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ebird
06-17-2001, 10:02 PM
When lexton.net did a promotion here, I got an account. I couldn't access my domain from last night and got the below message when I went to lexton.net.

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Whoops, looks like you caught us at a bad time..

We are no longer providing web hosting for new clients, for the moment. We will however, continue to service old clients. Otherwise, the following domains are for sale to anyone interested.

Please email tony@lexton.net with any offers. We will need at least $200 for all of them.

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If lexton sells its domains, how could it be possible that he continues the hosting service for old clients?

A lesson from this: Go with a hosting company with good reputation and longer history.

ebird

Globalink
06-17-2001, 10:13 PM
Interesting...

have a look at this post

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12998

Chicken
06-18-2001, 12:38 AM
Seems he just wants a stable part/full time gig and wants to go a different route than the hosting thing, though he isn't going to bail on the old customers. Did you try emailing him?

vibesolutions
06-18-2001, 01:17 AM
nothing on there now..

ebird
06-18-2001, 01:28 AM
I sent him a message about 10 hours ago, but no reply. That's understandable because it's Sunday.

Something bothered me was: My site is not accessable and there was no notice from lexton. Now it seems I will lost the entire site. I forgot the backup the database, and now I hope to have a chance to get it.

ebird

vibesolutions
06-18-2001, 08:06 AM
I talked to him last night, his aim s/n is lextonnet. So he was on sunday :) and he said he'll continue service for his current customers.

klisis
06-18-2001, 09:17 AM
But if I were you, I wouldn't feel alright....

Chas
06-18-2001, 09:57 AM
I got a free account from Tony a few weeks ago when he ran that special here. I have not been able to get to it for the last few days either. I e-mailed him but no response yet. I tried to access the account by IP and it appears to be gone. It would have been nice if they would of let us get the files from the server before they deleted the accounts. I know the account was free but still.. an e-mail would have been nice.

Regards,
Chas

TonyGM
06-18-2001, 08:15 PM
Hey everyone.

The real scoop is that i'm only 18 years old, and i've suddenly become EXTREMELY un-interested in the computer environment.. (new girlfreind, new hair style :P) Anyways, all Lexton clients are going to be merged with INIHosting.com, who use the same dedicated server roots as Lexton, and I will be working for INIHosting from now on.

Anyone with a free account was lost.. because I didnt pay my dedicated server bill on the server the free accounts were on :( what can I say.. gas is expensive. I have worked it out with burst so they aren't all pissed off. But, Please email me if you had a free account, and i'll do my best to fit you in at inihosting.com (spread the word -- Team INI Rocks.):cool:

MCHost-Marc
06-18-2001, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by TonyGM
and i've suddenly become EXTREMELY un-interested in the computer environment.. (new girlfreind, new hair style :P)

I wish you good luck with your new venture :D

Peeps
06-18-2001, 08:49 PM
"Team INI Rocks"? Riiiight.

A thread on this forum says to avoid them. Another thread shows that inihosting seems to have not made adequate arrangements to move certain resold sites when they themselves moved away. You are becoming part of that team, after having just decided that you are "EXTREMELY" uninterested in the environment, that your gas tank comes before people who had sites on your server, and very suddenly exited direct hosting yourself.

Sounds like a cracker of a team, all right.

ebird
06-18-2001, 09:02 PM
Because you suddenly don't like computer, we lost the database?!!!? Although it's free, why not be nice to send us some warning messages before you close it. You know what will happen when you don't pay the bill, right?

A lesson learned from this: DO check the person's age!!!

cbaker17
06-18-2001, 09:14 PM
Expect this alot, markets oversaturated with companies exactly like this. At least he was candid...

MCHost-Marc
06-18-2001, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by ebird
A lesson learned from this: DO check the person's age!!!

