I am considering a few hosts for my business....such as Westhost, or Hostgo. Has anyone had any experience with them? Good or bad?

I've been reading some of the horror stories about various hosts at the different sites dedicated to reviews and analysis, and now I'm rather concerned (perhaps overly concerned) about picking the right one.

Thanks for any help you may offer.

Hi Bill,

Quite frankly there is no such thing as being overly concerned about picking the right host. In fact, it's the right attitude to take, considering the number of bad hosts out there.

Westhost offers unlimited bandwidth, but surprisingly enough most of us haven't heard many bad stories about them. Hostgo I don't have any idea about - maybe someone else might be able to help you.

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I've just had a look at Westhost's AUP (which is not available until you reach their secure order form - usually not a good sign). Their definition of unlimited bandwidth is as follows :


WestHost's customers are privileged to be offered unlimited traffic. Unlimited traffic applies to standard web documents (JPEG, GIF and HTML). All other types of files such as (ZIP, MP3, etc.) are subject to 3 GIG of transfer per month. Sites containing paid advertisements, such as banner ads are allowed 6 GIG of transfer per month. Any customer who exceeds this limit will be notified by WestHost to resolve the situation. Extra bandwidth is $10 per GIG.
To maintain the integrity of our service the following limitations apply:
WestHost will be the sole arbiter as to what constitutes a violation of this provision


3/6 GIGs is fairly standard for the plans. However, the term 'standard web documents usually won't count very much for bandwidth unless you serve thousands of customers daily.

It should also be noted that 'Westhost will be the sole arbiter' is extremely vague and leaves plenty of room for them to do what they like if 'suitable' bandwidth is exceeded.

Unfortunately this doesn't really disguise the fact that yet again, here's another example of the mis-usage of the term 'unlimited bandwidth'.
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Could you state what you need (in terms of space, bandwidth, features etc.) and some of us will be able to recommend very good hosts based on your requirements.

Cheers!

[This message has been edited by BC (edited 08-19-2000).]

Hi BC,

Thank you very much for your help here. That's kind of you to delve into Westhost. I actually ran one of those netmechanic 8 hour tests on them and the results were very good. However, according to their AUP you've excerpted, they may not have what I need.

My website will be for promoting an independent movie. It will not be the typical 'read only' press kit type of site that many people do. It will be a bit more interactive. Currently we have about 50 MB of video and audio clips that will be available for download (in Quicktime for video and mp3 for audio, not Real Player). This will probably comprise the largest part of my needed data transfer.

There will be a fun survey for people to take, that when answered the results will be tabulated and a running total of results will be displayed. CGI Bin services needed for this I understand. Survey will be about 20 questions. I don't know how much data transfer this kind of thing uses. Other features will be an indie movie trivia quiz for people to do (but not a CGI Bin situation for this, the way it's being designed, to my knowledge), a guestbook, a sweepstakes people can enter and a mailing list people can join.

I will need mailing list services for both the sweepstakes list and the 'regular' mailing list. Ideally, I'd like to be able to send through the web host's server to these mailing lists, with no limit on how many subscribers I have on these lists. (I've noticed some plans from some hosts limit the number of people on their mailing lists to like 100, which is really ridiculous...)

Lastly, I may have some additional games for people to play, but they've not been designed yet. And I'll need several email accounts besides the mailing list accounts/services. (Preference on email accounts would be that when I'm travelling, I could access these 2-3 email accounts from anywhere and anyone's computer....so "web based" email capability is preferred but not a must. Maybe the alternative here is to have the mail forwarded *to* a web based account when I'm travelling?)

I have no idea of course if my site will "take off." It may, and it may not. But I should host with a company that will be able to handle my growth/traffic, should the site be visited a lot. This is why the "unlimited data transfer" claims have appealed to me. I could always be under 2 Gigs a month, or I could spike up to 5 or 10.

Thanks again for your help. (Sorry for the long description.)

Bill

Hi again Bill,

Thanks for the description. Never mind about it being long - it gives us enough information to make proper recommendations depending on your requirements.

