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lord2001
05-20-2001, 11:20 AM
Hello Everyone!,
I am Lord Brar , From Jaipur. I Wa actually in a very desparate need Of a Cheap Power Webhost. I need the following features:

1> Perl Support ver 5+
2> Os Type : Unix / Linux Only ( NT / Win2k host Pl Do Not Respond )
3> Min 250 Mb Of Space
4> Min 15 GB Bandwidth
5> Min 15 GB Data Transfer
6> Unlimited Mail Boxes
7> Unlimited EMail Forwading
8> Unlimited Autoresponder
9> Unlimited Subdomains
10> Access To Raw Server Logs

Under No Circumstances I can pay More Than 7$ / Month ( Less Ones Would Be Preferred) . Also I need the host to accept International Demand Drafts ( as i cannot pay by Credit Card) .

You may get in contact with me personally. I may be able to compromise on a few features above. Setup Fees must not be more than 10 $ under any Circumstances ( No Setup Fees Would Be Preferred) I promise that If you give me an account cheap now and whenever My Business required a dedicated server I will Take Dedicated Servers From That host only ( If They Provide One and I am sure that my business will get very successfull very soon). My Email Addresses are : thecyberworld@hclinfinet.com, thecwg@hclinfinet.com, cybergroup@id.eth.net ,call@isownerof.net ,thecyberworld@hotpop.com . My ICQ ID is : #72632470 . My Phone Number is : 91-141-357718 .

Waiting for a reply From Anyone Who Is Cheap and Perfect .

Lord Brar


Note : All Those Related to TacidBlue Please Stay away.

mojotim
05-20-2001, 11:52 AM
After you find this host, can you give me the winning lottery numbers?

Ericd
05-20-2001, 12:25 PM
1> Perl Support ver 5+
2> Os Type : Unix / Linux Only ( NT / Win2k host Pl Do Not Respond )
3> Min 250 Mb Of Space
4> Min 15 GB Bandwidth
5> Min 15 GB Data Transfer
6> Unlimited Mail Boxes
7> Unlimited EMail Forwading
8> Unlimited Autoresponder
9> Unlimited Subdomains
10> Access To Raw Server Logs

You'll have to go, at least, over $15 for that.

But check out this thread (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=3053).

Also, don't worry, i don't think anyone will recommend you Tacid here :D

lord2001
05-20-2001, 12:33 PM
I don't know how they are but cnwebhost.com is a good one.


Ok All Lets make the space 100 mb. But Please Help Me.

________My Old Post _____________-
Hello Everyone!,
I am Lord Brar , From Jaipur. I Wa actually in a very desparate need Of a Cheap Power Webhost. I need the following features:

1> Perl Support ver 5+
2> Os Type : Unix / Linux Only ( NT / Win2k host Pl Do Not Respond )
3> Min 250 Mb Of Space
4> Min 15 GB Bandwidth
5> Min 15 GB Data Transfer
6> Unlimited Mail Boxes
7> Unlimited EMail Forwading
8> Unlimited Autoresponder
9> Unlimited Subdomains
10> Access To Raw Server Logs

Under No Circumstances I can pay More Than 7$ / Month ( Less Ones Would Be Preferred) . Also I need the host to accept International Demand Drafts ( as i cannot pay by Credit Card) .

You may get in contact with me personally. I may be able to compromise on a few features above. Setup Fees must not be more than 10 $ under any Circumstances ( No Setup Fees Would Be Preferred) I promise that If you give me an account cheap now and whenever My Business required a dedicated server I will Take Dedicated Servers From That host only ( If They Provide One and I am sure that my business will get very successfull very soon). My Email Addresses are : thecyberworld@hclinfinet.com, thecwg@hclinfinet.com, cybergroup@id.eth.net ,call@isownerof.net ,thecyberworld@hotpop.com . My ICQ ID is : #72632470 . My Phone Number is : 91-141-357718 .

Waiting for a reply From Anyone Who Is Cheap and Perfect .

Lord Brar


Note : All Those Related to TacidBlue Please Stay away.

