public carrying out my requests as outlined above. :D

Originally posted by xtstrike
i really dont like onions, and i think all sites that advertise onions should be shut down, ALL of them NOWYeah! I've been waiting for a statement like this to come along; something worthy of being quoted in a sig!

It works like this, the same laws that protect the rights of saintinist protect christains too.

You can't have one without the other, if only what you believe was allowed this would be a way f*ed up world...

Its just too bad that a lot of people seem to think only what they like/aprove of should be allowed.

I'm thinking of starting up BONSAI-WEBMASTER.com....

Since a lot of folks here early on seemed to have their heads stuck in a container also, I thought we could make em famous.....Of course, since that container usually isn't transparent, we'll just have to improvise.

On second thought I just remembered an earlier post where alot of folks described themselves. <shudders>

never mind.:D

Originally posted by Kaith Sutai-Rustaz
Its just too bad that a lot of people seem to think only what they like/aprove of should be allowed.

I'm thinking of starting up BONSAI-WEBMASTER.com....

Since a lot of folks here early on seemed to have their heads stuck in a container also, I thought we could make em famous.....Of course, since that container usually isn't transparent, we'll just have to improvise.

On second thought I just remembered an earlier post where alot of folks described themselves. <shudders>

never mind.:D

I dont know about ppls heads in a container but I know where *some* ppls heads are located :eek:

On a platter, surrounded by a nice bed of spinich, lightly drissled with honey-bbq sauce, with a side of fava beans and a nice chiante? <MMmmmmmm>:D


Or, located in the favorite hiding place of the US politician, between the Glutius and the Maximus? :cartman:

Course, some folks say mines so far up there i can see daylight. I always respond "BS...my navels not a window." ;)

As a side note: I'm usually a very easy going guy, but theres a few areas that usually light my fire...Censorship is 1 of the top ones.

In the town where i grew up, Fort Wayne, Indiana, there was a legitimate adult bookstore on broadway street. The local church now known as (Broadway Christian) decided that they should protest this legitimate business owner, because some of their kids walked home that route from school, passing the bookstore. So since this man, who was an upstanding community man (he also made very certian that NO children were even remotely exposed to anything) was apparently so *evil* and had no right to have an adult bookstore where kids walked, the Church community protested outside his store, day and night. Until he was forced to close down because customers could not enter without being harrased.

The irony of this is, Three years later the church bought the building next to the rundown adult bookstore and turned it into the new worship center. After a while they bought the adult bookstore and turned it into the youth center now know as "The Edge". A few years back I did some volunteer helping to restore and remodel this building. While in the basement i found the big red bulb sign that said "Adult Bookstore" on it. It only took a second to sink in what had actually been done here. What they did was dead wrong. To this day I will never forget this lesson.
Pardon my broken sentences, as i was in a hurry :-)

lol... you guys are so uptight, there is humour in it, because it's not realistic, it's a joke, they stuck a kitten in a container, and then let it out.

the whole point in the page is to get a rise out of people, your falling into their joke, your doing what they wanted ;p

Duster....What about the rights of Animals? Shouldnt they have any rights? You talk about human rights and how people have a right to put whatever they wont on there website. If you have a child and someone wanted to put nasty pictures of your child....would you say or think the same way?

Hm, you realized that this is a two year old thread, don't you? Duster (and quite some of the people in this thread) no longer an active participant here any longer :)