It does seem that your QT/MP3 movies will take up the vast majority of your bandwidth, and this will be a bit difficult to calculate depending on the popularity of your site. Surveys and games won't take up much bandwidth at all, and most hosts will allow you to configure your mailboxes to directly download into your Outlook Express or Eudora, or forward to a web-based e-mail account as required.

Surveys do usually require CGI-Bin, but that's quite a common feature amongst hosts now. Mailing lists usually shouldn't be a problem, but check with the hosts just to make sure.

That all said and done, I'll give you two recommendations straight off the top of my head that allows for generous bandwidth as required :

Below10Host http://www.below10host.com is the host I use at the moment and are very, very good. They're based on the Alabanza network, which maintains excellent uptime and speed. Their technical support is also excellent and knowledgable, and one of the advantages is that you can easily pay monthly and upgrade to the next plan should your bandwidth usage suddenly fluctuate upwards. Other hosts which fall into a similar category as Below10Host include HostMatters (run by the lovely Annette - http://www.hostmatters.com ) , HostCaters ( http://www.hostcaters.com ), and VeoWeb ( http://www.veoweb.net ).

The second host which I'd also recommend to have a look at is Tera-byte http://www.tera-byte.com. They run their own servers (currently around 212 servers on their Canadian network and increasing according to Steve) and offer very generous bandwidth allocations. Their tech support is top-notch and very friendly and I'm moving my sites over to Tera-byte soon to take advantage of their scripting capabilities.

Hope this helps.

[This message has been edited by BC (edited 08-19-2000).]

Hi BC,

Thanks for all the info. I'll look into these hosts.

Regarding the hosts who are on the Alabanza network or lease from Alabanza or someone else, do you feel there's a risk with going with a host that leases server space rather than owns their own servers?

Some people feel it's an added risk since if there are problems, they don't have direct control. Or if business is bad, they could just shut down. Or Alabanza (or whoever) pulling the lease for some reason.

I realize the answer to this is only an opinion, and if I go with a host that owns their own equipment, there's no reason they couldn't go under or sell out either. It's just that once my site is up and running, it will cost me to have to move it, if that were to became necessary.

I am by the way looking at Annette's HostMatters, as I've read some of her posts on the forums, and I know she leases from Alabanza.

What do you think? (If you're reading this, Annette, you're welcome to chime in.)

Bill

Well, Annette?
Sorry Bill couldn't resist.

Bill,

In my humble opinion the reasons that a company would shut down are the same if they lease server space or own their own machines. Therefore, I don't think that you should be afraid to go with someone who leases. The service and stability of the company should not be affected either way. Owning your server does not usually give you any additional control over day to day processes.

If you like the Alabanza setup then colocation is not an option so you have to accept leasing.

I think that it is more important to research hosts thoroughly and choose someone that has been around for a while (one would hope that this would indicate a certain level of stability).

Good luck. :)


Angela
Charity Webspace
(division of WebAuthorities)
http://www.charitywebspace.com

[This message has been edited by angela (edited 08-20-2000).]

[This message has been edited by angela (edited 08-20-2000).]

This must be what I get for wrestling with client issues rather than hanging out around here - lots of stuff to wade through. :)

The issue of whether to go with a host that owns or leases and the risks associated with either is purely a matter of personal preference. There are some hosts who will go under, no matter what, for a variety of reasons: not enough upfront planning in the event there is no profit for awhile, not enough care for the client base, poor business practices or accounting, etc. It's unlikely that a leasing agent will pull a lease without some extreme reason (nonpayment, also cf. the whole True Hosting issue).

I would say it's more likely that the host itself would vanish (cf. jh-hosting.net, which seems to have vanished, and all their files with them), or that a host that just isn't making it would sell a client base (there was a guy on the Alabanza network that did just that in the last couple of months, as I recall). Unfortunately, given the sheer number of hosts out there, sometimes it is more of a crapshoot that it really ought to be.

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Annette
Hosting Matters, Inc.
http://www.hostmatters.com

Thank you all for the feedback!!

