We currently offer very good packages (http://www.kelmhosting.com/packages.html) but if you order package #1 you get 20gig and if you order package #2 you get 30gig! That's a extra 10gig!

We open on Monday, possbily earlyer..
We are also looking for staff, want to be one post in the forum: http://www.kelmnetwork.com/phpBB/
the FORUM BUTTON ON the kelmhosting.com page DOES NOT WORK! only on the kelmnetwork website does it work..

Also: if you want to sign up or have questions tell us in the forum ( again- http://www.kelmnetwork.com/phpBB/) under KelmHosting >> General

what about sub-domains and stuff?

You have nothing special......
Do you support
ASP and JSP?

Goodluck, you don't seem to have very supportive comments in your forum.. :( http://www.kelmnetwork.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=3&forum=1&10

I'm a moderator at freewebspace.net (along with Chicken) and we've run into Alex - the owner of KelmHosting quite a bit over the last year now. He was 12 year old when we first ran into him last fall -- he said he was older and then we found out otherwise -- we banned him because he didn't have permission from his parents to be on the board (COPPA). Before we found out his real age, he had several *websites* up and running, and he had vBulletin running on one of this sites...and I reported him because I highly doubted that it was legitament.

Anyways...
Supposively he's 13 now...

Buyer beware...

http://www.freewebspace.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6508

Just had to put my 2 cents in.

he reminds me of alex russo who is 13 and runs free webhosting at http://www.russoweb.com/
check out the staff page
maybe it is him:confused:

OK, Im just going to say, dont flame this thread, i know KelmNetworks sucks and its probably not even worth trying to explain why, its on a cobalt server, its on a cobalt server with an un-finished web site, so unfinished that i actually managed to gain access to the default login pages, it prompted me for a username and password, all this was done with point and click, nothing special.
the site is about 2% complete and based upon the forum which he has put up and started altering posts which speak negatively about the service.
the server has been up just over TWO days, and was actually probably only turned on 2 days ago.

Alex (Kelm) I urge you to re-think your web hosting initiative before comming on here and attempting to sell an obviously unfinished service.
Please post your site on the "Critics" forum and you will probably find many people complain about it as it is totally un-finished.

and to answer peoples questions on his behalf, the server supports everything a default Cobalt RaQ server configuration supports since im not aware that its been changed at all.

Yes its the same alex, lol!

Originally posted by creepcolony
he reminds me of alex russo who is 13 and runs free webhosting at http://www.russoweb.com/
check out the staff page
maybe it is him:confused:

Perl? telnet? email? domain hosting? FTP? SSI? FP2000? Static IP?

OK couple things:

I'm not some Alex russo or whatever..

SSI/PERL/ 10 Subdomains

BTW: we'r enot even open yet!
WE OPEN on MONDAY!! so how can you expect acompleted site

Alex, if the site isn't finished yet, why post a link to the site? Normally I wouldn't get involved in this, I don't know why some of these posts were approved, but I'm on vacation and barely get a chance to look at the queue.

I did however catch a thread in your forum that leads me to believe this is nothing short of a disaster in the making.

http://www.kelmnetwork.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=13&forum=10&1

Staff:
Owner: Alex
Co-Owner: None! Click Here To Apply!

Alex, Why would you want to get into so much responsibility at such young age? Do you understand that you will have to provide a secure environment and good support for everyone that signs up with you? That people will actually be trusting you with their websites (some might even have very important files). You should be concentrating on getting an education and having fun with you friends. You will have a lot of time later to play a business man, trust me. You'll never be 13 (?) again.

I really hope you know what you're getting yourself into.

I thought I would give my opinion on this. Now I do not think a 13 year old should be running a company. I have seen others try doing stuff like this and it does not workout. There is more to running a buissness then just knowing how to run the technical part. There are legal issues up the wazoo. Are you incorperated? Do you realize what could happen if you are under 18 and get sued and not incorperated? I not saying dont do it, just think about this a lot. At your age studying is key. I started using computers a lot in 5th grade, and I started hard studing all through high school. Now I am just starting my company. Also think about the responsibility that you are taking on. You are trusting your comany to host buissness sites(if one signs up). A buissness is in your hands. I just think you should re think doing this. Good luck

Some personal comments on the site.
1. Remove the co-owner part. That made me think that this is not very profesional service. Change it to "Partnering" or say we are looking for talented people, just dont say you are looking for a co-owner

^^ That is all just personal opinion, Im sure some might dissagree with me.

