You've prob seen my old hosts, but Are there any GOOD CHEAP hosts?

I need:
Fast, Reliable
at least 50MB
CGI-BIN (my own scripts)
Perl/Python
SSI (including exec directives)
Telnet and FTP access
Less than $5/mo (or $60/yr)

I've found MxHub.net, RNwebdesign.com, and instantwebdesign.net.
I've I heard lots of people saying good things about these places, but a few people saying bad things.

I've heard people say you get what you paid for, but does it really cost that much?

hostdiscount.net?

the price is ok
but it doesnt seem to have SSI or Shell access.
plus I have no idea if it is reliable.

There seems to be lots of people on this forum.
Its hard to beleive that there is no one that needs the same features I want and get it for less that $5.00 with out it being unreliable.

How much bandwidth?

that doesnt really matter too much to me. most places I see say about 1GB, so that is fine

Are you needing the shell access for MySQL or something else?

no. I do not need SQL
basiacally I'm a perl/python programmer and I'm looking for a place I can develop my scripts.
I can use my school's servers but there are limitations, like no SSI exec, and lots of limitations with perlscripts.
I want shell access so I can open up a window like emacs or something and work on my scripts. then I can just push save and test my script, intsead of save, then login via ftp, then upload. this is a very annoying step. plus manytimes I can easily debug my code from the command line. since this is only a hobby I dont want to spend more than $5 a month.
I just need:

fast, reliable
at least 50MB space
bandwith doesnt matter
Telnet Shell access and FTP
SSI includes (including exec)
CGI-bin for my own scripts.
python and perl
less than $5

wzpro.net $48/year
weinbar.com <$50/year
9kd.net $15/year

Originally posted by Enrico Ng
You've prob seen my old hosts, but Are there any GOOD CHEAP hosts?

I need:
Fast, Reliable
at least 50MB
CGI-BIN (my own scripts)
Perl/Python
SSI (including exec directives)
Telnet and FTP access
Less than $5/mo (or $60/yr)

I've found MxHub.net, RNwebdesign.com, and instantwebdesign.net.
I've I heard lots of people saying good things about these places, but a few people saying bad things.

I've heard people say you get what you paid for, but does it really cost that much?

Try digitalspace.net. Their $6.95 plan gives you all that plus a lot more. I still host a few sites with them, even though I have my own server now, and find them to be fast and reliable.

Dont use a webhost provider for programming. use a shell provider.
They would install stuff that you may need etc hosts usually turn off alot of things that shell providers have on, due to security.

Cheers

Craig

Is it just me or does it seem like Enrico Ng just needs to get the software on his local machine?

Originally posted by ebird
wzpro.net $48/year
weinbar.com <$50/year
9kd.net $15/year

wzpro.net, seems good but is it reliable?
weinbar.com seems to be pretty slow and doesnt seem to have telnet
9kd.net seems to have lots of "unlimited" things and doesnt seem to have telnet



Originally posted by Craig
Dont use a webhost provider for programming. use a shell provider.
They would install stuff that you may need etc hosts usually turn off alot of things that shell providers have on, due to security.

Cheers

Craig

Hmm, sounds good. Where do I go to find shellproviders? are these placeses expensive? I'm not sure what they would limit. I only need emacs, perl and python. If they dont give you that, whats the point of giving telnet access.

Originally posted by Chicken
Is it just me or does it seem like Enrico Ng just needs to get the software on his local machine?

Huh? I have software on my machine. But I can't host my stuff on my own computer. Thats the problem I was talking about. I dont like going through the hassle of having to ftp my files to the host every time I make a little change. or develop everything on my own computer, but have to make changes because of incompatibilities.

123InstantHost or Instant Webdesign or whatever its called looks good. even a free year of hosting if you register a domain for more than 3 years.

Also, I emailed them yesterday at 9:09p and got a real reply at 9:15p
I sent another email to them at 9:17p and 11:24p and got replys replys at 12:24am.
I dont know if this is a good thing or a bad thing.

9kd.net looks very good. $15/year, unlimited disk space. but no telnet.
These places look really good, but are they actually reliable? will they be around next year?

