hi i am from singapore..this is just a survey not selling.. i would like to check if i offer p4 1.7 celeron 256mb ram 30gb harddisk for $150 USD per month and $120USD setup fee at singapore singtel datacentre.. on a shared 100mbps line .. unmetered.. would monitor the line if traffic gets too much would get another line.. .. .. unmanaged server .. just plain redhat 7.3 and most probably webmin if needed.. what do you guys think? too expensive ? too cheap? whats the right price than?

Originally posted by critical
p4 1.7 celeron

ermm... :eek:

I have no idea what the Singapore market is like, but I don't think too many people would pay more than $99/month for that over here. Rackshack has a 1.7 GHz Celeron, 512 MB RAM, and a 60 GB hard drive for $109/month. (400 GB transfer)

If you're offering unmetered transfer, I suppose FDCservers.net would be more of a competitor... I think most people who don't host super-busy sites tend to be scared of 'unmetered' places, as it seems that most people there are there because their site uses a ton of bandwidth. Plus, it depends on how 'shared' the line is -- if it's shared with ten people, it's a pretty nice deal. If there are hundreds and hundreds of servers on the line, it's going to be pretty bad.

BTW, make sure that if you do start offering this... You don't call it a "P4 Celeron," since that's kind of like saying something about your "Honda Ferrari" or "Toyota Ford." They're two separate products. I'm pretty sure you meant to say "Intel 1.7 GHz Celeron"?

I am not sure if the bandwidth is capped, I would supposed that would make a difference in terms of pricing. Hosting in Singapore might be appropriate if your target audience are in Singapore or within the South East Asia region.

Here is the network status and ping speed from Singtel's Datacenter http://business.singnet.com.sg/network/index.html

so what do you guys think of it? what price is right? what if lowered to 120per month? too high or too low

the question is how much you willing "to make" out of it.

depends on how much the market wants to take it?

Although it is unmetered, does Singtel capped the bandwidth pipe or how fast are their outgoing pipes ?

not really its 100mbps local + overseas

how about you put up a test file or ask your provider to and we can see what sort of speeds we can get from europe \ usa :)

try this http://www.ehostingzone.com/uumap.tar.z .. and see how is it

If anyone is interested

Result from Nocster Server :-

[/home2/temp]# wget http://www.ehostingzone.com/uumap.tar.z
--00:12:21-- http://www.ehostingzone.com/uumap.tar.z
=> `uumap.tar.z'
Resolving www.ehostingzone.com... done.
Connecting to www.ehostingzone.com[203.124.126.39]:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 8,520,221 [application/x-tar]

100%[=========================================================================>] 8,520,221 145.44K/s ETA 00:00

00:13:19 (145.44 KB/s) - `uumap.tar.z' saved [8520221/8520221]

Traceroute :-
traceroute to www.ehostingzone.com (203.124.126.39), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 ge-5-0-border.scr1.hostnoc.net (64.191.0.1) 0.362 ms 0.256 ms 0.150 ms
2 sl-gw1-pen-11-0.sprintlink.net (144.228.171.177) 17.495 ms 17.536 ms 17.624 ms
3 sl-bb25-pen-5-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.5.5) 17.835 ms 17.868 ms 17.752 ms
4 sl-bb21-pen-8-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.5.237) 17.975 ms 18.446 ms 17.749 ms
5 sl-bb22-pen-15-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.16.30) 17.818 ms 18.088 ms 18.841 ms
6 sl-bb21-fw-15-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.9.31) 57.558 ms 57.704 ms 58.376 ms
7 sl-bb23-fw-14-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.11.246) 53.269 ms 57.762 ms 53.621 ms
8 sl-bb20-ana-8-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.18.242) 82.606 ms 83.181 ms 81.559 ms
9 sl-st20-la-15-1.sprintlink.net (144.232.20.128) 82.053 ms 82.089 ms 82.307 ms
10 leg-63-169-235-134-CHI.sprinthome.com (63.169.235.134) 86.413 ms 86.889 ms 86.393 ms
11 203.208.168.221 (203.208.168.221) 89.459 ms 88.991 ms 88.990 ms
12 203.208.168.226 (203.208.168.226) 86.565 ms 86.516 ms 87.031 ms
13 p6-3.sngtp-cr2.ix.singtel.com (203.208.172.5) 248.138 ms 247.454 ms 247.647 ms
14 202.160.250.230 (202.160.250.230) 262.782 ms 264.079 ms 262.908 ms
15 203.208.232.38 (203.208.232.38) 262.616 ms 274.398 ms 298.181 ms
16 203.208.232.53 (203.208.232.53) 282.562 ms 247.737 ms 248.062 ms
17 203.208.137.2 (203.208.137.2) 247.332 ms 246.445 ms 246.116 ms
18 203.124.126.39 (203.124.126.39) 265.619 ms 265.670 ms 270.807 ms