Ericd
05-20-2001, 12:43 PM
Well, the problem is more with the bandwidth. 15GB is a lot for only $7 per month. Also, I never used (of heard of) cnWebhost, so i can't help you, sorry.

You might also want to post an offer in the advertising forum, you will see what others webhosts can offer you.

Good Luck!

Cheers,

lord2001
05-20-2001, 01:01 PM
Ok So Lets Go Down, Can You comen some Compromise on me for costs
______New Config ________--

1> Perl Support ver 5+
2> Os Type : Unix / Linux Only ( NT / Win2k host Pl Do Not Respond )
3> Min 100 Mb Of Space
4> Min 5 GB Bandwidth
5> Min 5 GB Data Transfer
6> Unlimited Mail Boxes
7> Unlimited EMail Forwading
8> Unlimited Autoresponder
9> Unlimited Subdomains
10> Access To Raw Server Logs

I can pay around 2$/ gb of extra transfer.

Can You plese email me , I wanna just get in contact with you for some compromise. My Email Addresses are : thecyberworld@hclinfinet.com, thecwg@hclinfinet.com, cybergroup@id.eth.net ,call@isownerof.net ,thecyberworld@hotpop.com . My ICQ ID is : #72632470 . My Phone Number is : 91-141-357718 .
:bawling:

TheComputerGuy
05-20-2001, 01:51 PM
you may want to lower your standards and raise your price, I just dont know of anyone that low

Duster
05-20-2001, 02:32 PM
You may come close with some hosts like Tera Byte that have generous transfer allowances, although I think youll need to adjust your requirements. I think you're asking for too much for too little.

The space and transfer are the biggest limitations in your original request, possibly even the raw server logs.

(SH)Saeed
05-20-2001, 02:40 PM
lord2001,

take a look at: http://www.tera-byte.com/hosting.html
Their plan 4 offers 99MB space and 20GB transfer for $9.25/month. They are a very good webhost too. Very reputable.

bert
05-21-2001, 10:13 AM
A good, reputable and responsible host would not charge any less than around $15.00 - $20.00 for those specs.

If you get it for less just be careful! ;)

Synergy
05-21-2001, 01:38 PM
Most hosts buy their bandwidth for about $2 per GB average. If you want 15GB.... actual charge would be around $30 dollars a month for no profit. Host that offer 10 GB of bandwidth for $10 a month are already taking risks........ What if all their users use 10 GB a month lol :stickout

bert
05-21-2001, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by Synergy
Most hosts buy their bandwidth for about $2 per GB average. If you want 15GB.... actual charge would be around $30 dollars a month for no profit. Host that offer 10 GB of bandwidth for $10 a month are already taking risks........ What if all their users use 10 GB a month lol :stickout

Synergy is right. Mosts hosts "oversell" the bandwidth because they know that not everyone will use it all the way to the max, but if you tell the host up front that you will be using 15 GB, you will never get anything for less than $20.00 to $30.00, maybe more!

Get-Hosted.com
05-21-2001, 04:46 PM
I don't agree. I think some hosts would ;)

bert
05-21-2001, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by Get-Hosted.com
I don't agree. I think some hosts would ;)

Probably, but look at this this way, if you own a NOC or if you are renting a rack or half rack, you are still having to pay for bandwidth, support personnel, etc. If you give it away knowingly for less than $20.00 you are just missing profit! ;)

lord2001
05-22-2001, 03:24 AM
I found a host who Compromised with me.

Thanks a lot for all the support you guys gave me.

Love

Lord :blush:

XTStrike
05-22-2001, 04:08 AM
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I found a host who Compromised with me
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you found one? OMG

what did they compromise on? EVERYTHING??

lord2001
05-22-2001, 04:20 AM
It is impossibe for me to name that host. Under no circumstances i can Disclose Him,

XTStrike
05-22-2001, 06:26 AM
sorry to insult but:

lord2001 = IDIOT :D

bert
05-22-2001, 08:06 AM
Come on' Xtstrike, leave lord alone, he must have his reasons ;)

lord2001
05-22-2001, 08:15 AM
Its a hard fact but true , that the Place Where i live ( India) , Here your 1$ costs 47 bucks. I Just want you to understand that whatever you have to pay I have to pay 47x of that. So this is the reason why i can't shell a lot.

