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3listen
02-24-2003, 03:55 AM
Go to www.storedataonline.com
THEIR PRICE IS STUPID!!!!!!
I can get anything with $5750/month
they offer
30GB space
500GB Bandwidth
for $5750/month
I hope they are in Yen!
if they are talking about US dollars...then I guess they will have 0 clients in their database!

Akash
02-24-2003, 03:59 AM
that site smells fishy....

perroloco
02-24-2003, 04:01 AM
From their website:

"...Our plans are the cheapest on the market. They offer you the most amount of space along with maximized bandwidth at very affordable prices...."

Yikes. And they choose to use PayPal for $5k transactions. They've got balls, I'll give them that.

synergymax
02-24-2003, 04:05 AM
My favourite part >

"StoreDataOnline.com started from the brinks of nothingness and quickly evolved into a powerful, professional, and courageous company. When we first started this company, we were offering our users unlimted space and bandwidth for ridiculously cheap prices. That strategy however wasn't flawless, we soon began to experience massive growing pains and the quality of our service began to become less than optimal."

VNPIXEL
02-24-2003, 04:19 AM
nope. they are in Union City, NJ 07087 so it is US dollar. :)

CoryH
02-24-2003, 06:28 AM
My first post, but I thought this was a little bit too weird to pass up.

Nyx5000: You shoudl move the decimals for the prices on your plans over to the left a couple of digits, i think you made some massive typoes.
SDO Services: and you are?
Nyx5000: The typo police
SDO Services: i see, one of the major useless entities on earth
Nyx5000: the site, isn't serious about the prices, is it?
SDO Services: sure, the site is serious
SDO Services: it depends on how serious you are
Nyx5000: definetly not serious enough for those prices ;-)
SDO Services: not many people are
Nyx5000: so about how many clients do you server
SDO Services: our services aren't for everyone
Nyx5000: serve*
Nyx5000: they are for people who had a lobatamy (sp.)
SDO Services: heh, i have well over enough
SDO Services: to suite my needs
Nyx5000: if you found just one idiot to buy the last plan, you would be set for a while lol
SDO Services: i'm actually not making much of a profit off of that. That price is as low as it can get
SDO Services: all these people are getting dedicated bandwidth
Nyx5000: The "affordable plan" and "family plan" i could possibly even see
Nyx5000: but after that the prices are jsut inflated
Nyx5000: and thats an understatement
SDO Services: as i said, our services aren't for everyone
Nyx5000: ok
Nyx5000: am i missing something
SDO Services: dedicated bandwidth costs
SDO Services: we're not accepting any new customers anyway
SDO Services: we're all filled up
Nyx5000: oh ok.
Nyx5000: damn
Nyx5000: ;-)
SDO Services: may i ask how you found out about us?
Nyx5000: webhostingtalk.com of course
SDO Services: ok, thanks
Nyx5000: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=116298
SDO Services: hehe, that's funny
SDO Services: interesting how people talk
Nyx5000: yes well
Nyx5000: i dont understand how, with the many sites available that offer dirt cheap prices with decent connectivity, you seriously offer prices like that on this site.... i think you are actually joking about it
SDO Services: it's really no joke. If you do some research on dedicated bandwidth, you'll soon understand. All those "dirt cheap" hosters out there either off your really cheap servers and very bad shared bandwidth
SDO Services: you really get what you pay for
SDO Services: offer*
SDO Services: but don't worry, i predict withint he next 2-3 years, those prcies will be going down by over 75 percent
SDO Services: i have a new plan that can save millions
SDO Services: good for both you and I
Nyx5000: is this an evil plan
Nyx5000: what is your plan
SDO Services: well, it will definitely be the talk
SDO Services: you'll hear about it
Nyx5000: erm ok
Nyx5000: how about i hear about this plan now
Nyx5000: dammit
SDO Services: heh
Nyx5000: why chose you? huh?!?!
Nyx5000: tdo you have a schpiel about that
SDO Services: simple, if you need optimal performance
SDO Services: all the time
SDO Services: then you'd better stick with us
SDO Services: we don't joke around when it comes to performance
Nyx5000: oh, ok
Nyx5000: so are people allowed to host anything, than
SDO Services: anything legal
SDO Services: as goes with all hosts
Nyx5000: well, the only reason i could see anyone paying that kind of money monthly, is to host something illegal lol
SDO Services: whoever is hosting something illegal would never pay this sum
SDO Services: trust me
Nyx5000: ok ,who would paythis sum
SDO Services: mainly business people
Nyx5000: give examples of the type of people who pay for this service
Nyx5000: are these people, tupid?
Nyx5000: stupid*
Nyx5000: lol
SDO Services: not at all
Nyx5000: what could they possibly host that would cost them 5700 a month
SDO Services: a major video editing company
SDO Services: needs to store huge files
SDO Services: and needs tons of bandwidth
Nyx5000: but only 500GB
Nyx5000: that is not 'tons'
SDO Services: 500 GB of dedicated bandwidth
SDO Services: yes, that is a lot
SDO Services: you're confusing shared with dedicated
SDO Services: they're two different aspects
Nyx5000: ok than explain
SDO Services: plus, i've realized that most hosters with their cheap prices, may offer tons of bandwidth, but the speeds and performance would be poor
SDO Services: even though you're getting 10000 GB bandwidht
SDO Services: if they cap your speed to 11k
SDO Services: you won't be feeling so big
Nyx5000: and what is your max through-put
SDO Services: 100 Mb
SDO Services: that line is entirely yours
SDO Services: so if you have a fast enough connection, you could be traveling at full speed
SDO Services: people fail to understand that quality comes with price
SDO Services: there is no other way around it
SDO Services: ok, i'm off
SDO Services: i have to some work to get done
Nyx5000: later
SDO Services: i hope this conversation helped you
SDO Services signed off at 4:23:07 AM.

