By God I'm annoyed.... Lemme explain the situation.

Yesterday afternoon I saw a nice job opening through my local University where I would be paid a good $x/hour for maintaining an accounting firm's Ethernet network, PCs, notebooks and their Exchange server. Right up my alley, I thought, so I merrily sent my application in last night. I had noted in my cover letter, "I hope to hear from you very soon. Thanks for your consideration!"

Just now (about 14 hours after I sent my original application in) I've checked my e-mail to see a response from their HR department saying, "Thank you, but your application was unsuccessful." How bloody ironic.

Let me point out a couple of things here which really sh*ts me :

1. The company allowed 18 hours only for people to submit their applications. What happens to the applications that are sent in today or over the next few days? That's just ridiculous.

How can you possibly choose the best candidate for the job if you restrict your 'applications' timeframe to just 18 hours???? Their HR department needs to be retrained at University/college in proper HR procedures.

(this is where specialising in HR at University comes in sooooo handy :rolleyes: )

2. There was no prescribed 'due date' for the applications, despite it being standard practice to insert one for the benefit of both employer and employee.

If they had to get an applicant in dead quick, why didn't they state the due date, and why didn't they act on this long ago??

3. Despite wording my CV + cover letter to clearly show I had commercial experience in handling Ethernet networks + Exchange, I was still rebuffed.


Just had to get it off my chest.... But I'm still not happy. Out of respect for them I won't name them, but by geez their HR department certainly requires an overhauling..... Big thumbs down for this guy.

Let me also make this clear : I don't mind being rebuffed for a job if it's plain clear I'm unsuitable, or there's a better candidate they found. However, the way they've acted has really set it off within me.



P.S. For all those wondering, yes, my resume has been sussed out by a recruitment agency and given a solid thumbs-up.

Could be that a human didn't even look at your email. Organizations that receive lots of resumes by email run them through a little filtering program that hunts for the proper buzzwords. If it doesn't find enough of them, then a job candidate gets the automatic "thanks but no thanks" reply.

My advice: Phone 'em!

Originally posted by alchiba
Could be that a human didn't even look at your email.


That's what I'm thinking..... :rolleyes:

BC....you know what they say
"persistance pays off"
I would be calling for sure.
Shows your interest and being a little persistent is a good thing..especially for something like that.
Good Luck!

Persistence does pay.

Usually, better run HR departments make some honest effort at 'filtering' the applications received.
Often they dont reject candidates outright but keep applications to consider for future posts. This can be especially useful if they are looking for a suitable person at very short notice.

There have been a few cases where I've been called for an interview without proper scrutinising of my resume and judging of suitability.

The occasion which takes the cake was when a company called me for an interview at short notice, put me through 4 interviews and then rejected me because, though the interviews had gone well, I didnt have the minimum academic qualifications required for the job !.

Often you run better chances of being judged properly if
your resume is forwarded by an employee of the company as they then put more effort to read it properly.

Im surprised about recruitment agencies as very often they help highlight your suitability to the candidature.

Cheers,


Matra

BC...

Here's a useful tip....

Buy the company and fire the personnel/HR manager..

Seriously though... life is full of these little aberrations, and you will no doubt find a better position in timely manner... so relax..
:D

Originally posted by felix220
BC...

Here's a useful tip....

Buy the company and fire the personnel/HR manager..


That's what I'd like to do, but I'm not sure the..... errrrr.......... dinosaurs in that company would appreciate it :D

At larger companies or universities I have seen very often that a job for which they made an ad or such was already given away "under the hands". The ad was only to keep the face.
(excuse my poor english)

Originally posted by BC
By God I'm annoyed.... Lemme explain the situation.

Yesterday afternoon I saw a nice job opening through my local University where I would be paid a good $x/hour for maintaining an accounting firm's Ethernet network, PCs, notebooks and their Exchange server. Right up my alley, I thought, so I merrily sent my application in last night. I had noted in my cover letter, "I hope to hear from you very soon. Thanks for your consideration!"

Just now (about 14 hours after I sent my original application in) I've checked my e-mail to see a response from their HR department saying, "Thank you, but your application was unsuccessful." How bloody ironic.

Let me point out a couple of things here which really sh*ts me :

1. The company allowed 18 hours only for people to submit their applications. What happens to the applications that are sent in today or over the next few days? That's just ridiculous.

How can you possibly choose the best candidate for the job if you restrict your 'applications' timeframe to just 18 hours???? Their HR department needs to be retrained at University/college in proper HR procedures.

(this is where specialising in HR at University comes in sooooo handy :rolleyes: )

2. There was no prescribed 'due date' for the applications, despite it being standard practice to insert one for the benefit of both employer and employee.

If they had to get an applicant in dead quick, why didn't they state the due date, and why didn't they act on this long ago??

3. Despite wording my CV + cover letter to clearly show I had commercial experience in handling Ethernet networks + Exchange, I was still rebuffed.


Just had to get it off my chest.... But I'm still not happy. Out of respect for them I won't name them, but by geez their HR department certainly requires an overhauling..... Big thumbs down for this guy.

Let me also make this clear : I don't mind being rebuffed for a job if it's plain clear I'm unsuitable, or there's a better candidate they found. However, the way they've acted has really set it off within me.



P.S. For all those wondering, yes, my resume has been sussed out by a recruitment agency and given a solid thumbs-up.

BC,

Chances are this job was posted only because it was required to be. Frequently, at least in my experience, managers and/or HR personnel already have someone in mind when they post a job. So they post it as a formality, and immediately offer the position to whomever they had in mind.

It sounds like this may have just happened to you. Don't sweat it, if they work this way, you probably didn't really want to work for them anyways. :)

Take care,

Brian

and who owes you a favor...

BC, I've worked for a number of large organizations (educational, medical, government and corporate) and they are required to follow certain procedures for posting jobs, including making them available to the public. By setting ridiculous expectations, they can ensure that the jobs are most likely to be filled by a bid on the position from within or from someone who 'knows someone' on the inside.

What's really sad is that the person who got that job is most likely not qualified for it. I've seen that happen way too many times and it's not pretty.

It cant hurt to call them up and ask why you were declined, at least in the future youll know what to do different.