I don't know if this is the right place to advertise. Please tell me if I wrote this in the wrong place.

Thank you


$15.00 USD per year for many features including CGI-BIN, PHP4 support, unlimited MySQL database, FTP account, WAP server, and more...


Check it out at http://www.9kd.net

Ummm.
Unlimited Space ?

I must tell you One thing & that is :-

WHT members would go gor a 50MB account rather that an unlimited one !

The Last time I saw the biggest hard drive it was for sure less the Unlimited GB.

Please Escuse Me If You Think I am Harsh ! Sorry !

It's alright.
I'm not offended.

We're a donhost reseller.
It says unlimited space on their site.
That's why I put unlimited space as well.

This is for tight budget webmasters who wants quality hosting :)

I have two accounts signed up <<EDIT>>
their support is very good :D

Thank you :)

no clue how donhost profits off this but ok :) hehe

http://www.9kd.net/ep.shtml

What's "micropage frontpage extentions"?

Thank you
We've fixed the mistake now

i wouldn't suggest this business model... suppose you don't make enough customers to profit ? suppose you lose? 15 a year is good but ok... you get possibly 7 customers - these 7 customers would bring you not enough to cover what donhost causes monthly when you add up annual costs...

Suppose you decide that your not doing well and you stop service? How would htis 15/year person still have a host?

Thank you for your concerns, but we will not close 9kd.net.

Are you really offering 15 gb a month and unlimited HD space for just $15 a year

what if I got past the 15 gb a month how much for the extra GB's

I really suggest you review your business plan. $15/year is driving you right into the red numbers. You're offering 15GB bandwidth for $15/year. DonHost gives you 50GB bandwidth per month.

Lets say you have only 5 (!!) customers that use 15GB bandwidth per month ...which already exceedes the 50GB's. That would make you $75 per year ...$6.25 per month!! of revenue. I don't think that is enough to cover your reseller account fees, credit card processing charges, work time, etc.

I would agree that I'd like to see "real" numbers for space and that rather than "unlimited" in most cases. The main nice thing about "unlimited" is you don't have to worry about "overusage" in any respect.....at least in theory. Honestly, 50mb, 1-2GB traffic for $15/year wouldn't be all that bad either, but it's your call. If you can balance the books with your setup, more power to ya!

Looking at the plan, the one area that I "am" considering a possible additional domain for is "outside" mail/personal site. Since I am moving my two sites to a single host currently, I want to have a good "off-network" POP account and maybe a small space site to go with it....more a personal avenue than commercial/organizational as I have now. Small space, low bandwidth and flexible email(POP) features, and low price are what matter there. Thus, your offering has some appeal to me. Where it hit a deadend is that you only take credit cards right now. If you could accept paper payments(I always make mailed payments in postal money orders), I would consider this more, but CCs only dead-ends things....I don't use them! If you change this, write me, I'd be more interested!

BTW....though it may not seem a "big" market, I do think the mail primary or maybe even "small space" sites are a potential market angle. Think of all the Freebie space users, and many of them, if they knew they could have similar sites on their OWN space for about $1-2/month, who knows....would be a "volume" market and one that hits the "service" area more as they aren't as they are less likely to understand all that a site involves. Oh well....

PS.....didn't see if IPs are included....I'm assuming not at that price, which, for the rate, I couldn't complain. Wish ya well....

Michael

I also suggest rethink that pricing:
I dont think they give you that type of accounts,for $1.25 a month.
I mean its a great deal,but I dont see how you will stay in business like that.

Are you serious?

I have a client with graphical site that will probably need unlimited bandwidth and file size. Can I switch over the hosting to you guys at 9kd.net

I am talking about at least 40GB per month and about 2GB of space and growing...

I thought it was 10 gigs of bandwidth,not 40
Maybe I'm confused.

The Bandwith its gone down from 15GB to 10GB :confused:

I wonder what will it be in a few days

Originally posted by eddie
The Bandwith its gone down from 15GB to 10GB :confused:

I wonder what will it be in a few days

I had the same question and posted on the hosting discussion forum. It seemed they changed it from unlimited to 15gb to 10gb in a very short time.

At least they are learning something, but at the same time, it shows they are not experience in hosting business.

Wondering when it will lower the bandwidth again.

ebird

10 GIG is our final plan.
We will not lower it anymore.

I do not understand how you will stay open.
Your reselling package gets 50 gigs of b/w.You give each account 10,that gives you 5 accounts times 15$ a year wich is 75$ a year.I think that your package costed 300 pounds wich is about 400$ I think.How do you plan on staying open?
Correct me if I'm wrong...but before I buy...I wanna make sure you will be open in a year down the road.

to 9kd.net:

If you don't go online, that's fine. But if you do, do you answer questions by email?