SoftWareRevue
02-24-2003, 07:07 AM
Originally posted by perroloco
. . . . . . . .And they choose to use PayPal for $5k transactions. . . . . . . That's actually a good plan. PayPal will not honor any disputes involving "services."
So, if someone gives them $5,000, they're not getting it back.

perroloco
02-24-2003, 07:14 AM
That's sorta what I was implying; PayPal is frequently used by high-risk businesses who would not otherwise qualify for a merchant account with Visa, MC, etc. The fact that they choose to use it as the sole form of payment tells me plenty.

SoftWareRevue
02-24-2003, 07:24 AM
Consumers don't know they can't get their money back; until they try.

It's sad; really.

perroloco
02-24-2003, 07:40 AM
They have a new agreement which, supposedly, more clearly defines the legal relationship between PayPal, the seller, and the buyer. I rarely use their services so I haven't yet read (nor agreed to) the new terms, but I'm sure it futher distances them from the transaction itself. I did see the usual "recompensation of legal fees" clause (up to $1000). So selling a $10 chotchkie on eBay could end up costing you a grand in legal fees should the buyer pay with PayPal and dispute the sale. Worst case, of course, but a possibility nevertheless.

I have already seen many eBayers post "no paypal credit cards accepted", meaning they only accept cash when transferred out of someone's checking account. Guess the credit card companies were raising hell about chargebacks and such.

Ugh. Cashless society my a$$.

sprintserve
02-24-2003, 08:53 AM
They give you a dedicated pipe, but you can only use up to 500GB. So what happen to the rest of the 32.5TB of transfers. I mean if they dedicate it to you, they can't share it with someone else. But since they can't share it with someone else, why would they limit you to any bandwidth limit? It should say full dedicated 100mbit pipe with up to 33TB. I rest my case.

(I do hope no one is stupid enough to be tricked.)

tandem
02-24-2003, 01:56 PM
The guy will never tell who actually hosts with him. Do you really expect him to say that he hosts child porn or illegal adult sites (assuming he does)? Note what he's saying:

SDO Services: a major video editing company
SDO Services: needs to store huge files
SDO Services: and needs tons of bandwidth

jobvdsande
02-24-2003, 03:05 PM
100Mbit dedicated line for that price is pretty nice though.... second....

I can remember a Boeing project, in which they where using remote engineering... I think that someone would need such a server for that. You need files of several GB's and you want them fast...