Love

XTStrike
05-22-2001, 08:48 AM
LOL, ok fair enough, I maybe over-reacted :)

Im in the UK and $1 isnt really that much for me, in fact with $7 I can only just buy a packet of soup!

Thay may have been part of the reason why I reacted the way i did.

big_smooth
05-22-2001, 10:06 AM
In Toronto where I live, for 7 bucks, you can about 10 packets of soup!

Hmmm, Hmmm, GOOD...

1 US Dollar is Worth 47 Indian Rupee(Their Currency)

But, you have to also consider the fact that to use public transit it's like 20 Rupees one way. In Canada it's $1.75. Just because 1 US Dollar is worth 47 Indian RUpee, doesn't nesseccarily mean you'll pay 47 times as much money for the same services.

It's only the currency that is worth 1/47th of a US dollar. The items and services are priced accordingly to the rupee, not the dollar in India..

I hope you guys understood what I just wrote, cause I don't think I do.

XTStrike
05-22-2001, 10:45 AM
Yeah i understand fully, although based upon foreign markets you may not get much for your currency in other countries, it all depends on the exchange rates country to country, if you want to test exchange rates for currencies then you can goto

www.xe.com/ucc

an example of the ridiculous state of currencies is seen when you convert :

One American Dollar ($1) into Italian Lira (2,231)

although this doesnt make the italian lira worthless, it simply means employees get paid much more italian lira!

Im no genius when it comes to currencies but thats my understanding

XTStrike
05-22-2001, 10:46 AM
AND to add to this

big_smooth : im not talking about cheap soup, im talking about 5 Star luxury soup

:D :D

lord2001
05-23-2001, 01:27 AM
Right , In India We Get Things In Indian Equivllent But of VERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRy Low Quality. If you think 2 go to India For Hosting , Don't Even Think Of That.

You ' ll Repent.

Love

Lord

Colin
05-23-2001, 01:35 AM
From what I've seen in the Tacid forum, Mr lord is now hosting with Shang.

I hope you know what you're getting yourself into :rolleyes:

tcmonica
05-23-2001, 02:01 AM
:eek: LOL

don't we all wish a web host actually was around offering those features for under $7.

if they did, most likely they would go out of business pretty soon or the server and service would be crappy as heck.

the only companys that come to mind is

netcoz.com
hostrocket.com
catalog.com

but their prices are all above $7....because they actually are professionals.

ever heard the saying "you get what you pay for"?.....i think it applies to this post.



;)

m6.net
05-23-2001, 02:13 AM
Originally posted by xtstrike


One American Dollar ($1) into Italian Lira (2,231)

although this doesnt make the italian lira worthless, it simply means employees get paid much more italian lira!

US $1 = Rph 8000+ (Indonesian Rupiah)

If you will got a market to buy a normal brand shirt it may cost you Rph 50,000 (fifty thousand)... salaries for normal post in Indonesia are given in Juta (Million)

FYI: Juta in India means Shoe.

m6.net
05-23-2001, 02:36 AM
Originally posted by lord2001
Right , In India We Get Things In Indian Equivllent But of VERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRy Low Quality. If you think 2 go to India For Hosting , Don't Even Think Of That.
You ' ll Repent.


No it is not necessary... If you are paying $7 per month to US hosting company you may repant too... there are many hosting companies in US as well those sucks and they are very good at it, therefore be aware :)

If you think 2 go to India For Hosting , Don't Even Think Of That.


It's not only India... there are several other countries with same situation.

Bandwidths cost is too high in all the countries except for US and that's only the reason why you can find most of the US based hosting companies offerring affordable prices.

Ask an Aussie to go for australian based hosting company... mostly will say no.

Honkong is tired off their domain regulation and soon going to open to foreign ISPs. They are charging HK $200 to register a domain name for one year, also charging HK $200 to transfer it to another server. One company can't have more than 1 hk domain name

Ask Brazilians why they are looking for web hosting company based in USA.

Thai has recently open their law for foreign ISPs and they all ran towards US based hosting companies.