2. If you do keep it, change the part were you ask questions, the part about the age, you may want to remove that

^^ That is all just personal opinion, Im sure some might dissagree with me.

Sorry for some repeates with the previous post, I did not read that one.

If you want to run a website try running a gaming website where you can drop it anytime you want without getting into so much responsibility.

Take a look at a few of mine
www.bandwzone.com
www.dnfzone.com
www.hwuniverse.com

Eh... I don't know about you guys, or any potential customers, but this in itself is a little red flag waving back and forth to me:

# nslookup kelmhosting.com
Name: kelmhosting.com
Address: 216.12.210.4

# nslookup 216.12.210.4
Name: np-dsl-216-12-210-4.ev1.net
Address: 216.12.210.4

Sure, he could be running just his hosting website off a dsl connection (for some odd reason, maybe in case the real web server goes down?), but is he running the web server he's planning to put customers on off that dsl connection as well? Is it a reliable dsl connection? Most likely this is at his home, so does he have adequate power protection?

To me, when I see a host's website on a dsl connection potentially selling accounts on that same connection, it just makes me think "stay away."

But that's just me. :)

The question now is it sdsl or xdsl. There are some big differences in it, including price. Also I have done free webhosting over sdsl, it has been nothing but good. Its 1.1 mbit, and cause its free webhosting with all the pirated software, my line is maxed at it about 24/7. It has never once been down and it always is able to hit its max speed.

Well... it would almost explain how he can sell bandwdith for $.10/gig.

buyer beware, as chicken said check out his plan and you'll see why

according to his profile it states:Birthday January 28th, 1988


so he's pretty young

he's like 12 1/2 years old

I dont think it would. That is just really bad judgment. Anyone can sell a gig for 10 cents on a dedicated line, and really not loose money(I mean by the cost per gig), just loose a whole lot of bandwidth with very little money made in the prosess. So if he stays up more then a month and some people acually start going 10-15 gig over the limit at 10 cents a gig, he will realize his line tapped and with no money.

Can I say something about kids and businesses? Well I will anyway (unless the mods (err, the gods) stop me :D ) Anywho.....I am 15 and I design webpages. I don't produce crap like a lot of kids do and say it's good. The nice thing about design is that I can do it during the summer........but hosting is a year round comitment that takes A LOT of time that should be used studying!!! There are some very fun and nice jobs for kids our age to do but a yearround comitment like hosting is just too much!!

That said, it's time for my nappy pie! ;)

OK, first, it looks like they are hosting at RackShack http://www.kelmnetwork.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=25&forum=1&1. Secondly, as it was stated above, I would stay away from this. At 13 year old can not enter into a contract in the US. As soon as RackShack finds out that Alex is 13, I'm guessing they will drop his account.

Pita

Originally posted by pita
OK, first, it looks like they are hosting at RackShack http://www.kelmnetwork.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=25&forum=1&1.

Forum has been wiped clean.

We the thread said that they would be using RackShack's name servers.

But the fact that they wiped the forums would make me nervous also.

Pita

And his packages have disappeared :confused:

More like the entire site disappeared....

omg this is such a joke

look like we scared them away from bad business practices.......or business at all :)

lol, and dogma i agree with you 100% +

Kindest Regards,
ValuableHost

The server is in his mum and dads name so the server wouldnt be shut down for being an underage customer.

Originally posted by KelmNetwork
We currently offer very good packages (http://www.kelmhosting.com/packages.html) but if you order package #1 you get 20gig and if you order package #2 you get 30gig! That's a extra 10gig!

We open on Monday, possbily earlyer..
We are also looking for staff, want to be one post in the forum: http://www.kelmnetwork.com/phpBB/
the FORUM BUTTON ON the kelmhosting.com page DOES NOT WORK! only on the kelmnetwork website does it work..

