I was wondering what everyone thinks of my new idea for resellers.

It's kinda a mix between reselling and having your own dedicated server.

The basic idea of it is:
You have a server that is set aside for you, and only you.
You pay a fixed one-time/monthly fee for that server, mainly depending on the specs.
I'm still not sure what options should be available to the reseller that have to do with the server, such as any WHM privileges etc...
After you pay for the server that is only for you, you buy normal resold accounts that would go on your machine. This way your accounts aren't bothered by your host's and their accounts aren't bothered by yours.

Please let me know what you think about the idea, and if you would go for it. Also, what do you think should be the price for the serve, and what kinda access the reseller should have to it, if any.

Thanks.

I really like that idea, but I do not know if it is economically viable. If you work it out though........

<<I AM NOT A HOST, JUST A CUSTOMER, THE ABOVE IS MY OPINION AS A CUSTOMER AND POTENTIAL RESELLER>>

I'm fairly sure that anyone who pays a monthly fee for a server would not also want to pay fees for accounts they set up on that server, especially if the fee they're paying is big enough. I'm also fairly sure that except in some cases, people paying for a server would want to control that server completely, from all options in WHM to root access. I know I would.

I've thought about something similar in the past, but I always landed up back at the start... why doesn't the reseller just get their own dedicated server?

the reseller might not want to get his own dedicated because then he is the big guns who is running the whole show. Maybe that person isn't ready to take that big step up yet and have someone above him controlling the machine. This plan is not a good idea though because most resellers won't make enough on accounts monthly to pay a monthly fee for a dedicated server and regular accounts above it.

It would be way to expensive I would think..

wbhst

You pay a normal price for your accounts... your dedicated sever has no pre-set bandwidth, etc...

Your account would include all bandwidth fees.

The host might even be able to offer the plans cheaper because it takes up no space on their machine?

I don't think it would be too exspensive... With no bandwidth or IP fees related to the server fee, it shouldn't cost too much.

It would definently be a bit more exspensive, but the benefits might be worth it for some.

This is what I think would be good. But again, I don't know if it would be economically possible. But hey, try to work it out.

Originally posted by Get-Hosted.com
You pay a normal price for your accounts... your dedicated sever has no pre-set bandwidth, etc...
Your account would include all bandwidth fees.
The host might even be able to offer the plans cheaper because it takes up no space on their machine?

Nice idea, but I can't understand how you can do this. The accounts are at a normal price level but on a server dedicated to the reseller, so what about the cost for the server itself and the rack space? Setup fee?
But nice idea! Tell us more.

Originally posted by Walter


Nice idea, but I can't understand how you can do this. The accounts are at a normal price level but on a server dedicated to the reseller, so what about the cost for the server itself and the rack space? Setup fee?
But nice idea! Tell us more.

Well... depending on the host, they might want to give the resold accounts for a cheaper price because it doesn't use up their server... ofcourse that is depending on the host. I'm guessing the fee for setup and the dedi server itself would be less then normal because no bandwidth and IP charges, and when you resell, you are making money for the company you resell for. When you buy a dedicated server alone, that's the only money they make off of you. So hopefully it wouldn't cost nearly as much as most dedicated servers.

Any other hosts out here that have an opinion on this?

How is this different from colocation with preloaded reselling software?

Peter

Much different.

My idea is basically reselling on a server just for you.

With colocation you pay a lot more, you pay for bandwidth seperately, you pay for IPs. It's much different.

I was thinking and maybe this would be best for resellers who already have some customers, and this would be the next step above reselling and one step below your own dedicated servers.

sounds like a nice idea... but:

if this idea is successful, is the host who is offering this kind of deal going to dedicate a whole server to the reseller and only charge them a relatively normal hosting price? i would think the host would be losing out since you never know if the reseller will make it big or stop reselling the next day...

maybe a contract agreement? this way, you can be sure that the reseller won't just quit the next day and waste their reseller's server dedicated that has been set away just for them... either the contract agreement or charging a bit more then regular hosting accounts but less then a full dedicated server?

hehe, if anyone is offering this, let me know:D

I felt the same way and I think the contract would work. I'll have to think about the more for accounts and less for dedicated server idea.

Maybe you could require them to bring in a certain amount of accounts first, or If they bring in a certain amount of accounts, they would not have to have a contract.

yep, sounds like another precaution for this kind of deal...

if they bring along accounts, then you know they are (well, not 100% but better then nothing) sure that they will be reselling and those accounts shows the host that they can and are up to the 'challenge' of reselling.

if they have no accounts, then you have no clue if they will give you the commitment that you're giving them by providing them their own server dedicated for this resold accounts...

maybe even, how about...you can resell for us on our servers, when you get X number of resold accounts under you, then we (the host) will set aside a server dedicated to your resold accounts

I guess what you are saying is that instead of putting 1000 clients on one server, you garrenttee one user(the client) on one server.

But isn't this the same as dedicated with helping wheels?

Also another Idea for one step above shared hosting and one step below dedicated hosting: provide a Virtual Private Server (shared hosting with root access).

Peter

I guess what you are saying is that instead of putting 1000 clients on one server, you garrenttee one user(the client) on one server.
Yep

maybe even, how about...you can resell for us on our servers, when you get X number of resold accounts under you, then we (the host) will set aside a server dedicated to your resold accounts
Sounds pretty good, still could offer them the server with no customers, if they sign a contract or something similar to that.

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I tried posting in this thread about 10 times, each time it said it worked, and brought me back to main forum... so I just typed anything to see if it was working yet. Sorry about that :-)

im not 100% what SFD means, but i authorised it anyways in the hope the poster would explain ?

maybe:

Sales Force Driven ?

Originally posted by ICS Canada
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Don't think they offer this.

Good idea.

I must say not all people buy dedicated servers to resell a webspace. Some need a server for application hosting, etc.
As for me I cannot find afordable dedicated server just because all prices oriented on webhosting resellers and
I don't need that 100- 200 Gb of banwidch and multiple IPs.

If you are serious contact me at serger@torba.com and probably I could be your first customer for new pricing plan :)