Annett mentioned JH-Hosting above, can any one tell me the story behind this host. Anything you guys can tell me would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for getting off topic, but I do not see to many threads that stay on topic, i will start a new tread if this pisses anyone off.

D Originally posted by Davey_J:
[B] My company has NEVER had ANY "unhappy customers". B]

I wanted to see if what you were saying was true all I ever saw was horror stories about you never one good review

example http://www.webhosters.com/web_host_feedback/customer_reviews/index.html?company_id=1337&option=Display+Reviews

And
http://www.hostinvestigator.com/go.asp?page=cgi&script=showreviews&id=109


Im not trying to pick a fight but people new to the board will want to know the truth...I could not find one positive review of your company

Dave, check your mail. Also:
http://www.tips-tricks.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/000344.html
http://www.scriptkeeper.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/001142.html
http://www.freewebspace.net/cgi-bin/forum/paidhosting.pl?read=13455
http://www.freewebspace.net/cgi-bin/forum/paidhosting.pl?read=13423



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Annette
Hosting Matters, Inc.
http://www.hostmatters.com

Do you actually believe that is accurate?

What you have read is the fraud committed by the scum. It is not true, and that is obvious.

How come my company built up a customer base of over 2500 very happy clients before we sold out? Explain that. The whole reason we set up True Hosting was to provide the very best quality web hosting, and we achieved this very quickly and set new standards of quality.

"annette"'s fraudulent operation has NO customers and NO users. It is a farce.

Look scumface,

If you have got something to say about True Hosting then say it out loud. Alabanza never pulled a lease from us - WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT?? Back up your claims or prepare to be taken to face the consequences of your lies.

My company always paid its bills on time with no problem. It is YOU that is having trouble paying Alabanza and that is why they are putting pressure on you and threatening to shut you down. They also will not tolerate your fraudulent activities.

If you are going to mention True Hosting or myself then prepare to face some serious questions and facts.

BEWARE OF HOSTINGMATTERS!!! IT IS A ONE-MAN OPERATION AND CARRIES OUT FRAUDULENT ACTIVITES.

Hey Davey,

I've seen your posts here, and it's not my intention to get into a flame war with you, but why don't you just let the issue die? If I hadn't seen your warring with people, I'd of never known who you were. And since you don't run True Hosting anymore, what difference does it make?

Either you enjoy constantly fighting with people in forums (which frankly, is indicative of mental imbalancing), or you really are messed up. I suppose a third possibility is you enjoy trying to hurt people's reputations (which is also indicative of mental imbalancing), whether they deserve it or not. And if they do deserve it, who are you to be God and the executioner?

I've read all about you all over the internet now from *numerous* sources/web sites. You really should just let this end, and be happy that none of your unhappy customers have actually paid you a visit, which I suppose they could do, now that you've listed your address for the world to see.

You must have better things to do with your time.

The moment scumbag mentioned myself or True Hosting I am going to make sure people know she is a lying fraudster.

What you have "read" is the result of the scum's fraudulent lies and deception. My company has NEVER had ANY "unhappy customers". If anyone here has a problem and wants to visit me then they are free to do so. If they want to file a lawsuit then they can go ahead.

I have repeatedly challened scumface to file a lawsuit against me if she believes anything I have said about her shady and fraudulent deals are even slightly false. It is obvious that she knows what I am saying is true.

How about it Annette? Up to the challenge?

Ok - i know it's a stupid question question but here goes - Davey when are you going to give up making a fool out of yourself?. There is not a single person in this forum or any other forum i know of that beleives a word you say about hostmatters it's time you acted your age.

Originally posted by Davey_J:
"annette"'s fraudulent operation has NO customers and NO users. It is a farce.

Ummm well now I know thats not true I have 2 active domains with her and 2 parked with active email and my friend emily has a domain with her...shes been fast to answer my questions she has been fast to set up my parked domains/w email. She may be a small company but thats not a bad thing its actually a good thing I as a client am not lost in a sea of auto responders where no one knows me or what my needs are.

Davey when I first came here and saw your posts there is such anger such rage in them it makes one want to look into the situation which I did. If you can produce links like I have to happy clients Id read them.

