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View Full Version : FreeBSD based vhosting question
drhonk 06-03-2001, 04:27 PM Hi everybody,
I know some of you guys are running FreeBSD for your servers. For those of you that are running FreeBSD, what do you guys use for control panel ?
I've seen Plesk features and I've decided not to use it. Not that it's a bad program, it just doesn't have what I'm looking for. I need something more than email management.
I've also read some older thread on this issue, and some of you suggested using webmin. I know webmin can be configure for regular user to use but then also missing a lot of stuff. I'm thinking about using webmin as based engine, and create my own module to build a control panel. I don't know if it'll work, but theoritically it should.. hehehe...:D
So.. I need some help or idea on where to start .. it'll be a great.
Thanks all,
Planet Z 06-03-2001, 04:58 PM We've used Webmin on our dedicated FreeBSD servers for the owner of the server. But we haven't actually tried using it for end-users (I think that's what you're trying to do, right?).
You should be able to do what you're trying to do with Webmin. There's a module for it called ISPControl that may give you some ideas. ( http://www.niemueller.de/webmin/modules/ispcontrol/ ). I've never actually used it, though.
Let me know how it works out. We currently don't have a end-user control panel for our virtual customers on our BSD machines, other than for mail (using qmailadmin). We could always use one, though. :cool:
cbaker17 06-03-2001, 05:23 PM What are you needing that plesk doesnt provide?? Granted plesk does lack some features, but all the important ones that I could imagine you using are there.... It has quite a bit more functionaility then just email...
I too would like to see another control panel released for freebsd though...
drhonk 06-03-2001, 09:15 PM I also use qmailadmin .. and qmailadmin has been very usefull... I can compare that with plesk. What I really need from a control panel is to give user ability to manage their website, email, cgi, account and billing. I can probably add support within control panel. I was trying to use php version of qmailadmin but it didn't do well and now since they released perl module for it, it'll be a lot easier to create a replacement using perl.
Now.. just a matter of searching for a good billing software that can easilly integrate with the whole thing. I'm testing CBMS also right now .. and so far ..it's been pretty good.
diyoha 07-09-2001, 10:55 AM am I missing something here?
I thought
http://www.freevsd.com/
is a cpanel for freebsd?
correct me if I am wrong
David
thewitt 07-09-2001, 12:41 PM Actually freeVSD is NOT a control panel for freeBSD.
freeBSD is a virtual hosting environment solution that gives you true virtual hosts with their own application suites including their own httpd daemon running with their own config files etc.
It's a very slick, and very secure solution.
I've been playing with it for a couple of weeks and I'm very impressed so far.
-t
davidb 07-09-2001, 12:53 PM I think smarthostingtools.com is working on a bsd version, no Idea when it will be done though.
Planet Z 07-09-2001, 02:18 PM I think thewitt is right: FreeVSD is not really an end-user control panel. I think it's what most hosts call virtual dedicated servers.
diyoha 07-09-2001, 02:30 PM Originally posted by drhonk
Now.. just a matter of searching for a good billing software that can easilly integrate with the whole thing. I'm testing CBMS also right now .. and so far ..it's been pretty good.
I am a little confused. Is there a difference between CBMS and ubersmith .... I know ubersmith is an ASP solution and CBMS can be downloaded. What is the exact deal?
thanks
David
<<MOD NOTE:>>
David, I think this is an entirely new thread topic altogether.
<</MOD NOTE>>
diyoha 07-09-2001, 02:33 PM Originally posted by thewitt
Actually freeVSD is NOT a control panel for freeBSD.
freeBSD is a virtual hosting environment solution that gives you true virtual hosts with their own application suites including their own httpd daemon running with their own config files etc.
It's a very slick, and very secure solution.
I've been playing with it for a couple of weeks and I'm very impressed so far.
-t
My mistake ... for some unknown reason I connected it to freebsd!
From their website it seems like it is a good control panel solution. The only part it is missing is the login and management for the endusers. So a company that does not want their client to manage their information (for whatever reason) this would work fine.
correct me if I am off.
David
ComplexMind 07-26-2001, 09:15 AM I haven't been around for a couple of weeks, so sorry if I missed this one :blush:
Basically, as PlanetZ and thewitt put it, freeVSD creates virtual servers (or virtual private servers - same thing) on Linux, except it doesn't use virtual kernels so it's far more efficient than most. Virtual servers are created by hard-linking to skels, which are filesystem templates.
There is a remote administration protocol built right into freeVSD that provides an API for creating/deleting/managing virtual servers and virtual domains, as well as configuring users, quotas, permissions, apache, sendmail, procmail etc directly. The protocol includes SSL support and certificate management tools for secure remote administration.
The protocol is open, so anybody wanting integrate their own web admin shouldn't have too many problems, however the project's sponsors, Idaya Ltd, are producing their own set of commercial server administration tools.
The current tools are native Win32 clients for administrating Host Servers, Virtual Servers and Virtual Domains, and are called VSDControl, VSDClient and VSDMail respectively. For more info check out the website (www.idaya.com).
Finally, there are rumours of a web based admin system for freeVSD being designed in conjunction with the Early Adopter Program members. Hopefully there should be some more news in the next week or two
:cool:
Going back to the original question, freeVSD does not 'officially' run on *BSD platforms. However as far as I am aware it wouldn't take too much work to get it up and running on *BSD. If I remember correctly disk quotas were the main sticking point...
The freeVSD project is concentrating on Redhat 6.2 and 7.1 as supported platforms for the time being. The next release will have undergone a lot of hardening now that the underlying features are there, and so some ports may start to appear.
Hope this helps.
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