buy cpanel/whm from vdi or burst? Which cpanel is more nicer? I can't see how the vdi cpanel is like..anyone have a sample?

i going get a license..what will i get from them after i sign up for a license from them? They send me a script to install or something?

As the split of the developer team was recently there are current no differences, I think. Both parties are developing a "new" product, VDI Cpanel 4 and DarkOrb NocSoft (somehow related to Burst, look for the recent post of Sean) - only the two teams will know the features of these products as they are currently not released to public.

VDI can't call their's cpanel so it will be different :)

I thought they will call it Cpanel4 and DarkOrb will call it NocSoft?
But I think the name is not a big matter - hope it will become less buggy.

Originally posted by Walter
I thought they will call it Cpanel4 and DarkOrb will call it NocSoft?
But I think the name is not a big matter - hope it will become less buggy.
As per the code split agreement, VDI can't call their product CPanel anymore.

Best Regards,
Matt Lightner
mlightner@site5.com

Matt-

Do you have ANY info at all for us? or BurstNET??

Originally posted by Dogma
Matt-

Do you have ANY info at all for us? or BurstNET??
I have lots of info on a broad range of subjects, but wouldn't want to bore you with all of it. :D

What kind of info are you seeking exactly?

Hi Matt,

Please bore us with all the new features of Nocsoft and don't forget to include all those boring screen shots!

I know for a fact that many more people here would like to be bored even more with this.

Am I right ?

;-)

Originally posted by Domenico
Please bore us with all the new features of Nocsoft and don't forget to include all those boring screen shots!

No Screen shots .. the GUI side of it wont be done for a while :(

Originally posted by CRego3D

No Screen shots .. the GUI side of it wont be done for a while :(
Or maybe they're just in the top secret NocSoft staff area. ;)

Regards,
Matt

Originally posted by Site5-Matt

Or maybe they're just in the top secret NocSoft staff area. ;)

Regards,
Matt


i got a copy of it.....:P j/k



cheers,
elijah john

I am extremely interested to hear about the billing section of it. What gateways will it include, and how har dwill it be to add another etc...?

Hey Carlos,

Is it going to be like the original cpanel or does it get a bit more çleaner 'professional' look.
I sure hope so.

Don't take this as an offence please. We allready have been there ;-)

Domenico

Originally posted by Get-Hosted.com
I am extremely interested to hear about the billing section of it. What gateways will it include, and how har dwill it be to add another etc...?

dito, I just have to choose who ever has worldpay :D

Domenico,
I think I remember your thread a while ago about you not liking the cpanel design... We did make our own cpanel skin, but just to decrease the load time- I didn't have a problem with the actual graphics/design portion.

If you wanted to give them a suggestion about how the future layout should be, I think it would be helpful if you were a little more specific about how you'd like it to look. Cleaner/more professional doesn't exactly give me a very clear visual picture :). Maybe cite specific examples of control panel layouts you _do_ like, and I'm sure if they decide that will improve the performance of NocSoft, they will consider changing the frontend. Maybe not, but at least you can say you tried :).

BTW- creating the cpanel skin wasn't really that hard. I did it in a day or two- you just have to remember not to get frightened by the number of files you have to edit :). I was pleasently surprised that many of them were based on dreamweaver templates, so all we really had to do was update those templates and it took effect through the whole thing. Now, I'm not sure how well this is going to work yet, since I haven't tested it... I'm sure I'm in for a bit more work troubleshooting it- but overall I think it worked out OK. Good luck!

the info I was thinking of could be presented in a list of changes/new features for the new control panel....and maybe some info on the billing feature..............

I be getting the license for my server. for 100/mth either at vdi or 99.95/mth. at burst . So, how am i going to install the script?

Personally, I'm going to suggest you use VDI for the Cpanel lisecensing because it seems VDI at least has their act together now and it seems just the opposite for Burst.

Since the big VDI outage a few months ago, I haven't seen a single negative comment about them. With Burst, I've seen tons.

About installing... All you really need to have it a clean RedHat installation and then there is a "script" that you simply download to the server and run via SSH or telnet and it installs Cpanel, Apache, etc. VDI will help you with the installation I'm sure.

We will not get the script by downloading? We get the script by connecting our server to their server to download?

Yes, it's best to download directly to your server and run it from there. That's the fastest and easiest way to do it. It's not anything like a CGI script that you just upload, CHMOD, and go...

Originally posted by Timothy
Personally, I'm going to suggest you use VDI for the Cpanel lisecensing because it seems VDI at least has their act together now and it seems just the opposite for Burst.

I don't mean to be rude, but what does Burst have to do with the Darkorb version of Cpanel? There are a number of places to get it other than BurstNET.

Furthermore, can you get me a list of upgrades that VDI has made since the code split? Take a look at cpanel.net for an abbreviated list of changes in the DarkOrb version...

Since the big VDI outage a few months ago, I haven't seen a single negative comment about them. With Burst, I've seen tons.

However, Sean has has a reasonable explanation for almost every negative post here. I think you're mixing up BurstNET and DarkOrb. Quite a few companies (other than Burst) sell/use the Darkorb version - Site5 included. To tell you the truth, I haven't seen a single update or feature addition in VDI's version. :(

Best Regards,
Matt Lightner
mlightner@site5.com

Matt.. I think you are right.. We tryed to signup with Burst and it took them more then 4 days to get back to us. So in the mean time we went with VDI.

Since then nothing but problem after problem. Things not working slow support if you can even get the one person on the phone that knows any thing about CPanel there adam.

Know i wish we would have went with a Darkorb version as it seems to keep getting updates as VDI falls behind.. Matt is there any one other then Bust that does the Darkorb version and has good support.. The reason i say that is Burst seems to be slow as hell on support if you get any..

Next thing would be as we have some users on the VDI version of CPanel can you go from VDI's version to Darkorb version with out any problems right now or is there a way to do that..

We may change if VDI does not pick up here in the next week as we are still under our 30day with them and have had a lot of problems..

Originally posted by Vortech
Since then nothing but problem after problem. Things not working slow support if you can even get the one person on the phone that knows any thing about CPanel there adam.

Know i wish we would have went with a Darkorb version as it seems to keep getting updates as VDI falls behind..
Keep in mind that the version of Cpanel that they have is already out of date. While Nick has been upgrading, fixing bugs, and adding features, I don't think VDI has made a new build (which was, however, mostly due to the fact that they were unable to until very recently). Adam is a great programmer, and knows a great deal about Cpanel. However, Nick created it, and knows more about it than anyone else ever possibly could.... for various reasons. :rolleyes:

Next thing would be as we have some users on the VDI version of CPanel can you go from VDI's version to Darkorb version with out any problems right now or is there a way to do that..

I'm not sure about that. You would have to ask Nick if there have been any major changes that would affect compatibility between the VDI/Darkorb versions.

Hope you get everything straightened out with them!

Best Regards,
Matt Lightner
mlightner@site5.com

can get the script and manually install?

any installation instruction for cpanel manual install?

i have to say burst.net have been pretty good to me, well sean at least as its ll i spoken to via email and on the phone.

Im glad i choose burst as they are setting me up with the lattest version which came out with a bug fix today :) he said anytime now i can expect them to install...

/me is waiting..waiting...waiting