I got a letter from them today wanting me to switch over to them for web hosting. Now why cant they see they had my web hosting company's name on it? Do they not care?

I sent them a nasty email and I wait for the reply... I bet I dont get one! :angry:

They don't screen there lists, Hell I get letters, postcards, and phone calls from interland/hostpro every month or so.

I should have flyers made up and send them some :)

You should get the number to ken the CEO of interland and cold call him asking him to switch over to you.

Interland is one of those scumbag companies that steal information from the whois and then solicitate with it. I would never use them for that reason.

Actually they buy it from netsol, for 10,000 a a month.

Originally posted by jayglate
You should get the number to ken the CEO of interland and cold call him asking him to switch over to you.

"Hi Ken?"

Ken: "Yes?"

"I thought I'd just call to let you know that if you sign up for 3 months of hosting, we'll register your domain name free! How does that sound?"

Ken: "Ummm, we are a host..."

"You are? I'm terribly sorry! We must get our lists of prospective customers from the same place that the moronic company Interland does HA-HA-HA. Hello? Hello?"

HAHAHAHA Free hosting for life to anyone who does this and records it to a mp3 :D

I'lll get his phone # and post it here. I have a meeting with him at the whexpo and I am meeting with chris faulkner from *****, I;ll get his number to..

Originally posted by jayglate
Actually they buy it from netsol, for 10,000 a a month.

I suspect register.com also sells the email addresses that their customers use. I have started to get spam on the two email addresses that I used when I registered domains with register.com.

Now I know to use a "special" email address when I register domains.

Originally posted by Mike the newbie


I suspect register.com also sells the email addresses that their customers use. I have started to get spam on the two email addresses that I used when I registered domains with register.com.

Now I know to use a "special" email address when I register domains.

What I have is a catch-all email box. So when I sign up with company ABC, I just use the email address ABC@mydomain.com. Then if I find that I am receiving "spam" email on that address, I simply block ABC@mydomain.com from receiving any further email.

Works like a charm! :)

Yeah but what if they send you an email you need? Like NetSol's forms...

Before I switched most of my domains to OpenSRS, i'd recieve a stack of letters from Interland about every other month or so, one for each domain name. :rolleyes:

Interland's spam run to our PO box has trickled down to next to nothing. That's what happens when you return to sender with "SPAMMER" written on the postcard in huge red letters and a "REMOVE" under that. Now, if I could get ValueWeb to clue in on the fact that we don't need their help to "get our business online", that would be a bonus...

Now i see where Interland got my mailing address and everything... What's funny is that i switched to them to try it out and they're still spamming me...

Oh, very nice.

I got two letters from Interland today... and one from Qwest. How do I get on these darned mailing lists? ;)

Regards,
Matt

You guys are lucky. I've made the mistake of registering domains with different email addresses and names. When Interland, et al. send out their spam I end up getting about 5-10 letters/cards from each one.

We've since moved most of our domains over to OpenSRS, but we have the pleasure of remaining on the mailing lists.

Poor forests.

Originally posted by jayglate
I'lll get his phone # and post it here. I have a meeting with him at the whexpo and I am meeting with chris faulkner from *****, I;ll get his number to..

See if you can get their email addresses, too. We could sign them up for every mailing list, porn pic o the day list, spam list, as well as share their addresses with those well-meaning friends we all have who send us endless chain letters, tired old jokes (If I get that bloody cookie recipe one more time I'll...), and have no idea that most virus warnings are hoaxes.

Thosee mails telling about viruses that send lots of mails from your machine.. I get thousands about the virus.. i'd much prefer to get the virus once and get the whole mail spam over and done with! ;)

As for Interland.. didn't I mention that I'm getting their customers? See me shouting about it.. look I saved another forest from being cut down! ;)

Don't forget about good old Bart and the rest at Interland:

bart@interland.net
tiffany@interland.net
boardofdirectors@interland.net

And, of course:

abuse@interland.net
legal@interland.net
HOSTMASTER@interland.net
webmaster@interland.net
tos@interland.net
policy@interland.net
support@interland.net
billing@interland.net


Spam bots -> say YUM! Send my regards, I'm sure they'll have nightmares.

Originally posted by Mike the newbie


I suspect register.com also sells the email addresses that their customers use. I have started to get spam on the two email addresses that I used when I registered domains with register.com.

Now I know to use a "special" email address when I register domains.

