Aloha,
OK more questions ;)
I am torn between a RaQ adn a Dell app server the app server seems a whole lot stronger and still has a web interface for adding virtual hosts
I guess I am curious for those with a dell app has any body installed and used ChiliSoft ?
what about a pop email program what are people using ?

any thing else that can help me ??
and again a big Mahalos to all those that have helped me out and answered some other questions relating to my scatter brain thougths ;)

I was going to go with the PowerApp because of the simplicity of it. Ready to go...except you still have to add your own email and stick in MySQL or whatever other database you want to use.
Not so simple anymore, at least for me. I went with the Dell PowerEdge and am going to stick Plesk on it (machine is on order now). It may not be the best out there, but it beats what Dell is giving you with the PowerApp.

Aloha
yeah that seems to be the idea with the unix ones
I am also thinking of a win2k one to do asp ??
for the unix one might be a good idea then to go with a 3rd party panel
ckizer and me were having a convo on that here :
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11389

yeah what kind of email ya going to use ???
this is a curious thing to me

almost wondering about running a small RaQ for a mail server and MySQL server together ????
along with a dell but for the money I would still grab a dell and host it
unless the $99 deal of bandwith adn RaQ can handle that OK
any thoughts on that route ?

I really don't like those RAQs( I am basing this off of the Suns specifications for the RAQ 4). I don't think that a serious hosting server should be running anthing but SCSI.. Thats just me. Plus the whole "Intel Compatible Processor" thing. For all I know it could be a Cyrix MIII.
The only really nice thing about the RAQ is that it comes with Chilisoft's ASP software. Of course thats only if you plan on offering ASP.. Personally I don't see why anyone wants ASP. It seems to me that making such a crappy language as VBscript into a server parsed language is pretty lame at best. Oh well. enough of my rant. :)
Anyway, we have a Dell PowerApp server. Dual PIII, GIG o'RAM. A really nice machine. Runs linux, and is pretty darn fast. I won't lie to you though.. It doesn't come with really anything to set it up. And I think thats good. Hosting shouldn't be point-and-click thing or a snazzy web interface thing. (Oops there I go again..) <br>
Just my $0.02

Aloha,yeah agree about the scsi thing
I am also a big fan of dual
raid 1 at least just in case
but this is me
yeah
the no real pIII chips is kinda rotten ;(

I still like some point and click though anything to make life faster and easier but not at the cost of massive bad stuff happening
I can have some give and take
but want to be able to slowly peel back and learn that is why I was hoping it would be good enough to start with as I learn (the dell interface)
so back to square one again I guess for a while not really sure what I am going to do but that is why I am asking everybody
what ver of linux ya running ?
what about BSD in your thoughts on that

what ver of linux ya running ?
Redhat 6.2 (Kernel 2.4.4)with some massive fixes,patches etc.. Its the only way to get certain things working. I think eventually we will be using Debian GNU/Linux.

what about BSD in your thoughts on that
Big thumbs up.. BSD rocks.. I prefer FreeBSD for a desktop situation but OpenBSD has probably got to be the best as far as security is concerned. WARNING: Not for the faint of heart. Installing OpenBSD is much like pulling teeth. Out of a mad tiger. Who knows how to eat humans in a way that they remain alive for the longest possible time. :)
But yeah, it takes some getting used to.. I would suggest that you set down and get VERY comfortable with it before you try implementing it in a hosting environment. (If you are seriously considering OpenBSD)

hehehhehesounds like ya have been watching Gladiatior

yeah
I have a friend who is a super huge unix/linux admin adn stuff is on the php something or rather and is pretty well know for security

so can alwasy pick his brain on some stuff

he still likes 6.2 over 7 cause there are better know patchs for holes etc....

reason I ask about bsd is efreeservers has some bsd thing on there ???
not sure about it
yeah I know it is a lot like pulling teeth chances are I would have dentures if I tried
hehehehehe

I am pretty comfy changing conf files and all with linux/apache and doing some hand config but I am not really quick at it
want to save my time for design/consulting where I make mroe $$
just want to start holding my own destiny more
and it is fun to learn
plus I am at that point of I will be better $$$ to host my own clients now than go virtual and be able to install certain things etc.. I want

ahhhh freedom its a good thing

and again that is why I want to learn asp cause of ultradev and the way it hooks up with it
I know it can suck but so can other things
no time to learn PHP
if I have really big projects I hire programmers to do it for me
but most small stuff I can do

what ya think about CF
used that on a big project before with a total team of 4 developers a 1.5 year project

seems kinda cool adn has some easy stuff to do
plus ya can run it on linux boxes
we used redhat for the project

thoughts ?? (sorry my typing sucks ;)

Originally posted by cirrusrex
Big thumbs up.. BSD rocks.. I prefer FreeBSD for a desktop situation but OpenBSD has probably got to be the best as far as security is concerned. WARNING: Not for the faint of heart. Installing OpenBSD is much like pulling teeth. Out of a mad tiger. Who knows how to eat humans in a way that they remain alive for the longest possible time. :)
But yeah, it takes some getting used to.. I would suggest that you set down and get VERY comfortable with it before you try implementing it in a hosting environment. (If you are seriously considering OpenBSD)

what do you think of this ??
http://freebsd.efreeservers.com/order.htm

has plesk for a admin
any thoughts ??

Originally posted by mojotim
I was going to go with the PowerApp because of the simplicity of it. Ready to go...except you still have to add your own email and stick in MySQL or whatever other database you want to use.
Not so simple anymore, at least for me. I went with the Dell PowerEdge and am going to stick Plesk on it (machine is on order now). It may not be the best out there, but it beats what Dell is giving you with the PowerApp.

let us know when ya get it and anythoughts
look forward to hearing about it :)

The Sun Cobalt's have an AMD processor so no Cyrix chips... Not that it's really relevant to this thread but people don't give the Cobalts nearly enough credit. (Assuming you don't look at the price tag)