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Dexter
05-19-2001, 04:58 PM
Ok not sure if this is the best place to post but I figure this falls under the web development software catagory...

I'm looking for some sort of site maintainence system. A multiuser system where I can post news on the frontpage and easily post articles, stories, etc for the rest of the site... I've looked at stuff like php-nuke but not sure if this is the best choice for what I want to do... :confused:

If you look at my site basicusers.net it'll help to see what i'm trying to do. I just want it so that others besides me can just log into some control panel and post their tutorials, articles, etc.

TIA!

Dogma
05-20-2001, 12:14 AM
Someone is joining me in my quest!! BTW, in case your trying to search on the internet, they are general referred to as Content Managment Systems. Anyway, I have found a great one, but it costs like $15,000!!!! Take a look @ this thread (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6600&highlight=CMS).

Jedito
05-20-2001, 12:59 AM
PHP-Nuke is fully customisable, also you can change the theme.
I recommend you PHP-Nuke or PHP-Website.

ckizer
05-20-2001, 01:02 AM
Then there is always the $100,000 Storyweaver, all written in tcl ahahha no!

Fiber
05-20-2001, 02:29 AM
Originally posted by ckizer
Then there is always the $100,000 Storyweaver, all written in tcl ahahha no!

Or the one for $50 that SWI can write for me.

That or see if you can find someone who has written a CMS, and can make one customized for you.

Dogma
05-20-2001, 02:32 AM
Oh, I just remebered about Aroze (http://www.aroze.com). They will be releasing a very nice CMP soon for a very reasonable price (under $100 I think). For more info click here (http://www.aroze.com/spec_b.pdf) (PDF file)

Dexter
05-20-2001, 01:13 PM
Thanks for the info all...

If I don't find anything soon I'll probabbly just crank out a simple script to do what I want. Since all i really need is a simple thing to select where the article/tutorial will go, fill in title, content, etc have it slap it into a template and boom articles posted! :)

John_rwx
05-20-2001, 02:06 PM
"Greymatter" is a template based weblog/journal system that may be adaptable to your needs. I believe I've seen a few sites use it for content management.

You can find "Greymatter" at http://noahgrey.com/greysoft/

Now, if only the other type of greymatter were as easy to come by.

John

Jedito
05-20-2001, 02:16 PM
Dexter
Try Here (http://www.hotscripts.com/PHP/Scripts_and_Programs/Content_Management/) Maybe you can found what r u looking for.

Dexter
05-20-2001, 06:13 PM
I've decided to just make one myself... I'll opensource/gpl/whatever it since I'm just such a nice guy! :rolleyes:

I've just been goofing on today but I got a little "demo" to show off the features I plan to provide.

Check it out here: http://www.advanced-basic.com/ab-cms/

The plan is to make much of the interface html driven with just simple (if you can call it simple) cgi backends. for security unless someone has a better option will just be standard .htaccess/.htpasswd based...

BC
05-20-2001, 08:23 PM
Dexter,

Looks good so far! I'll have a closer look at it tonight and get back to this thread with my thoughts...

BC
05-21-2001, 01:15 AM
Yep, definitely very cool.

Now if we can just get someone to port it over to PHP/MySQL I'd be seriously happy :D (and you could use PHP/MySQL user authentication if people didn't have access to .htaccess).

Dogma
05-21-2001, 09:14 PM
Please keep us updated on your progress!!

Walter
05-22-2001, 04:42 AM
How about support for multiple languages?
:)

Dexter
05-22-2001, 11:14 PM
Well just a short notice...

got some work done, not much but the login system is about setup. Having some issues with how to make it as secure as possible. Right now I'm looking at using cookies but I hope to find something better.

Also I reged and submited to sourceforge so hopefully I can setup shop there. If I do I invite anyone interested in helping out to do so.

indigochild
05-30-2001, 05:34 AM
Originally posted by Jedito
PHP-Nuke is fully customisable, also you can change the theme.
I recommend you PHP-Nuke or PHP-Website.

I agree phpNuke and phpWebSite are probably the best choices when it comes to free scripts. I believe they are both open-source, but phpWebSite probably has the better development model because it's run by a whole team of developers and since it was started by a university, the code is much less sloppy.