Also: if you want to sign up or have questions tell us in the forum ( again- http://www.kelmnetwork.com/phpBB/) under KelmHosting >> General

Another celebrity for a day gone down the drain. As of today, this website turns out a UNKNOWN HOST response.

Too many wanna-be scammers like this guy trying to make a quick buck out of his hosting scheme. I can't believe that a hosting company like Kelm-whatever couldn't fork over a couple hundred bucks to buy vBulletin instead of using a free one like phpBB. It's easier to hack the latter too.

Just a couple of things:

I don't understand why you guys care what age I am, it doesnt mean i can run a successful business.

I uploaded my page for kelmhosting.com and i think it looks ALOT more nicer.

View kelmhosting.com/staff.html technis .. nc_tom.. robert.. i got alot of good people working here for me..

Hi,

I'm on the staff of KelmHosting, and I can assure everyone that we're coming back. Alex changed some DNS information and we should have everything back up and running by 5:00 EST today. We've got things under control.

There's no need to look down on our company. Alex is not the only person working hard on things; there are several other experienced web developers, including myself, working at KelmHosting. Alex only has homeschool for 1 hour/day which leaves him with enough time to run the hosting company.

hmm, it does indeed seem that kelm is dead as a drowning duck having consumed a litre of vodka and recently struck by several bolts of lightening following a shot to the rear end by a local farmer.

:D :cool: :D

It's true, the age does not make a difference. I just hope that you can offer a good service and take care of your customers.

PS. You should check your index file, when I click the links in your menu it wants me to save them on my hard drive.

Originally posted by xtstrike
hmm, it does indeed seem that kelm is dead as a drowning duck having consumed a litre of vodka and recently struck by several bolts of lightening following a shot to the rear end by a local farmer.

:D :cool: :D

I think moderators must be more polite

as we know they are moderators not destroyers


they must be more porfessional than us

I agree age should not make or break a company, though sometimes experience and wizdom gained from living awhile can do wonders for a companies growth and it's clients. The hosting business is a sensitive one, if your clients and perspective customers lose their confidence in you and your services, your done...

you get homeschooled for only 1 hour a day? :eek: I feel sorry for you!! :(

Anywho, age does matter when running a business like hosting. You should really be focusing on your education more the hosting (and I'm not talking 'bout Hosting education!!). I am a student too, and trust me, as much as school sucks, you need it.

Make sure your firewalls are working.

Originally posted by zolbian
It's true, the age does not make a difference. I just hope that you can offer a good service and take care of your customers.

r u shure of this?
I think that is incorrect. Because a 12 years old kind is not emotionaly stable. A kid have tendencies to distract itself.
Come on guys! we're talking about 12 years old! not 16 or 17.. 12! don't u remember how are you at that age?

onlyreal, I tend to agree with you on this point, although may I add that this host is going through more than its fair share of problems and i simply thought i would point this out in a humorous manner.

Sorry if I offended anybody

It seems their website has been reset and they may be in the process of rebuilding it, their phpBB is not running yet as it seems it needs to be properly configured.

if KelmHosting are there, id recommend you test your server and get it up and running for a month or more and ensure you are happy with the provider before offering commercial services.

Id also ensure you post your web site in the Critics section, as i mentioned earlier, and allow people to review your services before offering them publicly.

Good Luck

Well I think it has now moved from "unrealistic" to "insane". Check out the Kelm Hosting home page (http://www.kelmhosting.com/index.php). Now in addition to shared hosting, there are going to offer dedicated RAQ's!

$150/month with a $250 setup fee? Humm... Do you think they are going to buy a server at rackshack and then just turn around and re-sell it.

Originally posted by pita
Well I think it has now moved from "unrealistic" to "insane". Check out the Kelm Hosting home page (http://www.kelmhosting.com/index.php). Now in addition to shared hosting, there are going to offer dedicated RAQ's!

$150/month with a $250 setup fee? Humm... Do you think they are going to buy a server at rackshack and then just turn around and re-sell it.
LOL!!!!!!
This is too much for me.
I leave this thread.