When you post your rage and name calling it only proves the points of your "un happy clients"

ok on to other things :P

THANK YOU Once again Annett, you have refreshed my memory, and have provided me with the information I need I can not believe you can remember all of that. You are sharp and a asset to this board and others as well. Thank You

Some people would call Annette a Geek but i'd say shes technically Gifted :).

"produce links like I have to happy clients Id read them".

What are you rambling about? How can anyone "link to clients"??

Our company never had ANY unhappy clients. Period. If you want to say otherwise then provide your full name and address and prepare to face the consequences.

FlashTechnics - Strange how I have STILL not received any invoice from you, even after asking many times and you claiming to have sent it many times.

Davey - thats because i've moved on i don't a have a problem with you anymore because you have shown your a worthless peice of garbage a* and thats an insult to garbage *. I'm too busy working on REAL CLIENTS websites and making a volunteer webhost which one person remaining nameless unless they wish to come forward from this forum will be helping with and also some of the people who were involed with fthosting. Unlike you i've moved on but if your desperate for the invoice ill type it out again and send you it.

And i was an unhappy TRUEHOSTING CLIENT - my name address can be obtained via email or doing a whois check on flashtechnics.com :P.

[This message has been edited by FlashTechnics (edited 08-20-2000).]

No you were NOT an unhappy True Hosting client. You failed to pay your bills on time and after repeated reminders and warning we cut you off for non-payment.

IF YOU CANNOT AFFORD WEB HOSTING THEN YOU SHOULD NOT BE ON THE INTERNET. GO BACK TO THE GUTTER.

lol i was there for 11 days of hell - and i got 1 invoice when i first joined and refused to pay i wont deny that fact. not my problem you kept the account open afeter i closed it.

I REFUSED TO PAY that make you happy davey, Well i'm going to work on a website todo with headaches now, havefun ranting and raving. i'm going to get webnetics to point fthosting back to everyone.net and get the emails you sent me and send them to annette, let the world know your an even bigger fool.

Davey, you truly are funny you know that right?

You never sold out, I know that for a fact, burst offered you a % of profits for 1 year and you took it because you were going UNDER!

Stupid SOB I doubt you'll ever learn, Thats ok though, I have a trip planned to the UK for later this year and your my first stop.

Sincerely
Daniel Pearson~

Davey,

You are a complete moron. How old are you? (I'll bet you're still a teenager {no offense to the teenagers out there who *are* mature}).

Dana is simply telling you if you *really* had happy clients, prove it. Give us links to pages where your customers are raving about how good you say you are, so that we can read them. All you do is say you're good and that others suck, yet you don't BACKUP your statements with PROOF that your customers liked you, or PROOF that one of the hosts here is under investigation, as you claim. Given you're in England, how the hell would you know anyways?

If someone here is really under investigation, provide the name of the agency that is conducting such investigation, and the name(s) of the lead investigator(s), along with a telephone number. This would be *extremely* easy to do, if it's true. At least here in the USA.

You know, I came across an article about a 14 year old here in the US that was running a bad webhosting business and getting away with it for a while. Are you that person's twin brother?

Daniel - You have no clue what you are talking about. How could our company possibly be "going under"?? Do the math, it is impossible. Burst (a successful web host) approached US and made an offer. I am not going to provide you with any details of how much this was - it is not your business. If you wish to visit me then go ahead. Be sure to visit your 16-year-old "business associate" at UltraSpeed UK in his bedroom, won't you?

Flashtechnics - Your reseller business went under when you could not afford to pay your hosting bills to us. You NEVER cancelled your account, you were shut down.

Bill - I do not need to prove anything to you. I do not have a twin, thanks.

My Reseller business didnt actually, I continued with webnetics for a further 3 months, I got a job at bradford council and closed down. I am now opening again using someone elses server as he gave me a very good deal. So party piss pops on you * you should understand that all the kids on the streets are saying that now*


Flashtechnics - Your reseller business went under when you could not afford to pay your hosting bills to us. You NEVER cancelled your account, you were shut down.