We have a customer from Canada... his comment was "tired of Canadian web hosting company and would like to try US one, no too far I guess"

skysenshi
05-23-2001, 07:06 AM
Originally posted by Colin
From what I've seen in the Tacid forum, Mr lord is now hosting with Shang.

I hope you know what you're getting yourself into :rolleyes:

uh-oh, my lord, you should've read this controversial post first before you signed up:

http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10134

:eek:

lord2001
05-23-2001, 12:00 PM
Ya! I had been redirected to that thread by get-hosted.com . I have got three domains which own. One Is with tacid .

For the reply to Indian Hosts. I Have bben Cheated By Indian Hosts Several Times .... But So Far The Experience in the Us Has Been Pleasesnt.

Love...

Waiting For Your Replies On the Topic.

Lord

freakysid
05-23-2001, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by xtstrike
AND to add to this

big_smooth : im not talking about cheap soup, im talking about 5 Star luxury soup

:D :D

You Engish types! Five star luxury soup doesn't come out of a packet - you make it from fresh ingredients. Next you will be telling us that Cornish Pasties are gormet food :D

Anyway, I think lord2001 is looking for a host with a bit more spice ;)

Err, I'll shut-up now :blush:

talash
05-23-2001, 04:00 PM
Lord :)

I have few comments to make.

First of all, there are many good hosting companies up here in India. The problem has been that when they ask for a decent sum of money for their service, people dont like aying them. They might like to pay the same amount or even more sometime to an US based hosting company.

Surely, there can be several bad hosting companies as well (some intentionally and some non-intentionally, due to circumstances). This is majorly due to the immaturity of the entire industry up here. It will take time. You cannot expect everyone up here to learn in a day.

Apart from this the currency difference does not makes any difference. The major bandwidth providers resides in USA and the entire market is governed by them. So the game has to to get translated into dollars somewhere.

Above all, the features you mentioned in $7 is IMPOSSIBLE for any decent hosting company to provide. Just be careful. It does not even gets to the cost price of the company.

Lots of company up here throw away hosting very cheap - wanna know the reason - because most customers dont even use the facilities provided. I am filling in some accounts in a current server and even after hosting over 100+ sites up there, 90% of the time it shows load level < 0.05 !

Anyways, good night for now folks :)

Abhishek

m6.net
05-23-2001, 07:50 PM
First of all, there are many good hosting companies up here in India

Exactly... some people don't want to do their homework and keep blaming... God help them :)

fruitsalad
05-23-2001, 08:53 PM
not to insult u personally lord but i just have to comment.

A person that intends to build a business from only a $7/month investment is just totally wrong

skysenshi
05-23-2001, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by talash
Lord :)
First of all, there are many good hosting companies up here in India. The problem has been that when they ask for a decent sum of money for their service, people dont like aying them. They might like to pay the same amount or even more sometime to an US based hosting company.



Same problem I have in my country. I wanted to penetrate the local market and what happened? People just do not pay my bank!

So I hooked up with instabill and demand that they pay via credit card :D At least instabill will bill them every month and will not have payment delays.

Ne ways, it's really irritating that you try to do good business and be as honest and helpful as you can get, even go to the extent of helping them with stuff that aren't already your turf (some are problems with NSI or a former host that had their domain hostaged), and then they don't pay you.

*sigh* such is life.

lord2001
05-24-2001, 01:28 AM
Ok, Tell Me that which Indian Host would You Like?

talash
05-24-2001, 01:46 AM
Dear lord,

I dont wanna argue on this. You will definitely find a good Indian host if you :

- look around a bit
- expect for what you pay (hey, this is a major problem)

You have to beware of many unstable middlemen, who are noway resellers but makes a lot of money in between and vanishes like ether.

Some names that i can recollect are :

indialinks, directi, pugmarks in north india. We also have quite a large chunk of satisfied customers in east india (around 300+). i dont know about the current level of support, but since the guys from indialinks and directi have been known to me personally, i am sure that their tech knowledge is good.

you have to do away from doing business from CORE businessmen.

Regards
Abhishek

lord2001
05-24-2001, 02:07 AM
I tried some of them earlier but found that they were not up to my expectations.

Love
Lord