I sent a message to 9kd.net with 5 questions about two days ago, and still not got a reply.

I do need about 10GB per month. Are you sure you can handle it?

ebird

?
We've answered all of our E-mails.
Which E-mail address did you send your questions to?

umm..does unlimited subdomains mean unlimited FTP accounts? :confused:

support@9kd.net
I think this is the one listed on your web, right?

What's your E-mail address ebird.
Our support said he replied to all the E-mails. I will personally go through all the E-mail to see if there are any E-mails that haven't been answered.

umm..does unlimited subdomains mean unlimited FTP accounts?

Yes

hmm...9kd.net sounds like a really good deal...is there a lot of downtimes?

Hi 9kd,

Why you use everyone.net for your email service? It's weired.

By the way, you asked me what kind of site I have and I have replied by email.

It seems you are still gambling that people will not use 10GB per month.

ebird

I've checked the E-mail.
You asked the support if you can use above 10 GIG/month and he asked you if you will be interested in our 30 GIG/month deal for $9.00 in the future.

Yes, we will host your account.

Originally posted by ~steph~
hmm...9kd.net sounds like a really good deal...is there a lot of downtimes?

No, there is barely any downtime :)


Sorry for double posting

I also could use 10 gigs a month,thats 2 10 gig sites,half of your bandwidth is gone between us now.

We can co-locate our servers in efreeservers.
They are extremely cheap. $800.00 for 800 GIGS.

Now I'm confused,are you a reseller,or do you own servers?

Well
We're not going to be a reseller forever.

We already own a lan/internet computer business. We can easily build a computer, install softwares, and colocate it.

Okay,when you own your servers and can control what happens to the sites on them,I will be interested.

okay

We're coming out with a new deal when we colocate our servers.

Please check it out at http://www.9kdhost.com
We'll announce it in the 9kd.net when we do.

Thank you for your patience.

will 9kd.net still be up when 9kdhost.com goes up?

Yes
9kd.net will be up with the same plan $15.00 per year.

For 15$ par years

it's for hosting too ?

for this i can host on your servers my domain ?

Now, I'm no expert, but it's been quite evident to me that people who offer anything unlimited other than (auto responders, email forwarding or catch all aliases) do not hold a lot of credibility.

I respect all the opinions I get from Web Hostnig Talk, and I try to learn from their advice. Yet you still are being stubburn and unwilling to realize that you're embarassing yourself.

I'm not attacking you personally, but you are not being smart! most of the people in here are just trying to help you out. They want everyone to be successful and not go belly up.

With your current hosting plan, you're setting yourself up to fail. Unlimited space and 10 GIGs for $15.00 US a year?

The last time I checked, Donhosts only allowed 50 Gigs of Transfer.

So, if you had 5 customers who consumed their maxium bandiwdth. you will get $75.00 for a year. But, Donhosts charges you (depeding on the cycle)
£359.99 annually, = 509.39 US dollars
£98.99 quarterly - £395.96 = 560.29 US dollars
£35.99 monthly - £431.88 = 611.11 US dollars

Now, if you choose to prepay for an year's services you stand to lose $434.39 US Dollars in the first year.

Now, the last time I checked, that wasn't a good thing!

Take the advice of these people, and lower your bandwidth limitations...Specify an amount of webspace.

Here's a suggestion
$40.00 US/Year for
300 MB
3 MB Bandwidth

If you had 16 Accounts(Max Possible to be under 50 GIGs) = $640 US.

Good luck!

Thank you for your suggestions, but we are staying with our current plan.
We will co-locate our servers when we need to.

I would love to go with 9kd...I need 10 gigs of b/w...but not at 15$ a year,they will NOT be able to keep that price,therefor meaning they will not be reliable enough for my company.

9kd is definitely not a solution for companies!

Which company wants to put its web on a $15/year plan? I recommend you use it for personal websites. $15 for unlimited space and 10GB bandwidth, that's the best alternative to free hosting.

ebird

to 9kd.net:

Dear Support team,
Are you guys checking your e-mail? I have sent 3 emails for the past 2 days and have not had any reply.

Hope to hear from you soon :)

We've checked your E-mail. Your account works. Your domain name hasn't fully propogated before.

We've also sent you a reply.

Thanks for the reply.

You said it worked alreay. but I tried to pinging the domain name and it is still not showing anything. Its been 3 days already now. Should I wait a little longer?