-- Ping
64 bytes from 203.124.126.39: icmp_seq=1 ttl=51 time=265 ms
64 bytes from 203.124.126.39: icmp_seq=2 ttl=51 time=266 ms
64 bytes from 203.124.126.39: icmp_seq=3 ttl=51 time=269 ms
64 bytes from 203.124.126.39: icmp_seq=4 ttl=51 time=266 ms
64 bytes from 203.124.126.39: icmp_seq=5 ttl=51 time=278 ms
64 bytes from 203.124.126.39: icmp_seq=6 ttl=51 time=265 ms
64 bytes from 203.124.126.39: icmp_seq=7 ttl=51 time=267 ms
64 bytes from 203.124.126.39: icmp_seq=8 ttl=51 time=271 ms
64 bytes from 203.124.126.39: icmp_seq=9 ttl=51 time=278 ms
64 bytes from 203.124.126.39: icmp_seq=10 ttl=51 time=265 ms
64 bytes from 203.124.126.39: icmp_seq=11 ttl=51 time=269 ms
64 bytes from 203.124.126.39: icmp_seq=12 ttl=51 time=265 ms
64 bytes from 203.124.126.39: icmp_seq=13 ttl=51 time=267 ms

--- www.ehostingzone.com ping statistics ---
14 packets transmitted, 13 received, 7% loss, time 13129ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 265.183/269.088/278.762/4.370 ms

Traceroute from Singapore

Tracing route to www.ehostingzone.com [203.124.126.39]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 57 ms 69 ms 19 ms 10.16.0.1
2 23 ms 19 ms 12 ms 172.20.16.65
3 17 ms 23 ms 43 ms 172.20.2.80
4 17 ms 18 ms 31 ms 172.20.6.1
5 12 ms 17 ms 30 ms 202.160.243.213
6 19 ms 26 ms 30 ms POS3-1.tp-core1.ix.singtel.com [202.160.250.25]

7 37 ms 16 ms 27 ms 202.160.250.226
8 14 ms 28 ms 18 ms 203.208.232.50
9 16 ms 35 ms 32 ms 203.208.232.57
10 28 ms 42 ms 31 ms ccdiro01-v1.sg.singtel-expan.com [203.208.224.82
]
11 44 ms 49 ms 17 ms 203.208.137.2
12 19 ms 12 ms 44 ms 203.124.126.39

Trace complete.

--
Ping From Singapore
Pinging www.ehostingzone.com [203.124.126.39] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 203.124.126.39: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=54
Reply from 203.124.126.39: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=54
Reply from 203.124.126.39: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=54
Reply from 203.124.126.39: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=54

Ping statistics for 203.124.126.39:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 17ms, Maximum = 27ms, Average = 21ms

Originally posted by aragon
ermm... :eek: In reference to your P4 1.7 response; it is true.

Celeron's now use the Pentium 4 core, starting from 1.7 and up.

So essentially it's a P4 Celeron 1.7; I still prefer Celeron 1.7 - as most people will not know that it does have a Pentium 4 core.

thanks for all the answers.. i would like more comments please thanks :)

47 kbps from Austria,Europe. Cable Connection. ( it is not slow, not as fast as some but it's ok)

i have decide to offer athlon xp 1700 256mb ram and 40 gig hdd instead.. for $120 per mth.. is it too expensive?

try the speed

wget ftp://test:test@ftp.inforev.com.sg/uumap.tar.z

so what do you guys think?wats the right price?

If you want to make this a no brainer. Try $79/mo, increasing the RAM to 512, HD to 60GB, offering plesk, cpanel and be prepared to answer and substanstiate network details. I'd also kill the setup fee and think about 2 months in advanced. Again I would think about it.

As is I would not pay more than $59/mo.

Originally posted by critical
hi i am from singapore..this is just a survey not selling.. i would like to check if i offer p4 1.7 celeron 256mb ram 30gb harddisk for $150 USD per month and $120USD setup fee at singapore singtel datacentre.. on a shared 100mbps line .. unmetered.. would monitor the line if traffic gets too much would get another line.. .. .. unmanaged server .. just plain redhat 7.3 and most probably webmin if needed.. what do you guys think? too expensive ? too cheap? whats the right price than?

so whats the best price to price at?

wow man, i think you need to learn how to draw a conclusion out of what people are saying.

If you cant make simple decisions especially when people are handing you the info, this isnt the biz for you.

would this be a better price? athlon xp 1700 , 40 gig hdd , 256mb ram .. unmetered bandwidth.. and 2 ip address

for $150 setup fee and $89 per month

89 SGD or USD?

While Singtel gives you a 100mbit, and do not meter it, it basically means that it's the same for the whole data center. The performance can drop drastically during peak times/hours. I don't think it's worth it unless my site/server audience is in Singapore.