Hello All,

Dont you think that people who dont use the domain names the registrar should release them. Anywat thats a debatable issue.

What i want to ask is that i wanted to buy out a domain that was registered, almost 5 years ago , still not being used. But they did not reply,

Now the interesting part is that the domain is expiring in next 48 hours, still not renewed . Thinking that if they do not renew the name what are the chances of netsol releasing it so that i can book it. Does it get deleted immediately.

Regards

Manish Kapadia

Yea right, if your lucky they will release it in 2 months to the general public but many times its much much longer...

NetSol is notorious for not properly releasing domain names. I'd say don't hold your breath for the next 48 hours to bring a sudden change of heart.

Here's an example for you. We had someone sign up and request that a domain be registered. It went through our automatic form at Bulk Register, and returned an error. We notified the client, and asked if there was another domain name they would prefer to use instead. The customer responded that they had originally owned the domain, that NetSol had not notified them that it was about to expire, and it lapsed. They obviously did not want to pay NetSol another $35/year to have the domain, so they left it alone. Back on forth on this a couple of times, and we tried to register it again, with no luck. Then, out of the blue, someone else registered it at 3AM one morning, and wouldn't you know it, it went right through - but they did it AT NetSol. So not only is our client forced to use a different domain name, NetSol didn't "release" the domain in the strictest sense of the word, unless of course someone wanted to use their service to register the thing. This did not make the client warm and fuzzy, but at least they directed their anger where proper: at NetSol. We were pretty torqued about it ourselves. It just makes me happier than ever that we moved every single domain we registered with them away somewhere else. I don't like doing business with companies that act in that manner.

Originally posted by Annette
It just makes me happier than ever that we moved every single domain we registered with them away somewhere else. I don't like doing business with companies that act in that manner.

Yes, NetSol and register.com are loosing many customers.... :)

Annette

Do you mean to say that expired domains @ netsol are released only when someone wants to use their service to register the domains and will show unavailable at other places.

If it is so then its very very UNFAIR on their part to do it.
Anyway for this domain if i get it i would also not mind paying netsol and getting it out from them in 60 days.

Todays 29th , It is supposed to expire on 31st. Not yet renewed. Cannot risk giving name here:D

Does netsol give some grace period after the domain is expired

i guess i have to wait

Regards
Manish Kapadia

Originally posted by mpkapadia
Todays 29th , It is supposed to expire on 31st. Not yet renewed. Cannot risk giving name here:D

Lycos would probably renew that domain you're after. :D

Check out a thread here by Tim Greer, who was in a similar situation:

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=10393

Mark Vockler
Aletia Hosting

As discussed in another thread on this board, I've been waiting for NetSol to release some expired domains for well over a year. And, these domains (I know for a fact) are not in dispute, have not been renewed/paid for or anything else. This seems to be common. Their expiring date certainly doesn't mean it will become available then, or soon after. But, it _should_ mean it eventually will become available. However, that might also be well over a year.

I say this about them and how I know they haven't been renewed, they show have been expired for over a year and I know the people that own them. Now, granted these one's I speak of aren't one's I'm interested in, or I'd ask the people I know to hand them over, but it does show what happens as a testing medium and why the other domains that I _do_ want have also not been released for well over a year, still. NetSol was of absolutely not help either -- to the point of being completely incompetent and suspicious -- even for domains that would have no real value either.

I personally think they are holding onto whatever they can, as so many people are going to competing registrar's.. this way, they can still corner the market. I'm not going to even dare try and move my NetSol registered domains from them, out of shear concern that someone else will grab them while they are transferred to another registrar -- NetSol would say "oops" and I'd be out domains. I think Annette's experience about not being able to register a domain that was previously registered through NetSol, as fast as you can directly through them might help support my theory about them and their tactics. Something is not right and they are being real prick's about domains. You have a long wait, I promise you... unless you're lucky.... If you are that lucky, I need you to tell me 6 numbers, please.

Manish, what I mean is that NetSol seems to do pretty much as they darn well please. In this particular instance, it appears that unless one wanted to register the domain through them, they were not going to release it.

They do give a grace period. But although the grace period in the past, when they had their monopoly was about a month, now it could be anywhere from a day to several years, dependent, I suppose, on how valuable they think the name is to them. Or something. Who knows? They certainly won't tell anyone.

Netsol the original king of the hill certainly takes it's time releasing domains into the pool. All you can do is watch and wait, raising your blood pressure isn't going to get your wanted domain released any faster, I know, I have a list that are expired by 4 months to 2 years.

Back in the day when you could register a domain name prior to making payment you can make a simple guess at how many were registered. I know I personally registered quite a few around the 1999-2000 date and to this date a bunch still remain with netsol, whois info is current and never once have I posted payment. I began recieving deactivation notices about a year ago, a few domains dropped and I picked them right back up with OpenSRS, much obliged! Aside from that, yeah they're holding out for sure. Since you cannot transfer a domain name that has a payment due, i've been buying them up little by little when I have the extra cash. But, wow does $70 bucks seem painful after paying under $20... The only good side is the originality of the domains you could get two to three years back, occasionaly you get more than your money's worth for them.

I can't imagine paying $35.00/year for a domain when you can pick em up for approx. $10.80/year at Joker (http://www.joker.com) those $70.00 pop's were painfull!

We had a similair problem. One of our clients had a domain registered with netsol. They forgot to renew it. It expired but still in first week of the one month lock-in period when they came to us.

The customer was not too happy of paying 35$ for renewal so we tried purchasing it through other registrars (BulkRegister, namesecure, joker, gandi.net etc.). All the attempts were not successful. We did not
try through register.com as we had adverse feedback about them from some of our customers (They try a whois through register.com and lo !, the domain name gets blocked. Happened many times.. )

Just when we decided to renew the domain through netsol itself, all of a sudden, we find another person had purchased the domain through register.com. This person then promptly put it up for sale along with a large number of other domains.)

I cannot understand why or how this could happen. Our customer was using the domain name for a couple of years. It was about a trade fair event which was about to take place in 5-6 days time. We contacted
the person who purchased the domain. He offered to let us use it for a few weeks free of cost !. But ultimately,
things did not materialise and our customer was unable to host the site in time and ended up losing a lot.

None of our domain names we purchased anew are from netsol. We mostly work with bulkregister. They also send reminders well in advance about expiring domains and generally give good service.


Matra

Matra,

Domain transfers and renewals are something that should never be taken lightly. this we learnt after we had similar problems like yours. Now we advise or rather ensure all our clients renew their domain names atleast a month in advance specially when there is going to be a registrar transfer.

A month would be good enough a time to ensure that nothing goes wrong and customers dont scream.

I still have a few domains at netsol and i am sure we are going to move those too out of them

Meanwhile i just have to wait and hope that my domain is not renewed and they release it.

Rgds
Manish Kapadia

Yes the common thread is true... don't hold your breath :)

I've been waiting on one to drop for a while now. The whois record shows the following:

Record last updated on 09-Jan-2001.
Record expires on 09-Nov-2000.
Record created on 09-Nov-1998.
Database last updated on 29-May-2001 19:03:00 EDT

I took a look at the nameservers it's attached to, yep, they're expired too, no site to be found doing a search on their name. You couldn't get more of a dead duck. The *only* reason it's not available is it's a catchy name.

Greg Moore

The replies here are very disheartening.:(

Manish Kapadia