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JBIZ718
05-14-2001, 06:28 PM
Hey,

Many of you I have spoke with have doubted my move to go on Yipeses backbone. But we have and are in the process.

Many questioned reliability, SLA, global peering.

Check out this article:

http://www.redherring.com/index.asp?layout=story&doc_id=1440019344&channel=60000006

As you can see, Yipes is here to stay for awhile with peering arrangments with UUnet and soon many others. Yipes is coming alot farther then you think.

Thoughts

Joe

cbaker17
05-14-2001, 07:40 PM
150 customers, their losing hands over fists of capital daily, 150 customers doesnt even come close to fill up their backbone.

What you seem to be forgetting is say we pay a premium price for a t3 from uunet, since yipes buys quite a bit of bandwidth they get a good deal for their bandwidth, but they will still pay a premium I know because I know what uunets pricing floors are for the big guys (I talk on a daily basis with the director of operations for sales).

So #1. their first obstacle is filling up their backbone fast, because while they do have a phenomonal amount of funding, its going to go very fast.

#2. If their paying 250.00/mbps (which for us little guys is like 3x that :( ) for peering bandwidth from uunet they have to oversubscribe their backbone, to make a profit which mean maybe a year down the line maybe years down the line your competing with other people on the backbone for bandwidth.

The nice thing about going with a tier 1 provider is when they sell you a T3 you get a T3 of bandwidth, you dont have to worry about a year or 2 or 3 years down the road, that youll be fighting with other t3 owners for bandwidth.

Im looking very closly at yipes to as a possible backbone for some wholesale operations we want to get into so im not dogging you in anyway JBIZ but to say that their here to stay is very careless to stay, psinet had millions of articles like this written about them, and right now their in bankruptcy court.

I would say Yipes is a too good to be true technology that is true and is here right now, if your on it right now you have the best of all worlds, but with my experience in the industry i can almost certainly say that that will not the case when they have more than a 150 customers under their wings. Tier 1 providers have been in business for 10-20 years, Yipes has been around for 2 years.

Now does that mean dont go with yipes? No, it means dont base your whole lively hood on their company.