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View Full Version : satellite internet?
jolly 06-01-2001, 06:30 AM I am looking for company which provide internet connection via satellite. I think its called vsat and imarsat. I am interested in doing business of ISP for the Asia and Africa region. Can anyone please tell me the website of the companies , services and there rates. Company like http://www.newskies.com.
Sesran 06-01-2001, 09:50 AM http://www.starband.com/ is an American company, but may be able to help.
try http://www.interpacket.net they seem to be a good one.
lord1 06-03-2001, 03:49 PM If you're looking for one-way satellite internet in Europe: Starspeeder. The main site is www.starspeeder.lu, they operate with country distributers. If you are living in the Netherlands, or in Belgium (like me), you are unfortunate enough to only be able to order through Hertzinger, which basically means that you can't order at all.
Another ISP via satellite (one-way) is Europe Online. They were really good at startup, with speeds of up to 3 Mbps (which was absolutely great for only $15 a month), but then they started overloading the satellite and speeds are now under 28,8k modem speeds.
Two-way satellite in Europe is still very non-existent. The ones that offer it are very unclear about everything, and the ones that will offer it won't be here until early 2002, at the very least.
JapAniManga.ch 06-03-2001, 04:03 PM Hi,
Originally posted by lord1
Two-way satellite in Europe is still very non-existent. The ones that offer it are very unclear about everything, and the ones that will offer it won't be here until early 2002, at the very least.
do you mean with this ''... the ones that will offer it ...'' <<DSL SATT>> (from Freenet.de & Gilat) ? [For more Information about it go to http://www.freenet.de/freenet/tarifanmeldung/sat_dsl/index (in German)] ?
lord1 06-03-2001, 04:18 PM My German is a little rusty, but I suppose that's one of them, yes.
avara 06-03-2001, 08:34 PM Originally posted by AnimeHosting.net
Hi,
do you mean with this ''... the ones that will offer it ...'' <<DSL SATT>> (from Freenet.de & Gilat) ? [For more Information about it go to http://www.freenet.de/freenet/tarifanmeldung/sat_dsl/index.html (in German)] ?
Just checked it out, and they look very promising indeed. The download speed would be 1mbit, and upload would be 150kbit. I think the cost in USD would be roughly $80/month.
What I'd like to know however is: will they be available in Ireland, where I live? Or will this be available in Germany only?
drhonk 06-04-2001, 12:01 AM Is satellite really relliable ?
Scott 06-04-2001, 01:28 AM I'm also curious to know if local weather conditions would affect satellite transmissions...:rolleyes:
drhonk 06-04-2001, 02:33 AM oh..not only that.... I'm worry about the lag time going to places. Is that going to be affected or not.
With an ordinary fiber line .. or copper wire... the packet going straight to the gateway. Now ..with satellite .. it goes up to lala land up there.. then down to the gateway .. hmm... that's a lot of travelling time before it actually hit the gateway. I figured losing about hmm.. what .. maybe 5 sec there already .. hehe..
Actually I have sprint broadband (wireless) and dish network TV + dish network internet at home. None of them have been affected ever by weather. Packet lose and lag is not noticed at all, in fact you would never know there isn't a hard line hooked up. I use sprint for most things and dish network as a backup.
lord1 06-04-2001, 03:37 AM The connection will be just as good as a land line, probably even better. And the lag time is less than half a second, and on the internet, you don't notice such things. You have to keep in mind that your request has to travel 36,000 kilometers up in the sky, and then go down to the earth station 36,000 kms, then the answer has to go up from the earth station 36,000 kms, and come back down to your place 36,000 kms. As you can see, a lot of distance covered just by going through the air. Kind of neat, I think.
Anyway, I've done some more research last night after reading and posting here, and have found out the following: broadband 2-way satellite is available in the US, currently upload 150k and download up to 1 Mbps. It will be available in Europe (all over Europe, it's satellite) at the end of this year, at speeds of up to 2 Mbps down and 256k up. You can already get these things, but they are too expensive, they are geared towards ISPs looking for a backbone connection. However, the consumer market is coming. By the end of 2002, beginning of 2003, we should be able to use our dish to surf at speeds of up to 45 Mbps (!!!!!!!) and an upload speed of up to 2 Mbps (!!). For me, satellite is the future, as my local phone company isn't able to provide ADSL (1,7 km too far) and the cable won't be here until next year. So, I'm getting quite angry with Belgian ISPs, and that is why I don't want to have anything to do with them anymore in the future.
toma1708 06-04-2001, 03:53 AM Europe online is quite good for one way connection.
2 way: web-sat.com.
BR
avara 06-04-2001, 04:53 AM Originally posted by toma1708
Europe online is quite good for one way connection.
2 way: web-sat.com.
BR
OMG web-sat.com have their HQ 2 hours from my house... OMG HOOK ME UP£$&@^&*£$^
:D
avara 06-04-2001, 04:57 AM But guess what... they don't have any distributers in Ireland who will install my dish.
avara 06-04-2001, 05:25 AM Called them now, all I got was an answering machine saying that they were on holiday. I guess I'll try again tomorrow...
lord1 06-04-2001, 05:54 AM My experience with Europe Online (like many others):
I signed up in the summer of 2000, after they had gone into business around April, I heard that their speeds were incredible. They were also promoting it, and everything was great. I signed up, and got amazing speeds. Until the fall, when they got too many customers. Their speed dropped from almost 2 Mbps to a mere 28.8K connection (even worse than that). Hundreds of customers were not satisfied, and after many angry mails, I decided to cancel my service (like many others). Europe Online then simply started claiming that they were not an ISP, they were just delivering multimedia services. Isn't it easy to just change your policies after you've gone bad?