Don't forget that there are many young entrepreneurs in the industry that do have the experience and funds to successfully run a hosting company ...but then again, most dont. :(

Martie
06-18-2001, 11:05 PM
This just goes to show you do a little investigating on who you sign up with!
I am really surprised at how these new companies come to this forum.....and some of you are flogging in 5 minutes to sign up.
I dont get it!! Ive seen good reputable hosting companies quit posting here time and again.
More often than not there are posts here seeking help, and nobody even answers, especially if there is a good flame going on!
:angry: If you people arent angry about this recent
Lexton crap then guess what??? U SHOULD BE!!
Also.....people, if there are ANY people looking for providers, check out hostsearch and webhostdir, and if there are any customer reviews on companies, follow up on those yourself.....By the way.....INIhosting?? Do your homework on that one too!
:angry:

vibesolutions
06-19-2001, 12:11 AM
i'm 18 and I work for companies and do a business and i'm honest and dedicated in what I do. so it depends on the person not their age. A person at 18 could be smart or dumb. DON"T BASE IT ON AGE

JayC
06-19-2001, 01:12 AM
Originally posted by vibesolutions
A person at 18 could be smart or dumb. DON"T BASE IT ON AGE It has nothing to do with being smart or dumb. It really has nothing directly to do with age; it has to do with commitment to the business. But there's no reliable way to measure that commitment other than to make conclusions based on the available evidence.

And the fact is, an 18-year old just about to leave high school and enter college is a lot more likely -- as with the current case -- to decide to ditch the whole webhosting project because something more interesting came along than is a business that's incorporated, has a board of directors, multiple owners...

Of course, sometimes those businesses will close down, too (but they're more likely to do so responsibly, to recoup some of the investment and goodwill), so you're taking some risk no matter where you go. Personally, though, for my business, I'd minimize the risk by placing my sites where the odds are they'll be more secure. It's not 100% safe, but I'd feel much more confident than I would in putting my trust in some individual I've never met, who hasn't even gotten to the point in his life where he has to work a job every day and pay his bills on time.

My opinion, there are exceptions, your priorities may be different, your mileage may vary, choose your disclaimer...

edude
06-19-2001, 02:50 AM
LoL martie, can i join you in the anger rage, i don't have anything to do with lexton.net (woohoo) but everyone should do MORE research before signing with any host.
Especially when you don't look around then you come crying to WHT :( and it causes flames etc... !
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Originally posted by Martie
This just goes to show you do a little investigating on who you sign up with!
I am really surprised at how these new companies come to this forum.....and some of you are flogging in 5 minutes to sign up.
I dont get it!! Ive seen good reputable hosting companies quit posting here time and again.
More often than not there are posts here seeking help, and nobody even answers, especially if there is a good flame going on!
:angry: If you people arent angry about this recent
Lexton crap then guess what??? U SHOULD BE!!
Also.....people, if there are ANY people looking for providers, check out hostsearch and webhostdir, and if there are any customer reviews on companies, follow up on those yourself.....By the way.....INIhosting?? Do your homework on that one too!
:angry: :

Martie
06-19-2001, 04:07 AM
Originally posted by Hostexp
LoL martie, can i join you in the anger rage, i don't have anything to do with lexton.net (woohoo) but everyone should do MORE research before signing with any host.
Especially when you don't look around then you come crying to WHT :( and it causes flames etc... !
:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:



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LOL...you sure can! This is just another instance of WHY the industry already has a bad name, and WHY it makes it all the rougher on the good hosts out there. I dont have anything to do with lexton.net either.

edude
06-19-2001, 04:09 AM
Yes i have just noticed how hard it is, i launched a few days from now, it is terribly hard, not many people trust hosts anymore these days :( It's so hard to gain trust from clients or visitors who are interested now!! Very hard, thanks to companies like lexton.net!!

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Originally posted by Martie

LOL...you sure can! This is just another instance of WHY the industry already has a bad name, and WHY it makes it all the rougher on the good hosts out there. I dont have anything to do with lexton.net either.

Jedito
06-19-2001, 04:16 AM
Sure thing :(
Most terrible is if you live in South America :(
I don't get a single sign up from WHT, I think that is because I live here, and people don't trust in new hosting companies, and less if the company is located in a 3er world country. :bawling:

ebird
06-19-2001, 04:36 AM
Let me make this clear:

I only had a free account wiht lexton and I used it for testing purposes to see whether it should be considered for a paid account.