Originally posted by Dave:
THANK YOU Once again Annett, you have refreshed my memory, and have provided me with the information I need I can not believe you can remember all of that. You are sharp and a asset to this board and others as well. Thank You

Hey, anytime. Helping each other out is what it's all about, right?


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Annette
Hosting Matters, Inc.
http://www.hostmatters.com

Originally posted by Annette:
Hey, anytime. Helping each other out is what it's all about, right?




Yup it is! :) I didnt even read any of his posts after I said "on to other things"...and I dont intend to. Ive been busy finding a program to read my raw logs...Annette was very helpful *G* Im big into freeware Annette showed me the reason I couldnt read my archived log files was because my unzip program didnt support that extention(Duh LOL) and she showed me one that would.

Which is much more productive than fighting with a person who is one of the most angry people Ive ever had the chance to come across.

Now leaving allll of this Crap aside anyone know of a good raw log reading program? Im using OpenWebScope its ok but is there better?

Originally posted by FlashTechnics:
*So party piss pops on you *


*GASP* Im laughing so hard I have tears!! hehehehehehehe...ohhh my that was well put! :)

Glad somebody liked it lol

Originally posted by Dana:
*GASP* Im laughing so hard I have tears!! hehehehehehehe...ohhh my that was well put! :)

http://surfstats.com

Originally posted by Dana:
Which is much more productive than fighting with a person who is one of the most angry people Ive ever had the chance to come across.

Are you referring to me? I am certainly not angry about anything - what reason would I have to be angry??

Davey, Peter or whoever you are today: You (and your multiple personalities) need to seek professional help because you're starting to believe your own lies. Your problem with Annette is that she is telling the truth which you are allergic to. She is also everything that you'll never be: honest, intelligent and competent. Just remember that knowledge is power and the internet community will be very vigilant in making sure that you crawl back under your rock anytime that you slither out and attempt to "TRULY HOSE" anyone again. I got nothing but grief from your "company" - poor service, nasty emails and subsequent credit card fraud when I couldn't cancel. The only way that I got your thieving clutches out of my pocket was through my card carrier and Ibill - remember them? You are most certainly the internet version of "Jack the Ripper". The only difference is that informed users know who you are. I am certain that you will spew out some ignorant childish response to this so I won't waste further space by replying. I just had to throw my two cents in after dealing with you and seeing your rantings and ravings here. Heck, I'm lucky to even have two cents after dealing with the likes of you.

Dear Loser,

You have never been a customer of my company. I don't know what you are talking about when you say "TRULY HOSE", maybe you have some kind of mental problem. I also do not have multiple personalities.

Crawl back under your rock, loser.

I felt I had to write a word here...
Dana- try webalizer found at http://www.webalizer.com
its free and works pretty well to analyze http and ftp logs. (maybe some other as well, I'm not sure)

Davey- If you were so good and that Anette created it all... she really had you, didn't she? how does it feels to know that an old customer is having more success than you?

I know I know, she doesn't have 2500 customers. I doubt you had them as well, seeing how many people never paid, how many you are sueing for non-payment, the time BurstNET took to rebuild your customer database...

One point that I feel need to go through.
the size of a company does NOT mean that:
- It is succesfull
- It's customers are happy
- It is the best in the world and everyone else suck.

Now... I know you are proud of yourself for whatever you did, but you should feel already that most people here don't want to see you at all. If you are investigating on anette or anyone else, we REALLY do not care about it. Please do it silently.

Please stop harassing ANYONE on this board
Please stop coming here, since you seems to hate/love it so much.

If you still find anything to say against me or my company... you can do so. I have not, and will never say anything against you. I am simply and purely stating my observation on this type of conversation/board.

Enjoy everybody... that was my first and hopefully last post about this issue.

Oh... I still can't stop laughing at your next to last post when you say you are not angry davey... very spiritual.

:) cheers!