My advice: stay away from Europe Online!
lord1 06-04-2001, 05:56 AM I have no experience with them, but as I have found out (after long searching their site), is that their prices are extremely high!!! You pay $200 per month for a download volume of 200 MB!!!! (that in the age where ISP's are talking in volumes of GBs).
toma1708 06-04-2001, 06:16 AM It is true that these providers are asking for a huge amount of money for small traffic. I ask myself why.
The true is that this sector is not yet an option, it is too expensive for most internet users.
avara 06-04-2001, 11:08 AM Originally posted by lord1
I have no experience with them, but as I have found out (after long searching their site), is that their prices are extremely high!!! You pay $200 per month for a download volume of 200 MB!!!! (that in the age where ISP's are talking in volumes of GBs).
Where on their site did you see those prices? They seem to indicate on their web site that their solutions are ideal for casual surfers who want to use the Internet cheaply to check emails, do a bit of web surfing, etc..
$200 sounds a little high for your average Joe Street.
avara 06-04-2001, 11:10 AM Hmm, Web-Sat say that their upstream speed is burstable to 16kbit/s.
That, um, isn't very fast.
*cough*
lord1 06-04-2001, 12:04 PM http://www.tiscsat.com/Internetsat.html
I got it off of their distributor's site in the Netherlands, where I live closest to. I haven't checked the other countries yet, they are all in Eastern Europe.
Next to the Netherlands, the only other distributor that has a website is the one in Algiers. This website has no price information at first sight, but they do have information as to the connection itself. They claim it is 4 Mbps to start with, and you can upgrade to 60 Mbps. The uplink seems to be 16 Kbps, and should be 64 Kbps by April 2001, which has already passed. Personally, I find these speeds GREAT!
But the price you pay for what you get...
avara 06-04-2001, 01:35 PM Even 64kbit upstream is hardly great, especially not for the prices they charge. $2000 for the sat equipment plus $200 a month for subscription stinks, and you only get 200 MB of bandwidth per month. That's $1000 per gigabyte!!! :eek:
All that said, they're still the cheapest by far for many people who live in Europe.
I use DirecPC...It's only one way now, but I have the two-way version ordered. They advertise 400Kbps down...I've gotten up to 800Kbps though. The uplink is supposed to be 128 Kbps.
They do have a European version, no idea about the pricing though... http://www.direcpceu.com/
avara 06-04-2001, 02:05 PM Originally posted by JG
I use DirecPC...It's only one way now, but I have the two-way version ordered. They advertise 400Kbps down...I've gotten up to 800Kbps though. The uplink is supposed to be 128 Kbps.
They do have a European version, no idea about the pricing though... http://www.direcpceu.com/
I did not know they had a two-way version in operation/planned. How much does this cost? If it's less than $80/month, I'll almost certainly give it a try.
2-way may be US only, I'm not sure... I believe it's $69.99 a month.
They gave me an installation date of "anytime in the next 3-4 months." The FCC apparently requires professional installation because it's a transmitting device.
jolly 06-05-2001, 08:37 AM I started this thread just asking few things which company provide the internet via satellite.
And do they provide services in India and Africa...
Can you please just write the url and region of there operation.
:o
seeker 06-05-2001, 02:48 PM Yeahhh :mad:
Please provide some info on services offered to Indian Sub Continent.
You people in US & Europe have enough INTERNET :D :D :D
seeker 06-06-2001, 07:09 AM http://www.newskies.com seems to offer service for Asia & Africa
Can anybody tell me how much will be the monthly cost if I use there service in india???
Basically what special hardware shd i need at my end???
avara 06-06-2001, 03:00 PM Originally posted by seeker
Yeahhh :mad:
Please provide some info on services offered to Indian Sub Continent.
You people in US & Europe have enough INTERNET :D :D :D
Most of europe may have enough Internet, but Ireland certainly doesn't. Whilst my friends in Germany are all surfing the Internet over 768kbps unlimited access ADSL, I'm stuck on a lousy modem dialup*&^£*$&@£$^£@*&
seeker 06-06-2001, 03:05 PM Sorry avara ;)
We are in the same boat :bawling:
Here it is 56kbps dial up; Worst is the old phone exchange only gives me 43-45kbps max after mid night :mad:
lord1 06-06-2001, 03:54 PM It's the same all over Europe, and sometimes, it's even only a matter of kilometers. In my case: 1.7 km, that's all! Sometimes, you would think that in the very center of Western Europe, you're no better that in Africa (internet-wise that is).
seeker 06-07-2001, 12:35 PM Yeahhh..it's painful to surf in busy times. wasting time & money.
Sad to hear the same story from europe!!!
Thats why we shd love satellites :D
lord1 06-07-2001, 12:38 PM I signed up with Starspeeder today, it's a one-way satellite internet connection. Let's see how it holds up. Can't wait to get my username/password. I will keep you guys posted.
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