I think this guy is not messing around...

perroloco
02-24-2003, 03:16 PM
I've been doing professional video since 1998. I have not once ever thought to myself "gee, wouldn't it be swell if I could store all my video on a remote server somewhere."

DV takes 12 gig per hour of footage. D-1 is about 60 gig per hour. Forget about the missing 32TB pipe, what about the 30GB HD you get?

For $5750 I can buy the fastest 700GB SCSI RAID you've ever seen, or 4.5TB of external Firewire.

SolidJoe
02-24-2003, 04:06 PM
Is it my imagination or are one of their servers on Rackshack? Do a dns lookup on it, one of two ips it resolves to is EV1, and the other is some place in Canada. Interesting.

2Grumpy
02-24-2003, 04:08 PM
Can't load the site myself, guess the joke's over.

dimva
02-24-2003, 04:10 PM
Whatever price/service you have, there will always be at least ONE idiot that will pay it. :rolleyes:

SolidJoe
02-24-2003, 04:13 PM
Address lookup
canonical name storedataonline.com.
aliases
addresses 216.40.201.216
64.251.66.3

ljprevo
02-24-2003, 04:19 PM
I am not defending the company at all, but that price for a DEDICATED 100MB connection is not that bad, with a server?

Do you know what a T3 line cost, which is 45mb, a good $10,000k USD per month.

A dedicated line mind you.

SolidJoe
02-24-2003, 04:54 PM
A dedicated line on Rackshack though? Or some canadian line? It seems logical to me they would put their website on their own servers, which if they were true SHOULD be in New Jersey, where they are. 3 locations?! Doesn't seem to fit to me.

ljprevo
02-24-2003, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by SolidJoe
A dedicated line on Rackshack though? Or some canadian line? It seems logical to me they would put their website on their own servers, which if they were true SHOULD be in New Jersey, where they are. 3 locations?! Doesn't seem to fit to me.

I agree with this, what I don't agree with is where people think the price is whacked in regard to a dedicated 100mb line.

Yes, their deal does look fishy, a 100mb connection for $5500 bucks month, hmmm. When T3's (45mb) are close to $10,000 per month.

sHosts
02-24-2003, 07:10 PM
This should be posted as one of the BEST dedicated server deals on WHT ::rollseyes:: ;)

creid
02-24-2003, 07:11 PM
This is part of the reason I left WHT, Hosts ripping up hosts. You guy's should be concerned about running your own business and not judging other people's.
Christ instructs, "For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again." -Matthew 7:2


-Chris

tandem
02-24-2003, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by ljprevo

I agree with this, what I don't agree with is where people think the price is whacked in regard to a dedicated 100mb line.

Yes, their deal does look fishy, a 100mb connection for $5500 bucks month, hmmm. When T3's (45mb) are close to $10,000 per month.
If it's pure cogent that will cost them $3000 per month for a 100mb line. So it would still be profitable. And not every server will use up the 100mb every month!

Archbob
02-24-2003, 07:42 PM
But why restrict users to 500GB when you dedicate a 100mb line to them? It simply doesn't make sense.

kneadingu
02-24-2003, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by 3listen

I hope they are in Yen!

:D

2Grumpy
02-24-2003, 08:05 PM
Who cares how big the "dedicated line" is when you only get 500G of transfer? 500G is 500G, ok so you have a 100mbit line (probably to the switch haha could say the same for every one of my servers!) but you get 500G.

Oh jeeze come on people they're using a rackshack server, $5750 per month for 30G and 500G? Dedicated 100mbit? haha oh come on you're not telling me anyone takes it seriously? $5750 a month?

sHosts
02-24-2003, 08:09 PM
Not only that, how can you make any money off a $5750/mo. server?

If anyone had that much money to spend on ded server w/ 100mbit, they probably would just buy their own line:)

2Grumpy
02-24-2003, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by ljprevo
I agree with this, what I don't agree with is where people think the price is whacked in regard to a dedicated 100mb line.

Yes, their deal does look fishy, a 100mb connection for $5500 bucks month, hmmm. When T3's (45mb) are close to $10,000 per month.