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Félix C.Courtemanche . Head Designer
Co-Administrator . Can-Host Networks
http://www.can-host.com
webmaster@can-host.com

Felix, as much as I appreciate the vote of confidence (and I would add "...2500 customers"..yet :)), please remember that he is a troll is the truest sense of the word. I ask, for the sanity of everyone here, that people don't respond to him. As I've said before, he simply shows exactly what he is every time he posts - and it doesn't take a genius to figure out that he has no point. He likes to shout into canyons to hear his own voice. Let him do it - we can treat it like distant murmurs on the wind.

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Annette
Hosting Matters, Inc.
http://www.hostmatters.com

I thought I heard someone break wind.

Hmm. I guess reasonable discourse just isn't the cards with you - although, to be honest, given our past experiences with TH, I should have expected nothing else.

BTW, the mention of providers refers to your ever-changing IP address.

Ah well. Back into the killfile with you.

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Annette
Hosting Matters, Inc.
http://www.hostmatters.com

2500 customers paying $90 a year and unhappy aren't as valuable as 1000 customers paying $275 a year and extremely happy, so customer count really doesn't mean a whole heck of a lot in-and-of itself. SO if Annette has 1000, they are worth well more than Davey's 2500.

marksy - What are you talking about?? True Hosting customers paid a lot more than $90/year and were extremely happy. Annette does not have ANY customers, never mind a thousand. She never will have, either. In her entire life she will not be able to get half that many.

Felix - "If you were so good and that Anette created it all... she really had you, didn't she? how does it feels to know that an old customer is having more success than you?"

She is not having ANY success. I created a highly successful business and recently sold out. This benefits ME, not her.

"I know I know, she doesn't have 2500 customers. I doubt you had them as well, seeing how many people never paid, how many you are sueing for non-payment, the time BurstNET took to rebuild your customer database..."

Yes, my company did have 2500 customers. That is why it took BurstNET a while to integrate them into their own database.

Read: ANNETTE IS A FRAUD. SHE IS UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR MANY CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES.

Scumbag - If this is untrue then SUE ME!

You know, I do have a question for you, "Davey", in all seriousness: why do you insist on continuing this charade? It's obvious that neither I nor the company is under investigation for anything at all (easily verified by a few quick checks, since in the US things like that are public record) and that obviously we are growing the business (partially thanks to you, I imagine, since everybody wants to know exactly why you're such a rabid dog about this - and when they find no truth to your statements, they are most happy to sign up). I also find it hyprocritical of you to insist that everybody else provide evidence of their claims (which they have done, numerous times) and yet you consider yourself above providing evidence for your claims when prompted for it. It's a rather self-serving hypocrisy, but since that is the way you comport yourself, I suppose we shouldn't be too surprised.

I guess it boils down to the fact that I provided the main depository for both ours and others' experiences with TH, and if it had been someone else, then you would be harassing them the same way you are harassing us (and me personally). I know you have no idea what further damage you're doing to your own reputation, since your ego won't let you see it, but it's a rather shameful state to live only for trolling various forums when it's obvious you have nothing of substance to offer beyond these types of messages. Doesn't it bother you to see that people think much, much less of you because of the things you say without verifiable evidence, particularly when it's obvious you simply have a grudge against me? Wouldn't you feel better actually contributing something productive to this forum?

Think about this - right now, you're simply driving traffic to our site and helping us. This is the primary reason that no suit has been filed as of yet, although you are indeed maliciously attempting to damage our reputation. When people see you rant like this, and see others' replies rebutting you, and see the relative contributions that those participants of the forum (and myself) make - well, hands down, they dismiss you as simply a net.kook, and people have indicated as much to us when signing up.

So how about it? Are you up to civil conversation, or will you simply continue in the mode to which we've all become accustomed? If the former, it would be a nice change of pace. If the latter - well, I guess we'll all go on ignoring the things you say, continuing threads around you, and generating complaints to each provider to which you move.

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Annette
Hosting Matters, Inc.
http://www.hostmatters.com

[This message has been edited by Annette (edited 08-24-2000).]

Scumface,

I think it is clear to everyone what a pathetic piece of scum you really are.