Don't you all think this is getting a little out of hand? I thought the advertising forums became moderated so we would not have to see things like this happen to a companies advertisement. I also thought moderator(s) were supposed to stop this kind of behavior and not become part of it.

pita, even if they are going to re-sell a server from rackshack, so what? What's so insane about that? If you don't like their services then don't sign up with them. There is no need to call it insane and put them down infront of everyone else.

Jedito, this is funny isn't it? I wonder how funny you would think it would be if/when something like this happen to you and your company.

There is nothing wrong with being 12 and wanting to start a company. Offcourse, you have higher odds against you, but that does not mean you're not going to be able to offer a good service. I have seen 30-40 year olds being more unprofessional than teenagers.

Now if you think it's wrong for him to start a company, fine! Try talking to him and explaining why you feel that way and give him some examples or other things he can do instead of jumping him.

Do you all realise that you're attacking a 12 year old? I'm sure some of you have families and even children. How would you feel if someone was doing this to your children or little brother/sister?

Maybe I'm not the right person to say this, but enough is enough!

I'm not trying to be rude or anything but you offer SSL - do you have an SSL cert? I tried accessing https://www.kelmhosting.com and nothing happened.

Originally posted by zolbian
Don't you all think this is getting a little out of hand? I thought the advertising forums became moderated so we would not have to see things like this happen to a companies advertisement. I also thought moderator(s) were supposed to stop this kind of behavior and not become part of it.

pita, even if they are going to re-sell a server from rackshack, so what? What's so insane about that? If you don't like their services then don't sign up with them. There is no need to call it insane and put them down infront of everyone else.

Jedito, this is funny isn't it? I wonder how funny you would think it would be if/when something like this happen to you and your company.

There is nothing wrong with being 12 and wanting to start a company. Offcourse, you have higher odds against you, but that does not mean you're not going to be able to offer a good service. I have seen 30-40 year olds being more unprofessional than teenagers.

I'm sorry, but I think that you're loosing the picture.
He have 12 years. He can't legaly have a hosting company. and I REPEAT he have only 12 years!!
I'm not atacking he as a person. I'm telling that a 12 years old kid just CAN'T run this kind of bussines.
I'm not saying that Alex is an idiot and nothing like this.
And he isn't even a teenager he have 12. Come on Zolbian, be serius. Is nothing against the person. It's against a non possible bussines.

I may have been a little harsh in this thread and maybe should not have got involved, BUT the point still stands that this person, whatever age or whatever qualifications does not have a stable service yet.

There are various problems with the web site configuration and service of the web site, there are many un-finished sections of the site and also a small supply of access failures to both sites.

Originally posted by benw
I'm not trying to be rude or anything but you offer SSL - do you have an SSL cert? I tried accessing https://www.kelmhosting.com and nothing happened.
At least with thawte you must be older than 18 years and proof the ownership of the domain to get the Cert.

:confused:

Originally posted by xtstrike
I may have been a little harsh in this thread and maybe should not have got involved, BUT the point still stands that this person, whatever age or whatever qualifications does not have a stable service yet.

There are various problems with the web site configuration and service of the web site, there are many un-finished sections of the site and also a small supply of access failures to both sites.

I totally understand where you're coming from. They did advertise a product that is not yet completet and that is not the best thing to do for your business. On the other hand, I can also understand that he must have been pretty excited about getting a new site up and couldn't wait to share it (come'on, he's 12 :D ).

My point is, those things could have been pointed out without putting them down (*).

* This is in general and not pointed towards anyone specific.

i'm 18 and as long as your mature and loyal to your customers there shouldn't be a problem, it depends on how good you are, not really the age part cause an adult can be more immature than a teen.

http://www.kelmhosting.com/index.php?src=status.php probably is just fake also and not realtime

As per moderators decision, this thread has been closed.

KelmHosting is still welcome on the board, may we ask that you submit a completed service once you have your problems ironed out.

If you would like assistance on what you would like to offer and some reasonable pricing structures then please dont hesitate to add a new thread along these lines to the appropriate forum.

I feel you may be able to offer a great service once you have the systems in place and the sites completed.

Good Luck For The Future