From the ICANN Registrar Accreditation Agreement (http://www.icann.org/registrars/ra-agreement-17may01.htm):
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3.3.6 In addition, Registrar shall provide third-party bulk access to the data subject to public access under Subsection 3.3.1 under the following terms and conditions:

3.3.6.1 Registrar shall make a complete electronic copy of the data available at least one time per week for download by third parties who have entered into a bulk access agreement with Registrar.

3.3.6.2 Registrar may charge an annual fee, not to exceed US$10,000, for such bulk access to the data.
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We have no choice.

i don't see anywhere in those pursuants and whereases that the Registrar is forced to enter into bulk access agreements with third parties (aka spammers).

Only that they have to follow certain terms and conditions if they do: they can charge no more than 10,000 bucks a year to provide a full electronic copy of the public information in the whois records at least once a week.

It says it right here:
3.3.6 In addition, Registrar shall provide third-party bulk access....

Anyone else find themselves a bit upset about that? I suppose it should be expected, but what a bunch of greedy pricks. I mean you have to deal with them through one party or another to get a domain name but then to sell your personal information.. I know i'm a strong supporter when it comes to internet privacy and this type of stuff just flat out bothers me.

Originally posted by dotcomguy
It says it right here:
3.3.6 In addition, Registrar shall provide third-party bulk access....

They meant anyone can go through their database and use the information for bulk access. It doesn't mean they have to give the database information to anyone. It just means they have to allow third parties to query the database.

Originally posted by vizi


They meant anyone can go through their database and use the information for bulk access. It doesn't mean they have to give the database information to anyone. It just means they have to allow third parties to query the database.

It goes farther than that. Besides, what's the difference? Access is access.

Originally posted by dotcomguy


From the ICANN Registrar Accreditation Agreement (http://www.icann.org/registrars/ra-agreement-17may01.htm):
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3.3.6 In addition, Registrar shall provide third-party bulk access to the data subject to public access under Subsection 3.3.1 under the following terms and conditions:

3.3.6.1 Registrar shall make a complete electronic copy of the data available at least one time per week for download by third parties who have entered into a bulk access agreement with Registrar.

3.3.6.2 Registrar may charge an annual fee, not to exceed US$10,000, for such bulk access to the data.
*****************

We have no choice.

I don't get this, and don't see where it says they have to allow database queries, etc. No choice? Hmmm.

Ryan, so this states that registrars are being forced to enter into agreements, against their will, and allow access to the data (and since they *must* do it, the maximum they can charge according to this forced agreement is $10,000/yr.)???

Note: I'm asking, but I find it hard to believe this is how it works.

It says we MUST (uses the word "shall") provide access, and we CAN charge up to $10,000 for the privilege.

We could argue the legal jargon for days.........

Personally, I don't really care. There are bigger things in life than the proliferation of spam/junk mail. If a person's life is so perfect that their biggest complaint is unsolicited email, then I am truly jealous. ;)

they got me again today-twice. They must have known I was talking about them.

Did you all know they are the #1 hosting provider? Their mail says so, therefore it must be true.

FYI

http://www.icann.org/registrars/register.com-verio/amicus-22sep00.htm

This is still in play I believe.

Sorry, one more thing.

The important part is this

"You agree that you will use this Data only for lawful purposes but that, under no circumstances will you use this Data to: (1) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of unsolicited, commercial e-mail (spam) to entities other than your own existing customers; or (2) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that apply to any .com, .net, or .org registrar (or their systems) for large numbers of domain names, except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or modify existing registrations. "

Personally, I don't really care. There are bigger things in life than the proliferation of spam/junk mail. If a person's life is so perfect that their biggest complaint is unsolicited email, then I am truly jealous

In begining I was never bothered by any spam/junk mail and simply delete it and my beleif was same as yours. But after sometime I realised that people like me are encouraging these types of activities and started taking action against each spam. If I found a message that it is only one time or will never receive, I just ignore it. But the message "you need to call this number to get out of the list" bolis my blood. Make an international call to get rid our mailing list in which you never subscribed. Trust me spamming is an issue on net...

Originally posted by jayglate
Actually they buy it from netsol, for 10,000 a a month.


When you meet with Chris F. tell him that his company sucks and that his reseller program is and always has been a disaster. Tell him to get his accounting department together too.... thanks! hahahaha

i get emails weekly saying that my web site is to be moved from either unix to nt or vice versa and to call interland to follow up.

oddly enough, all my sites are on my own servers at Communitech.net......hahahhhah

at first i about freaked, then I called CT and they explained what interland was doing


what a bunch of crap, if your reputation can't get you any clients, don' t resort to 'spam'

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