Of course I did't put something serious there. The shutting down didn't really matter to me.

Something concerned me is: Where is the responsibility?

Even for free accounts, a warning would be much better. For the paid account, he recommended a crappy host.
:angry: :angry:

No wonder it's hard to get trust for new hosting companies.

That's sad.

ebird

edude
06-19-2001, 06:27 AM
I don't get many signups from WHT as well, mostly from other places and advertising. These hosts are giving everyone in the market a bad reputation, especially the new signups as martie said, its very SAD!
Regards,
ValuableHost (Unhappy)
Originally posted by Jedito
Sure thing :(
Most terrible is if you live in South America :(
I don't get a single sign up from WHT, I think that is because I live here, and people don't trust in new hosting companies, and less if the company is located in a 3er world country. :bawling:

vibesolutions
06-19-2001, 07:21 AM
i'm sorry jayc but your wrong and you shouldn't pull younger people 18 year olds and above into this saying we're not reliable to host. Again, it is based on the person. I'm sorry, i'll leave this topic now but please review your comments thank you.

Chas
06-19-2001, 10:10 AM
In my opinion, it isn't the age of the person, it's the mentality. I started working for a company when I got out of school and my job evolved into a network/pc tech position. Shortly after I moved into this position I had a review from my manager and I ended up with a 2% pay raise. His exact words to me were: "For a kid your age, this is very good money." Shortly after that I was working as a tech for a large computer company making twice as much money. Just over a year later the other company called and asked me to come back to work for them at over three times what I was making when I left. It's what is in your head and how you use it that counts, not what is on your birth certificate. That said, there are a lot of 18 year olds that act like 12 year olds. It's just like the hosting industry, there are a few bad apples that give young adults a bad name.

Regards,
Chas

Martie
06-19-2001, 12:11 PM
To everyone...instead of quoting everybody...because they are all good points.
It wouldnt matter if lexton was 18, 48, 58, etc. AGE is not the thing here...its the business principle!
IMO--> it doesnt matter if you got a free account or not. Ive given out a few free accounts, but those accounts are treated just as a paying client would be.
Signups from WHT? Well good luck! Ive posted here, well over a year, and cannot actually give ANY number at all on ANY clients sent my way from here, by way of recommendation OR otherwise, BUT Ive seen numerous NEW, hosters, pop in, post, signup clients....yadayadayada.....you get the picture.

I look at this forum as a means of host-talk, nothing more...and would advise ANYBODY to follow up on any advice given here.
My 2cents :)

edude
06-19-2001, 12:21 PM
Martie, i have to say, i agree 100% with you! You've covered everything needed. The hosting market is getting a very bad name because of companies like lexton.net and this needs to be stopped. Especially on WHT!
Originally posted by Martie
To everyone...instead of quoting everybody...because they are all good points.
It wouldnt matter if lexton was 18, 48, 58, etc. AGE is not the thing here...its the business principle!
IMO--> it doesnt matter if you got a free account or not. Ive given out a few free accounts, but those accounts are treated just as a paying client would be.
Signups from WHT? Well good luck! Ive posted here, well over a year, and cannot actually give ANY number at all on ANY clients sent my way from here, by way of recommendation OR otherwise, BUT Ive seen numerous NEW, hosters, pop in, post, signup clients....yadayadayada.....you get the picture.

I look at this forum as a means of host-talk, nothing more...and would advise ANYBODY to follow up on any advice given here.
My 2cents :)

TonyGM
06-19-2001, 12:49 PM
you know, you guys are really self-suffice ass holes.. so to speak. I have been in this business for 3 years, and I freelance for MOST of the large companies involved in this board. I think you shoud really know what your talking about before you go and start bringing somone else down. INIHosting doesnt suck, trust me im good freinds with Mike, the owner, he is a very good guy, but in the same situation as me (his woman gets the best of him)..... once your all growed' up, and you get a good girlfreind of your own, you will see how much it sucks being on the computer for like 15 - 20 hours daily.. thats just bull****. Lexton was never large enough for me to hire help, so i had to do it on my own. As for the free cleints who were canceled, i would have given them the chance to back up, except the server was closed 2 days before I decided to put lexton down for good.

imajes
06-19-2001, 01:17 PM
Once you are in business, providing a service, not even a cute girl should make you decide to just 'give it up'. What's important are your customers.