Personally I use phpWebSite, it lacks plugins at the moment but it is pretty robust and dead easy to customise (unlike phpNuke which I always gnash my teeth over). They're also planning a complete rewrite soon, so watch out for phpWebSiteII in a few months' time, which is sure to become the premier open source web content management system.

That is not to say the current phpWebSite software is bad, I think it's one of the best out there... but the developers want to make it even better.

Here's a site of mine I'm working on using phpWebSite: http://www.secretwell.org

Wazeh
06-01-2001, 02:44 AM
Actually, ezPublish provides a very good CMS system. It is under GPL so you get the source and are free to modify it. It's far better than nuke since it uses templates, and has a modular design making changes so simple.

Take a look at http://developer.ez.no to see it working
For a good list of 'what's out there' in the world of CMS, try this page http://www.camworld.com/cms/

indigochild
06-01-2001, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by Wazeh
Actually, ezPublish provides a very good CMS system. It is under GPL so you get the source and are free to modify it. It's far better than nuke since it uses templates, and has a modular design making changes so simple.

Take a look at http://developer.ez.no to see it working
For a good list of 'what's out there' in the world of CMS, try this page http://www.camworld.com/cms/

eZPublish looks good but the requirements list is too long... it requires all sorts of apache/php mods and special server settings or some such thing which a lot of hosting places don't offer unfortunately :(
Otherwise I'd use it, it does look pretty cool.

I wish they'd make it like phpNuke or phpWebSite, without all the fancy requirements, just PHP.

Wazeh
06-01-2001, 07:28 PM
indigochild, if you need help (free) installing ezpublish on your server, fire me an email.

diyoha
07-09-2001, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by indigochild


eZPublish looks good but the requirements list is too long...

where is this list? Their site is really hard to navigate. Where were the requirements stated?

thanks

David

BC
07-09-2001, 07:50 AM
Originally posted by diyoha


where is this list? Their site is really hard to navigate. Where were the requirements stated?

thanks

David

http://developer.ez.no/article/static/31/

diyoha
07-09-2001, 09:11 AM
you are correct... there are a lot of "requirements" they do not seem soo bad. Hopefully they provide full documentation on howto get ... (and maybe install) the requirements :)

David

Wazeh
07-09-2001, 10:52 AM
Diyoha, the documentaion is not in very good shape, unfortunatly. It took me several days to get things working right. Mostly by trial and error.

First of all you have to have root access on the server. If you don't, then don't bother with it.

Now assuming you do have root access, you need these packages:

libxml2
imagemagick
Qt
PHP4.x source code

You will have to compile libxml2 first, then Qt after it.
Installing libxxml2 is not a problem, very easy job.
Qt is a bit tricky as you need to set the environment variables:
QTDIR /path/to/qt/source/tree
LD_LIBRARY_PATH $QTDIR/lib

If you don't set these up, your installation of pHP will fail so be warned :) This step is where most people fall.

Once Qt is installed, you will have to compile PHP and include the new libraries. You will of course need other options on the php configure command line, but these are the ones you need for this mission, so add them to whatever options you include normally:
-with-dom -with-qtdom

When finished with installation of PHP, you can install imagemagick. It's not linked into php in anyway, so you can install it at any stage.

When you finish these parts successfully, let me know and we'll go through the installation steps of ezpublish itself.

Feel free to email me directly if you like.

diyoha
07-09-2001, 10:59 AM
Hello Wazeh,

thanks for the tips and the offer for more help.

I am in the stages of finding a whole bunch of CMS solutions. My next step is deciding which to test. EzPublisher is not looking very attractive since I will have to recompile php for it ... PHP currently works fine on my Raq and I am not sure I want to muck around yet :D especially since I am not a very strong PHP admin/user

David

Wazeh
07-09-2001, 01:41 PM
Then ezpublish is probably off your list. If you are more into perl, you might take a look at http://www.masonhq.com/ for a perl-based CMS system.

Good luck :D

diyoha
07-09-2001, 02:16 PM
you are right ... I am more of a perl guru ... but I am very interested in getting into PHP ... I have a few books I started reading on it ... but as far as a cms solution I was hoping to find something (in php) that is powerful and is relatively easy to install ...

David