[root@ensim4 newuser]# traceroute storedataonline.com
traceroute: Warning: storedataonline.com has multiple addresses; using 216.40.201.216
traceroute to storedataonline.com (216.40.201.216), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 207.44.162.1 (207.44.162.1) 0.365 ms 0.290 ms 0.394 ms
2 207.218.223.34 (207.218.223.34) 0.401 ms 0.286 ms 0.505 ms
3 wf4.dnsvr.com (216.40.201.216) 1.053 ms 0.901 ms 0.756 ms
[root@ensim4 newuser]# nslookup 216.40.201.216
Note: nslookup is deprecated and may be removed from future releases.
Consider using the `dig' or `host' programs instead. Run nslookup with
the `-sil[ent]' option to prevent this message from appearing.
Server: 207.44.162.11
Address: 207.44.162.11#53

Non-authoritative answer:
216.201.40.216.in-addr.arpa name = wf4.dnsvr.com.

Authoritative answers can be found from:
201.40.216.in-addr.arpa nameserver = ns1.ev1.net.
ns1.ev1.net internet address = 216.88.76.6


Dude it's a rackshack server they are on, still think it's worth $5750 a month?

And their other ip is at a place called "Bigpipe" never heard of them but the name is kinda cute.

Granted if they actually have people paying this more power to them, my hats off to them if so!

Fahd
02-24-2003, 09:10 PM
Marketing gimmick people. Put some very high fees for a so called large/profession/enterprise plan and the small (sometimes uneducated) guy that comes by is conned into thinking that they are a big player. Probably trying to build a brand the shotgun method. Dont fall for it! ;)

tandem
02-25-2003, 12:30 AM
He's already defined his market (see above):

SDO Services: a major video editing company
SDO Services: needs to store huge files
SDO Services: and needs tons of bandwidth

Just think what kind of business would have huge video files stored for delivery on the net?? ;)

Jim_UK
02-25-2003, 04:51 AM
To be fair...

If this host wants to set high prices, thinks they can get high prices or are actually getting high prices, isn't that fair enough and their own concern?

What concern is it of ours and what right does that give people to abuse the host and their customers via live chat programs?

IllusionSoft
02-25-2003, 07:51 AM
I don't think we have the right to judge what someone else is charging for their products/services. In the end regardless of the price (whether high or low) some clueless person will end up buying the product and theres hardly anything we can do about it. Just my 0.02$.

mswordman
03-02-2003, 01:02 AM
first of, I'm resurecting this thread since it is funny, and 2 I think it's BS, if they charge that much for the services, could they at least get a better website?

NFLinsider
03-02-2003, 06:24 AM
That is the biggest rip off I have ever seen in my life. What sap would pay for any of the services they offer..My god I still cant belive that

Aussie Bob
03-02-2003, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by mattonline
. . .When we first started this company, we were offering our users unlimted space and bandwidth for ridiculously cheap prices. That strategy however wasn't flawless, we soon began to experience massive growing pains and the quality of our service began to become less than optimal."
hehe. :emlaugh:

pattox
03-02-2003, 08:16 AM
hmmm, no money back eh? sounds interesting :D
I'll sell my house for $500, just send it to my paypal account :D

chuckt101
03-02-2003, 09:45 AM
hehe

We offer excellent support for our customers in need. We garantee a 24 hour response time with email and live 1 on 1 chat with one of our representatives during the hours of 4 P.M. EST - 10 PM on weedays.

hehe weedays...

chuckt101
03-02-2003, 09:46 AM
oh yea 4pm-10pm.. sounds like the time he gets out of school until his bed time :-D

Andrew
03-02-2003, 10:11 AM
Take notice folks! This is exactly the kind of CRAP that has brought down the quality of WHT. What the hell business is it of this guy's if some hosting company charges more money than he's used to? What right does he have to attempt to ridicule the man? WHAT PLANET DO THESE PEOPLE COME FROM?????

Obviously it's a planet where common sense and good manners don't exist, because this is just off the wall.

Originally posted by Nyx
My first post, but I thought this was a little bit too weird to pass up.