MCHost-Marc
06-19-2001, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by TonyGM
once your all growed' up, and you get a good girlfreind of your own, you will see how much it sucks being on the computer for like 15 - 20 hours daily.. thats just bull****.

TonyGM: I have a girlfriend too, but she understands that i have to do my work. I wonder how you and your girlfriend are going to survive (if that's the appropiate word?) if you just decide to give up a business, your customers and suddenly stop working.

Ericd
06-19-2001, 01:43 PM
You guys are right. It's like saying, i have a job, but when i'll get a girlfriend (or boyfriend), i will just leave my job.

There's something not right in this statement. In life there's two things: work and pleasure. You can't have pleasure if you don't have a job (work)! Ok, bill Gates should be able to do it now, but not 25 years ago :)

JayC
06-19-2001, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by vibesolutions
i'm sorry jayc but your wrong and you shouldn't pull younger people 18 year olds and above into this saying we're not reliable to host.Umm.... OK, would it be more accurate if I criticized the reading comprehension skills of your group (not to mention writing skills, since I suspect you didn't mean "18 year olds and above"), since you seem to have missed most of what I wrote? For example:
It really has nothing directly to do with age; it has to do with commitment to the business.
What I'm talking about is playing the odds. If I put my website at DellHost, am I risking at all that Michael Dell will get a girlfriend and a new haircut and decide to pull the plug?

I certainly didn't say and am not saying that no 18 year olds are responsible enough to run a company. But I do say that most of the big problem hosting "companies" discussed in this forum of late (sorry to list Tony's effort with this rogue's gallery, but: Lexton, TrueHost, Tacid) are actually individuals who are notably young.

So why should the hosting consumer take the risk? I'm posing a problem, give me the answer.

Seer
06-19-2001, 04:00 PM
I think some good points have been brought up here. I know personally, I wouldn't use a host that hasn't been around for a good while with a strong reputation and a sufficient amount of people working with them. I had planned to go the hosting route previously but pulled out just before starting it all up. You can have all the dedication to it you want, but I think the age here really makes a difference. At 18 I was determined to become an Architect and it looked promising. At 19 I wanted to nothing but Web Design, 20 I was planning on starting hosting, at 21 i'm still very much into Design, but for a career i'm more interested now in Photography or perhaps even a Park Ranger. Obviously there's some pretty drastic changes here. Everyone that was previously with me on these plans has either gone another route or is planning their wedding a thousand miles away. It's just me now and staying up working on projects until the birds are chirping is getting rather old, especially when i'm still working full time. There's just a level of experience that is gained with more years that no dedication or knowledge is going to beat. These younger ages I think are better left for exploring ideas and planning for the future and of course just having some fun, there's a lot less chances to do this stuff later on. This concludes my ranting, let the bashing's begin. :)

TonyGM
06-20-2001, 12:35 AM
Well, i do work... im desiging a php script for my dad which will maintain his coin, and collectable website.. you can see what i've got so far at lexton.net -- I really dont think the hosting business has any good money anyways.. because all of the large businesses take all the small business's work.. btw truehosting/experthosting is growing beyond a few thousand customers now, (i work for them -- i should know) even though Peter (the owner) is not a good business man, he is smart as hell.. he has 2000 clients, which bring him alot of money.. they all seem happy too?:eek:

Chicken
06-20-2001, 10:43 AM
Why do I have the feeling this thread will end up to be 25 pages?

Seer
06-20-2001, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by Chicken
Why do I have the feeling this thread will end up to be 25 pages?
The last similar thread is at what, 23 now? :eek:
I stopped looking at that when it reached 5 waaay back when. Go for the record breaker! :D :laugh:

Martie
06-20-2001, 11:47 AM
Lock it!!

Chicken
06-20-2001, 01:05 PM
I'm think a pre-lock on this one wouldn't be a bad idea. If you had an account with Tony, email him directly.