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zoobie
02-03-2003, 08:21 PM
I've been getting offers from hosts without sites up...:eek:

JeremyV
02-03-2003, 08:23 PM
Then I'd use your best judgement before signing up... well, I'm not sure how you can sign up unless it is over the phone.

UH-Matt
02-03-2003, 08:24 PM
Dont touch them.

Chances are they will only offer you something like AIM support which generally means there a 1 man show and will not live up to anything they tell you.

Of course the above is purely my own opinion. But thats coming from someone who works for a company with overheads ;)

Coach
02-03-2003, 08:25 PM
Welcome to the $5 hosting market. :rolleyes:

You'll see that and a lot worse when it comes to cheap hosts.

Curtis H.
02-03-2003, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by zoobie
I've been getting offers from hosts without sites up...:eek:
Are they members of WHT?

blackdog
02-03-2003, 08:27 PM
if they can't afford to hire someone to make a website, how long will they stay in business? think about that before you send them your money

UH-Matt
02-03-2003, 08:31 PM
I have seen a few people posting here with

"contact me on aim and i can sort you out"

and

"yo man ill hook you up with dis here sh*t"

... no matter how unimportant a site is when looking at a hosts quality, its a sure fire sign that the host is pretty terrible if they have no site at all! :D

intellec
02-03-2003, 08:38 PM
Repeat these words, "Just Say No"

Coach
02-03-2003, 08:42 PM
You should also be seriously worried if one of them gives you a hotmail or aol email address for support.

zoobie
02-03-2003, 08:51 PM
Yes...They are members here. :rolleyes:

I was going to offer to make one's front page in exchange for an account...but decided otherwise. :D

ATST
02-03-2003, 09:10 PM
When you bait your hook with crap, you are going to get the crappy fish.

DensityHost
02-03-2003, 10:14 PM
Yeah, if you're host can't afford a website, or do not have enough experience to whip up something "simple" themselves, I wouldn't go with them. Chances are if they don't have a website, they aren't a reputable host, and you should try to find one that not only has a good rep, but also a website. :)

WPT Kyle
02-03-2003, 10:16 PM
I agree with whats said above by density, You should choose your top 5 offers and then post it in a thread and have people give reviews

mtgm
02-03-2003, 11:03 PM
A host without a web site -- never heard of that before. :stickout:

...Not that it's all that expensive in the first place.

;)

Martie
02-03-2003, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by zoobie
I've been getting offers from hosts without sites up...:eek: That would definitely be a RED FLAG!!

coight
02-03-2003, 11:18 PM
AussieBob doesn't have a site :)

intellec
02-03-2003, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by ATST
When you bait your hook with crap, you are going to get the crappy fish.

what's wrong with bottom feeders. :stickout:

RossMAN
02-03-2003, 11:48 PM
What do you expect if you're only offering $5?

I offer website and my webhosting site says "COMING SOON ..." that's it, not even a pretty logo, picture or colors just that. Then again I only provide hosting to people that I know.

deadserious
02-04-2003, 01:54 AM
Maybe they don't want anyone find out who they really are?

zoobie
02-04-2003, 04:11 AM
Wudda ya think? Should I offer to make them a front page in exchange for space or just forget it? :laugh:

PS - Around $5 = around $5 :rolleyes:

UH-Matt
02-04-2003, 05:12 AM
Originally posted by zoobie
Wudda ya think? Should I offer to make them a front page in exchange for space or just forget it? :laugh:

PS - Around $5 = around $5 :rolleyes:

zoobie just go with a good host and safe the headache.

jamenjaw
02-04-2003, 05:19 AM
ok im going to pipe in here sence i am a host that does 4.95 a month hosting. right now i am a one man show and i let all of my new clients know that right away. but I do have a web site.

now i know people are going to say "well then your support sucks then" well i could say just ask a cupple of my clients but they are not on here as of yet.

I do have people wating once i hit a goal I have made the the business to hit, to be higherd on for tech help. i have a few clients right now and I have gotten about 6 support e-mails in 5 months. even tho i do talk to a cupple of my clients viea irc so i did anser there questions there. (total of about 3 did) the rest have had no problems at all.
and I have it on the page that lists the accounts that this is grate for a personal web site or a business just starting out and needs to do some testing before the main launching of the website.

just my two cents

Reptilian Feline
02-04-2003, 05:43 AM
As long as the clients know what they get, I don't see a problem with a one-man-show with looow prices. As long as the host/reseller doesn't take on too many clients, and don't offer anything advanced he/she can't easily fix.