Nyx5000: You shoudl move the decimals for the prices on your plans over to the left a couple of digits, i think you made some massive typoes.
SDO Services: and you are?
Nyx5000: The typo police
SDO Services: i see, one of the major useless entities on earth
Nyx5000: the site, isn't serious about the prices, is it?
SDO Services: sure, the site is serious
SDO Services: it depends on how serious you are
Nyx5000: definetly not serious enough for those prices ;-)
SDO Services: not many people are
Nyx5000: so about how many clients do you server
SDO Services: our services aren't for everyone
Nyx5000: serve*
Nyx5000: they are for people who had a lobatamy (sp.)
SDO Services: heh, i have well over enough
SDO Services: to suite my needs
Nyx5000: if you found just one idiot to buy the last plan, you would be set for a while lol
SDO Services: i'm actually not making much of a profit off of that. That price is as low as it can get
SDO Services: all these people are getting dedicated bandwidth
Nyx5000: The "affordable plan" and "family plan" i could possibly even see
Nyx5000: but after that the prices are jsut inflated
Nyx5000: and thats an understatement
SDO Services: as i said, our services aren't for everyone
Nyx5000: ok
Nyx5000: am i missing something
SDO Services: dedicated bandwidth costs
SDO Services: we're not accepting any new customers anyway
SDO Services: we're all filled up
Nyx5000: oh ok.
Nyx5000: damn
Nyx5000: ;-)
SDO Services: may i ask how you found out about us?
Nyx5000: webhostingtalk.com of course
SDO Services: ok, thanks
Nyx5000: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=116298
SDO Services: hehe, that's funny
SDO Services: interesting how people talk
Nyx5000: yes well
Nyx5000: i dont understand how, with the many sites available that offer dirt cheap prices with decent connectivity, you seriously offer prices like that on this site.... i think you are actually joking about it
SDO Services: it's really no joke. If you do some research on dedicated bandwidth, you'll soon understand. All those "dirt cheap" hosters out there either off your really cheap servers and very bad shared bandwidth
SDO Services: you really get what you pay for
SDO Services: offer*
SDO Services: but don't worry, i predict withint he next 2-3 years, those prcies will be going down by over 75 percent
SDO Services: i have a new plan that can save millions
SDO Services: good for both you and I
Nyx5000: is this an evil plan
Nyx5000: what is your plan
SDO Services: well, it will definitely be the talk
SDO Services: you'll hear about it
Nyx5000: erm ok
Nyx5000: how about i hear about this plan now
Nyx5000: dammit
SDO Services: heh
Nyx5000: why chose you? huh?!?!
Nyx5000: tdo you have a schpiel about that
SDO Services: simple, if you need optimal performance
SDO Services: all the time
SDO Services: then you'd better stick with us
SDO Services: we don't joke around when it comes to performance
Nyx5000: oh, ok
Nyx5000: so are people allowed to host anything, than
SDO Services: anything legal
SDO Services: as goes with all hosts
Nyx5000: well, the only reason i could see anyone paying that kind of money monthly, is to host something illegal lol
SDO Services: whoever is hosting something illegal would never pay this sum
SDO Services: trust me
Nyx5000: ok ,who would paythis sum
SDO Services: mainly business people
Nyx5000: give examples of the type of people who pay for this service
Nyx5000: are these people, tupid?
Nyx5000: stupid*
Nyx5000: lol
SDO Services: not at all
Nyx5000: what could they possibly host that would cost them 5700 a month
SDO Services: a major video editing company
SDO Services: needs to store huge files
SDO Services: and needs tons of bandwidth
Nyx5000: but only 500GB
Nyx5000: that is not 'tons'
SDO Services: 500 GB of dedicated bandwidth
SDO Services: yes, that is a lot
SDO Services: you're confusing shared with dedicated
SDO Services: they're two different aspects
Nyx5000: ok than explain
SDO Services: plus, i've realized that most hosters with their cheap prices, may offer tons of bandwidth, but the speeds and performance would be poor
SDO Services: even though you're getting 10000 GB bandwidht
SDO Services: if they cap your speed to 11k
SDO Services: you won't be feeling so big
Nyx5000: and what is your max through-put
SDO Services: 100 Mb
SDO Services: that line is entirely yours
SDO Services: so if you have a fast enough connection, you could be traveling at full speed
SDO Services: people fail to understand that quality comes with price
SDO Services: there is no other way around it
SDO Services: ok, i'm off
SDO Services: i have to some work to get done
Nyx5000: later
SDO Services: i hope this conversation helped you
SDO Services signed off at 4:23:07 AM.

