When I look at Rackshack and Nocster, the dedicated servers are extremely low.

I am wondering... On the WHT market today, how much will this be worth (monthly)?

Celeron 1.7Ghz
512MB DDRRAM
60GB HD
Red Hat Linux 7.3
320GB Bandwidth (AT&T, Sprint, Cogent, Williams)
CPanel5 / WHM (Optional: $45/mo)

Not including the optional feature, how much should this be?

I'm wondering because I have 5 of these and I'd like to make use of them. heh.

rackshack doesn't support cpanel.

I know, but I'm offering it as an option (as stated above).

You forgot the Bandwidht part? It is easier for us to judge pricing after we know how much bandwidth do we get initially. 500 GB multihomed ? :)

heh, thanks. I knew i was forgetting something...
Might explain the lack of replies.

I'm wondering because I have 5 of these and I'd like to make use of them. heh.

hee hee time to get rid some of it? :D

Definitely.

so someone please give me a reasonable price, as you will probably see those pricing in March from me. lol.

$150 a month :)

Seems kind of high, I was looking at around $89.95/mo with a $99.95 setup fee. Do you think anyone will go for that?

Originally posted by Revnet
Seems kind of high, I was looking at around $89.95/mo with a $99.95 setup fee. Do you think anyone will go for that?

Defintely nice price, what datacenter?

Revnet if you are in a good DC, I'll take one for $129 mo / 99.95 setup with cpanel (included) :)

Originally posted by ALTCO
Revnet if you are in a good DC, I'll take one for $129 mo / 99.95 setup with cpanel (included) :)

Hah, good luck finding a plan like that.

Originally posted by JonL
Defintely nice price, what datacenter?

The servers are located in Toronto but they will soon be moved to a data center in Kansas City.

I'll be purchasing half a rack for room for 10 servers in total (As I will have Pentium 4 servers as well). 2 dedicated UPS backups along with a data center wide power backup system. They are only 3 years old, but I've seen their facility and it's top notch.

Hopefully I'll be able to get rid of my 10 servers within one month.

I'm not announcing the data centers as it'll be announced in the company press release as well as the data centers press release.

Once the time comes (sometime in march), I wonder how long it'll take for my 5 - 10 servers to run out.

Originally posted by Revnet
Hah, good luck finding a plan like that.

:confused: $129 a month isn't bad since you said you was planning on offering them at $89.95 a month, with cPanel included, it totals up to $134 a month, but whats $5.00 :D

Originally posted by JWise
:confused: $129 a month isn't bad since you said you was planning on offering them at $89.95 a month, with cPanel included, it totals up to $134 a month, but whats $5.00 :D

If I offered the prices that low, they will be flying off the shelves in a few seconds as will my wallet.

At $89.95/mo, I won't be making that much of a profit.

I've noticed something.

With dedicated servers, everyone considers anything over $99 to be a little high.

Does anyone here know roughly what a datacenter costs? Millions upon millions.... if I did dedicated server SELLING - you can be DAMN sure I'd be a "managed dedicated" provider, thus I don't have to compete with $99/month servers. Rackspace's cheapest server is $250/month, and it's pure crap.

If you want a decent server with 400gb of bandwidth, you're looking at like $1500 - $1600 a month.

If you want to go with ServInt, who are very reasonably priced, that same server is around $500 a month... unless you get a WHT member discount, then you'll end up getting something like that at $299 a month....

That's reasonable.

Everyone wants a powerhouse machine with 600gb of bandwidth for no more that $200 a month... that's rediculous.

Again, anyone know the cost of just LEASING an OC-12? It's not cheap.

Rackshack has been successful because they are unmanaged, have some non-expensive bandwidth... and have only a few techs onstaff at a time for reboots and simple support questions.

But sheesh.... that kind of server with 320gb of bandwidth and you're paying for a 10U rack and you're charging $89.95/month? You gotta be making like $10/month from that.... a person getting a server is BOUND to take up more than two hours of your time in that month.

If your time is worth less than $5/hr on average to you.. well, then.. yeah.

Anyways, My 2cents. Wasn't trying to bash... I just don't understand the concept of it.

Originally posted by Lirath
I've noticed something.

With dedicated servers, everyone considers anything over $99 to be a little high.

Does anyone here know roughly what a datacenter costs? Millions upon millions.... if I did dedicated server SELLING - you can be DAMN sure I'd be a "managed dedicated" provider, thus I don't have to compete with $99/month servers. Rackspace's cheapest server is $250/month, and it's pure crap.

If you want a decent server with 400gb of bandwidth, you're looking at like $1500 - $1600 a month.

If you want to go with ServInt, who are very reasonably priced, that same server is around $500 a month... unless you get a WHT member discount, then you'll end up getting something like that at $299 a month....

That's reasonable.

Everyone wants a powerhouse machine with 600gb of bandwidth for no more that $200 a month... that's rediculous.

Again, anyone know the cost of just LEASING an OC-12? It's not cheap.

Rackshack has been successful because they are unmanaged, have some non-expensive bandwidth... and have only a few techs onstaff at a time for reboots and simple support questions.

But sheesh.... that kind of server with 320gb of bandwidth and you're paying for a 10U rack and you're charging $89.95/month? You gotta be making like $10/month from that.... a person getting a server is BOUND to take up more than two hours of your time in that month.

If your time is worth less than $5/hr on average to you.. well, then.. yeah.

Anyways, My 2cents. Wasn't trying to bash... I just don't understand the concept of it.

I definitely agree with this, except maybe the over exaggerated price for a good server.

You have to notice that IP addresses and such costs a lot as well.

$89.95/mo is definitely a bargain in my opinion. If I can sell off all 10 of these in one month, I may very well apply for a Cpanel NOC and lower the CPanel prices down from $45/mo to about $25/mo.

But to accomplish that, I will first need to get rid of my first 10 servers with or without CPanel.

Also, on the topic of "your time is worth less"...
Why would I attempt to step into this business if there wasn't a good deal of profit to be made? It all depends on how you treat your customers, what you offer, and how they react to it.

Profit may be on my mind, but it's not the only thing on my mind. With those prices I may be offering, yes, my profits will be marginal and my time put in will not bring in the profits I deserve in the short term.

Whats more important? Profits? or Expansion?
The only way you are going to make a profit is with customer satisfaction, and in turn... expansion. If you only think about profits, this type of market is a bad idea since it has obviously proven to us that it's not a diamond mine and rather, a black hole. But if you play it right, there is always money to be made.

Customers always coming and going... what kind of message is that conveying to you? I am attempting to build a long term relationship with customers who are willing to come back for more.

The above may be a bunch of mumbo jumbo to many, so I'll just summarize my point....

My short term goal is to get a customer base. My long term goal is to improve my reputation (on going).

The key is not to focus on profits, but improving the services you offer and to satisfy those customers. Focus on those two things and the profits will come gradually, you are only throwing out your money if profit is your sole purpose.

My response to you.