When something that apperes to be a big company with lots of employees turns out to be a one-man-show THEN you have a problem.

Lirath
02-04-2003, 06:01 AM
okay okay, hold on here.

Just because they don't have a website doesn't mean anything.
I target local business and I don't have a website. I talk to all my people via phone and email. I do web design and I don't even have a website. Why would I need one when I GO TO the place I'm targeting with a brochure on me and my portfolio... that is my site :P

However, if they're targeting someone via internet... and they don't have a website. That IS a red flag.

ATST
02-04-2003, 07:31 AM
A webhost without a website is like:
A car salesman who doesn't own a car.
A domain registrar with a geocities site.
A realtor who lives with Mom.
A 400 lb person who sells diet pills.
There are just some things that a person needs to know about their business, that they can't know if they don't use what they are selling. Does the product suck so bad that they won't use it themselves, or is it that they know so little about it, that they don't know how to use it?

UH-Matt
02-04-2003, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by ATST
A webhost without a website is like:
A car salesman who doesn't own a car.


Well put :D

DigiCrime
02-04-2003, 07:41 AM
A webhost without a website is like:
A car salesman who doesn't own a car.
A domain registrar with a geocities site.
A realtor who lives with Mom.
A 400 lb person who sells diet

LOL!

akashik
02-04-2003, 09:57 AM
Dollars to donuts someone is just trying to seperate you from your hard earned money. Just report their message to the mods, or delete it.

Greg Moore

websitedesk
02-04-2003, 01:39 PM
whats' big deal about having a site?
For not being able to find someone (of their quality :D) who put up a real good site which sells for them, might be a valid reason for not having a site altogether.
Put a simple question "where is your website?".

Gordo
02-04-2003, 02:05 PM
If a man doesn't even have a hook to bait with crap, he's not likely to even catch crap.

mark_uk
02-04-2003, 02:06 PM
People making you offers are most likely to be ammatures but there are some other valid reasons, such as:
1. There website is work in progress
2. They have brought a dedicated server or reseller plan for some other sites they made and have some spare bandwidth to sell to cover the costs of the server.
etc....

zoobie
02-04-2003, 04:03 PM
I'm still getting offers from hosts that just have a "coming soon" sign up...but it's been up for weeks. :rolleyes:

I :laugh: at the reply that mentioned he was a web-site designer without a site. Business is kinda slow, eh? With all the free space available out there, there's really no excuse. Not only that, it will give you a showcase to show what you can do with coding...not just graphic representation. :rolleyes:

jamenjaw
02-05-2003, 04:13 AM
as i said before i do tell my clients that i am a one man show thats why i dont advertise to much right now I want to build up some funds then higher some one to help with ansering tech stuff.

im hoping not to have to do that for a while but when i hit that point Im not shure if ill be happy or sad:D:(

chrisbyrd
02-05-2003, 07:34 AM
it really doesnt take a lot of effort to set up a website so they cant be that serious about web hosting :oP

Shin
02-05-2003, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by chrisbyrd
it really doesnt take a lot of effort to set up a website so they cant be that serious about web hosting :oP

well depending on how you look at this you might be right.

I'm not a host, but if anyone here or anywhere wants to use my server for a bit of cash, I'd be more than happy to slip them a few gigs.

Since I have a didicated server with a 60 gig drive (of which i use maybe 2 gigs total) and 400 gigs of transfer (of which i use maybe 200) i'm always on the lookout for someone to split up the cost with.

I can pretty much promise that my uptime, service and support can rival ANY "true" hosting company out there.

If my server is down, so is my site, if my site is down, so is a source of my income. See?

I don't try to talk people into hosting with me, and I make it clear up front that i'm not a hosting company. People can make their own choices. I currently host 4 sites that are not mine. None have had a single complaint or even "trouble ticket" in the past year.

One needed an additional database, he hit me up on ICQ (where i am logged on around 18 hours per day) and it was done in minutes.

If it was a mission critical website I'd prolly not host with me ;) but if it was for some gaming clan, or a personal site, then I would :) simple, ya know?