Do you run Linux or Windows? I think what Chicken mean is to install a web server on your own computer, so you won't have to pay for a web host if it's just to do your programming. I could be wrong thought :D

:beer:

Originally posted by HostAB.com
Do you run Linux or Windows? I think what Chicken mean is to install a web server on your own computer, so you won't have to pay for a web host if it's just to do your programming. I could be wrong thought :D

:beer:

Thats what I said in my last message. I did try running my own webserver. but I need a host that will be there 24/7. My computer is doing weird things all the time. sometimes its in w2k, sometimes linux, sometimes it likes to do its own thing. Thats why I want a outside host. When I work on my scripts, I usually will change one little thing, then run the script. If I dont have telnet, then I have to ftp it to the server. this is a hassle because having to do it everytime adds up to lots of wasted time. I could run my own server and develop it on there, then copy it over, but then I'd have to make changes to make it work on the ouside host. then I'd have to keep two copies of the same thing. otherwise editing the script would be a pain.

so bottom line I want to have telnet access.and beable to run perl, python and emacs.

I am hosting 3 of my domains with http://www.34sp.com they charge 18$ per year but note the bandwith is 400MB only. Their support is fantastic.

Some more which I know, but no experence:
http://www.discount-hosting.com 10$ per year
http://www.directoris.com 14$ for life
Good luck:rolleyes:

http://www.shellreview.com

Has a list of all the providers and a review, strangly enough. :)

Shells are dirt cheap <3$/month dependin on the compnay, however you get what u paid for :)

Cheers

Craig

Originally posted by Enrico Ng
My computer is doing weird things all the time. sometimes its in w2k, sometimes linux, sometimes it likes to do its own thing. Thats why I want a outside host.

HostAB.com was right and I see... nevermind them I get ya'. *crawls back under rock*

WorldZonePro looks very good.
9kd.net looks even better, too good to be true.
9kd.net is located in the UK and is hosted by the same company as MxHUB.

Has anyone here used these services?
Have you had problems?
How long have you been using it?

Pro has only been around for a few months, but has had tremendous growth. We arent going to disappear anytime soon either. We have Worldzone.net (free host) and have been in biz for over 3 years. Anyone who has managed to keep a free host open that length of time, you can be sure the pay hosting will be around a very long time. However, dont take my word for it, visit our support forums thats listed in my sig. I recommend you do that before ever considering us. You may even want to signup for the free hosting just to test drive things, although it doesnt offer near what the pay side does. Our clients all seem satisfied, free and pay....but feel free to ask on our own forums..

Mods: Umm, answering a question asked directly about us isnt breaking the rules, correct?

I am also looking for cheap hosts. This thread has certainly helped me alot.

Originally posted by Webdude
Pro has only been around for a few months, but has had tremendous growth. We arent going to disappear anytime soon either. We have Worldzone.net (free host) and have been in biz for over 3 years. Anyone who has managed to keep a free host open that length of time, you can be sure the pay hosting will be around a very long time. However, dont take my word for it, visit our support forums thats listed in my sig. I recommend you do that before ever considering us. You may even want to signup for the free hosting just to test drive things, although it doesnt offer near what the pay side does. Our clients all seem satisfied, free and pay....but feel free to ask on our own forums..

Mods: Umm, answering a question asked directly about us isnt breaking the rules, correct?

Mmmmmff, I'll let it pass....

my host nomonthly.co.uk have been very good to me... you pay a one off fee of £300 and then don't pay again. I bought three accounts with thm now and they've even given me a free account! Quick response, good features and cheap over the long term!

:D

See my post here...
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=12014&perpage=20&pagenumber=2

Cheers!
Rob.

Originally posted by Webdude
Pro has only been around for a few months, but has had tremendous growth. We arent going to disappear anytime soon either. We have Worldzone.net (free host) and have been in biz for over 3 years. Anyone who has managed to keep a free host open that length of time, you can be sure the pay hosting will be around a very long time. However, dont take my word for it, visit our support forums thats listed in my sig. I recommend you do that before ever considering us. You may even want to signup for the free hosting just to test drive things, although it doesnt offer near what the pay side does. Our clients all seem satisfied, free and pay....but feel free to ask on our own forums..

Mods: Umm, answering a question asked directly about us isnt breaking the rules, correct?

You FAQ says the following:
Our Corporate Headquarter is in Venice, Fl. CEO office in Woodlands, Tx. Technical office in Vancouver, Canada. Server locations in Chicago, Ill. Marketing and Programming Offices are in Ft. Lauderdale, FL.

I have verified all this information to be correct, EXCEPT:
you say your servers are located in Chicago, yet
on a TraceRoute of any of your sites, or the sites you host, they all lead to VDI.NET which is Located in NewJersey.
Also, I could only find Glide.com for your technical office in vancouver. but why do you have a separate tech office away from your server. I would assume vdi.net would be your tech office.

Ok, I have a question.

What do you call cheap ??


is cheap:
a) < 50 a year
b) < 75 a year
c) < 100 a year
d) < 200 a year


Oh yea, I would say cheap for me would be ............ c <100 year

for ME, cheap would be <$60/year or < $5/month.
Web Developing is only a hobby for me, so I dont want to spend more than that.