Thanks for your support :)

Regards,
Jimmy

Thanks for your reply :)

Hmmm. I've had a support ticket open for 48 hours, haven't heard anything. Just opened a second one. Question: Are you committed to 24-hour support request turnaround?

Since the first support ticket was similar to the one that happened today, we've replied to your latest support ticket within few hours.

$15 per year is dirt cheap

I guess you get what you paid for. Luckily for me, I transfer a domain name that I don't need.

I was actually going to move more sites to their server. But all this problem just convinced me that I should not move anymore domain to their server.

I hope my domain works though.. I just want to see what kind of service(reliability) a $15/year company can offer ;)

We never had a problem this big until 2 days ago.
This is not a frequently occuring problem. We've gotten an E-mail from Donhost that they were having problems with our servers and we've posted it on our forums.

You can also see that directoris.com is also having the same problem that we are.

Thank you for being patient.

9kd,

Thanks for the reply to the second ticket. Please note that the first ticket I opened has nothing at all to do with the second, and I really need a reply to that ticket as well. Thanks in advance.

-- Jon Bender

Originally posted by big_smooth

So, if you had 5 customers who consumed their maxium bandiwdth. you will get $75.00 for a year. But, Donhosts charges you (depeding on the cycle)
?59.99 annually, = 509.39 US dollars
?8.99 quarterly - ?95.96 = 560.29 US dollars
?5.99 monthly - ?31.88 = 611.11 US dollars

Now, if you choose to prepay for an year's services you stand to lose $434.39 US Dollars in the first year.


I'm just thinking, according to the currency convert to US, if it costs $509.39 USD a year, and, suppose only 10% customers exceed the 10 gb transfer limit, they will need at least 31 customers to cover the costs... right? :rolleyes: Because not much of the customers will exceed 11gb transfer... I GUESS. :D Of course, when they have more customers, they will get more money after minor the $509 USD that DonHost costs.

By the way, is there a lot of website reach more than 10 gb a month? I am innocent of this kind of things... :stickout

$15/year for 10GB of bandwidth per month would be ...

$0.125 per GB

<huge :D>

(Sheesh! Did everyone in this forum suddenly take a "nice pill" or something?)


These people are simply banking on statistical averages. It's as clear as day. If they have enough recourses to expand when they need to, it will probably work. Credible or incredible as their business plan may be, what it boils down to is how they keep from overselling their servers and how they handle their customers through thick and thin.

I say, give them, or anyone who wants to try a little something new, if not radical, the benefit of the doubt. Wait, and see what happens. Whatever happens will be a learning experience for everyone, all the way around, up or down.


Bottom line, ya just gotta admit, their plan is more reasonable that someone taking 500MB of resold hosting space and creating 10GBs worth of 50MB hosting accounts. Right folks?

Hello

I also think that the prices (15/year) is not logical.

You may know that donhost closed account of one of his resellers not long ago for traffic reasons(and content).

So review your prices. You pay 375 pounds and sell it for $70 ???

This is not good for webhosting market too.

I wish we no more see hosts like TAcid... ( sorry ...)

Regards,
Mac

Originally posted by sarmadys

...This is not good for webhosting market too.




Holy cow! I never thought of that. "...not good for the webhosting market." Hmmmmmm, ponder, ponder, ponder.

Sarmadys. Just so I can get a better grasp of what you are talking about here; Is "the web hosting market" made up of hosters, or those that are hosted? And in any case, what exactly is there in what this hosting company offers, that is not good for the market?

Just wondering.

Originally posted by JoeM

Just so I can get a better grasp of what you are talking about here; Is "the web hosting market" made up of hosters, or those that are hosted? And in any case, what exactly is there in what this hosting company offers, that is not good for the market?
Just wondering.

In fact I just worry that they can not continue and leave a bad view in "those hosted" minds.

Search for TAcidhost and see what happend here not long ago. They also hosted their customers on FASTHOSTS and DONHOST (as 9kd.net does) and if you want to see how they harmed web hosting market just search for their name here ...

Regards,
Mac

Evolution of "Too good to be true hosts"

1- They start offering unlimited space, bandwidth and McChicken with a side order of fries. :buck:
2- People love the offer and buy out the plans in masses...everything is cool :beer:
3- Reality kicks in :unhappy: Statistical average does not work for small companies!! :crap:
4-company goes belly up :nuke:


Now I go an sign up for my $15 yearly plan.. :D (Stage 2)

9kdnet, send me your details and I will add your company under budget hosting. Best of luck with your new business.