"and generating complaints to each provider to which you move." WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU EVEN RAMBLING ABOUT??

I am not moving providers, and never have done. WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE COMPLAINING TO?? AND ABOUT WHAT??

If you actually believed I was lying about what a scumbag you are then you would have filed a lawsuit by now. I have challeneged you, but it is obvious you have no means to do so.

AVOID HOSTING MATTERS - SCAM!!

Lifes harsh isn't it davey?.


Originally posted by Annette:
Hmm. I guess reasonable discourse just isn't the cards with you - although, to be honest, given our past experiences with TH, I should have expected nothing else.

BTW, the mention of providers refers to your ever-changing IP address.

Ah well. Back into the killfile with you.

Davey,

I have only been watching this board for a couple of weeks, but I can already see that Annette is the honest one in your little (one-sided) feud. Let me try to explain why I can see this.

1. Annette offers good, reliable advice to people on various situations. You can email her and ask questions and she gets right back to you. But Davey, you only speak up when you have something bad to say about Annette and her company.

2. I have heard from many HostMatters clients who are very happy. I have heard from many former TH clients who were miserable at your service, but none who were happy.

3. Annette backs up what she has to say with facts and reason. But even when you are asked for your "proof" you cannot/will not provide any.

Why can't you just help people when they have questions about something rather than painting your graffiti all over these boards! After just two weeks here, I already know to just skip over your posts - that is, unless I want to laugh at how stupid you are being about this whole thing.

Annette: You are doing great things here. Thanks for all of your help!

Davey: You might as well keep your comments to yourself - they usually don't get ready anyway!

Just a good old-fashioned spanking.

LoL

Originally posted by What Davey Needs:
Just a good old-fashioned spanking.

"Just a good old-fashioned spanking."

Yeah, with a heavy chain...

Hmmmmm...... Someone know of a dominatrix around here who specialises in tantalising whippings? :D

LOL :)

Actually, maybe what Davey really wants IS a spanking. He's probably a masochist, in which case, we *don't want* to satisfy him with a spanking or punishment as this gets him off... :)

I think public caning would be a wonderful means of bringing a little more respect into people's online dealings. What do we say? Can Davey present himself at a time when we can all log on so we can watch his hosting heinie get the medieval treatment?

For your information, Davey, I'm a newby who would have no opinion over the whole TrueHosting debacle except that throughout every BB I have read you have been unremittingly rude and Annette has been a veritable angel. Should I even end up needing virtual hosting, you can bet it would be with her, and for no other reason than the way she has comported herself on this board and others like it.

Originally posted by BC
Hmmmmm...... Someone know of a dominatrix around here who specialises in tantalising whippings? :D

Umm, actually I do *blush* :) She'd probably just go and kill him outright though...

Akashik, if you're awaiting your password, just go to the 'Profiles' page and hit 'Forget your password?' and enter your e-mail address again. That should see the p/w sent out to you and fix the problem.

I have to give my 2 cents about the Davey_J saga. I have had no dealings with either one (davey or annette), being new here, but I have no doubt about which hosting solution I will go with....

Talk to you soon annette.

Gilmour.



'Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot'

I guess Davey is hiding behind his webserver again. The one that is none existant. I wander if davey has imangineary clients. Maybe his invisable clients thinks that annette is a frad. That or his invisable friends. Im sure he needs them since he has alot of real emenys.

Hey BTW Davey the board that you are posted on right now is part of annettes frad server. I guess annette is such a frad that these forums can't even stay up? Not! Just thought that I would tell you since you think annette has no clients :).

Originally posted by BC
Akashik, if you're awaiting your password, just go to the 'Profiles' page and hit 'Forget your password?' and enter your e-mail address again. That should see the p/w sent out to you and fix the problem.

BC,

Umm yeah thanks. You may have seen my post in general called 'blushing like a schoolgirl' Thankfully since waking up the hamster in my head and getting him back on the wheel all is good and I have my password back :)

Akashik :

This is all I have to say.

*chortle* *hack* *gasp* *cough*

:D

Maybe Davey's mum won't let him play on the computer today eh?