Originally posted by Enrico Ng



Huh? I have software on my machine. But I can't host my stuff on my own computer. Thats the problem I was talking about. I dont like going through the hassle of having to ftp my files to the host every time I make a little change. or develop everything on my own computer, but have to make changes because of incompatibilities.


You use emacs on windows you say?

you know you can do this to load files remotely via ftp and save directly to ftp:

ctrl-x ctrl-f
/user@machine.domain.com:~/directory/to/file.pl

then whenever you save (ctrl-x ctrl-s) emacs automatically ftps the file to the remote server for you transparently.

Thats how I do all my developing..

Originally posted by zhoujianfu

You use emacs on windows you say?

you know you can do this to load files remotely via ftp and save directly to ftp:

ctrl-x ctrl-f
/user@machine.domain.com:~/directory/to/file.pl

then whenever you save (ctrl-x ctrl-s) emacs automatically ftps the file to the remote server for you transparently.

Thats how I do all my developing..

yeah, I knew that, but there are other things, other than emacs.
There are alot of other tools that I like to use on the server.

My own search for a reasonably prised host has resulted in primemaster.com or gnxonline.com. I'd be very interested in hearing your comments on these hosts. From cnet.com I can see that people have mixed feelings about primemaster.com. It is certainly a company of the too-good-to-be-true type. But then again, you can sign up for just a month at a time. How bad can it be? I did a search for 'primemaster' on Google and found a user complaining that his/her site hosted by primemaster had been down for three days. This is ridiculous! Anyway, I think I may give primemaster a shot.
Anders

I didnt know this was posted here, though I did answer your PM on it. Our servers were in Chicago before we moved to VDI. We just have to update the FAQ..

Originally posted by Enrico Ng


You FAQ says the following:
Our Corporate Headquarter is in Venice, Fl. CEO office in Woodlands, Tx. Technical office in Vancouver, Canada. Server locations in Chicago, Ill. Marketing and Programming Offices are in Ft. Lauderdale, FL.

I have verified all this information to be correct, EXCEPT:
you say your servers are located in Chicago, yet
on a TraceRoute of any of your sites, or the sites you host, they all lead to VDI.NET which is Located in NewJersey.
Also, I could only find Glide.com for your technical office in vancouver. but why do you have a separate tech office away from your server. I would assume vdi.net would be your tech office.

your site says:

What our Packages consists of:
Starting Price $3 per month for 120 megs space and 4096 megs monthly bandwidth.
Effective May 15, the price for new accounts will go to $4/month billed yearly. So Hurry!

it seems like you only have one package (if you dont include free, and plus).
also, you say you have a $3/mo service, where? how is it different from the $4/mo service.

Originally posted by Chicken
Is it just me or does it seem like Enrico Ng just needs to get the software on his local machine?

He could do that, but for $5 or less per month, why deal with the burden of making sure your system works? Just use someone else's system.

Plus, if he doesn't have the hardware to install BSD or Linux on, the cost of the new (or new for him) hardware will greatly outweigh the cost of the hosting or shell plan in the short to medium term. :D

Take care,

Brian

Originally posted by Enrico Ng
your site says:

What our Packages consists of:
Starting Price $3 per month for 120 megs space and 4096 megs monthly bandwidth.
Effective May 15, the price for new accounts will go to $4/month billed yearly. So Hurry!

it seems like you only have one package (if you dont include free, and plus).
also, you say you have a $3/mo service, where? how is it different from the $4/mo service.

Actually, there is only one package. $4/4096bw/120megs

Like I said, I need to update that, but have been busy working on other things such as an Adult Content Host (Pro wont host that stuff) and a reseller server. The whole Pro site needs a complete overhaul. I have just been unable to get to it except a little now and then. Support keeps me the most busy, and I handle support before I handle designing.

can I register a domain with you too?
I will need to low cost place for domain registration

Originally posted by Enrico Ng
WorldZonePro looks very good.
9kd.net looks even better, too good to be true.
9kd.net is located in the UK and is hosted by the same company as MxHUB.

Has anyone here used these services?
Have you had problems?
How long have you been using it?


9kd and MxHub doesn't seem to be related in anyway, a whois shows that 9kd is based in Ontario while MxHub in Singapore. Please correct me if i'm wrong.

Originally posted by Enrico Ng
can I register a domain with you too?
I will need to low cost place for domain registration

No, I generally recommend Joker.com or especially gkg.net. Both are $10. I like gkg a little better. They arent WebTV compatible though in case you happen to use that.