mswordman
03-02-2003, 10:38 PM
I would think of it as a good deal if I get my other 37 Terrabytes, but it's only 500 GB, I mean GOOD LORD!!!, and a case like that at the high-end would probably have 2 TB of harddrive space, AT LEAST!!!

Owen
03-02-2003, 11:43 PM
I used to do some work for a company that paid $150 a month to Pacific Bell for 50 megs of hard disk space and 8 gigs transfer. In fact, I think an awful lot of companies will just go to the first name they can think of when it comes to getting Internet service. After all, $150 a month doesn't SOUND that bad for a website.

Owen

Owen
03-02-2003, 11:45 PM
In fact, the guys at SBC are stull up to their old tricks: http://webhosting.com/pages/dedicated/biz.shtml

People are way too trusting of the phone company.

Owen

anmhosting
03-03-2003, 12:07 AM
The trick is, busnesses pay that because they think they get better service/support from a big name telco.

The company I worked for before going full time in the webhosting biz was paying 175.00 a month for 50 MB of space, no cgi/php/mysql - nothing, 50 MB of space. On top of that they had to run their email server in house.

It took some talking to get them to host with me because I am not a "NAME". They wanted a big name not joe-blow.net hosting co. Eventually I did, based on ten years working there. I saved them a bit and they are really happy about it. And they now have got better uptime, and no in house email server.

SBC, a name you can trust, yeah right.

mswordman
03-03-2003, 12:20 AM
SBC, rings a bell, but I can't remember it

latinpower
03-04-2003, 01:29 AM
??????

brianlim
03-04-2003, 06:23 AM
***sorry wrong post***

pattox
03-05-2003, 01:18 AM
Some of you people are seriously goofy, What right do you have to critisise other peoples business? If he was spamming or offering unlim bandwidth then i'd be up for a bit of fun here and there but this has gone too far.

DarktidesNET
03-05-2003, 02:13 AM
Well, I'm not agree that his pricing is good or anything, but I think it's strange that you all seem to think his pricing is absurdly high. It's not, not for big business.

A local client I'm working on taking over from my brother in law runs a Catholic church forum (2 gigs of space, 150 Gigs of transfer) and they are paying $950 a month to have it hosted on a dedicated 650mhz / 256mb ram.

That's high in my eyes, but only to the average "I want **** cheap market", to the biz world, $950 a month is nothing (ecspecially with government funding such as this church). While around here no one would definitly pay for that, when you can get 500 GB of transfer for $60 a month from joe blow by posting a request, to think local/online business would not pay $1-15k a month to have sites online is just ludicrious ....

Another one of my friends owns a local printing company (logos, newspaper, etc). I offered to get his company online since they are not. I offered to design/maintain/host his site for $50 a month and he thought I was joking. He thought it would cost a few hundred a month to have a site sit online that just had pictures of his store and his phone number/address on it.

As I said, for normal users and non-business hosting is thought of as dirt cheap, to any business that has stores, employees, etc, hosting is thought of as expensive, atleast from my experiences, and I've talked to about 4 local churches/6 local stores about getting them online within the last 2 months or taking them over from the company my brother in law works for who is getting out of hosting but has over 450 clients.

About 5-10 local businesses or entities (Churches, whatever) would bring in more money than 50-100 average webmasters would.

Different hosts go for different markets. I wouldn't recommend sticking to the low budget hosting that's around today (most people on this forum), but many people lack the skill/desire to submit proposals to local companies, which is where the money is.

$5000+ is no doubt a rip off. My only point to this reply was that if you take the time (put on your tie, get out your biz card and write up some documents) and submit well laid out proposals and/or meet and have conferences with local entities you will no doubt find bigger money than anywhere else.