The subject + poll says it all. Poll closes Thursday midnight, eastern US time.

Vote away... And please feel free to post any relevant comments.

N.B. The only thing we're not willing to compromise on is font size, which should be no larger than normal size (i.e. you can't go higher than 3).


<<Edit : sorry, I forgot to mention that a simple majority on the final vote count rules, thus avoiding the need for a Florida-style recount ;) .>>

Color Signature is Good and very eyes catching if not too many people use color signature.

If too many people use color signature this forum will become very colorful (in my opinion)

"Yes, definitely. They're eye-catching."

This was my vote. Just "Yes", not the rest.

"No. They should be the same for everyone in order to ensure fairness."

If color is allowed then it IS the same for everyone! Everyone has the same choice to change their sig to include color... or not. I don't have any color in my sig, but if the rule is changed back (to allow it) I may put some in just irk the signature (and avatar) police! (Not the mods... the wht WHINERS!)

"What in the world are you babbling about?"

I often wonder that! :)

Regards,
Michael

I don't think fairness is the issue; as MichaelD says, anybody could use colors, so that's fair. Still voting no, though, because they're just plain ugly.

Of course I'm being swayed by the one obvious garish example! :)

I voted yes, seen as we can't have company logos as an Avatar it allows us to be more individual and unique. I would personally prefer it if the vote were about logos as Avatars and keep sigs to b+w.

Yes karl i agree with you, i have started a thread here http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?postid=80327#post80327

I think colors on a signatures are ugly. The content should be eye catching, not the sig.

Originally posted by Walter
I think colors on a signatures are ugly. The content should be eye catching, not the sig.

agreed.

Como'n were losing!! more votes for colour sig's!!

colour sigs suck!!

im actually swaying toward hyperlinked sigs where it is the choice of the reader if they want to view the sig !!!!

just as it is the choice of the user if they want to view a users full detailed information !!

anybody agree to the same ?

I don't think colors are that bad in signatures. As long as not everyone start using them and all using different colors.

vote: YES

Originally posted by KDAWebServices
I voted yes, seen as we can't have company logos as an Avatar it allows us to be more individual and unique. I don't really understand that. There's no restriction at all on individuality; in fact that's what is being encouraged by eliminating company logos -- your avatar represents you as an individual. Unique? What's unique about a company logo?

Well as i am starting a hosting co. now, theres big part played by the logo and how you bring out your company. The logo is usually thought by the owner and reflects them in some way.

I'd have to vote no..
1) It's a forum, not a coloring book.
2) Do you really want to be seeing all these colors at 3am?
3) This place would be looking like an AOL chatroom overnight. :uzi:

Originally posted by Hostexp
Well as i am starting a hosting co. now, theres big part played by the logo and how you bring out your company. The logo is usually thought by the owner and reflects them in some way. There's a time and a place. The operators of this forum have made it clear that they don't intend it to be a place for hosting companies to attract customers, so it's not the place to have that part played by your logo. And if your logo reflects you in some way, you can certainly take those elements of it that are personal and integrate them into a personal avatar without mentioning your company name.

One of the hosts that uses a colored sig mentioned in another thread recently that when he changed his sig the number of signups/visitors to his site increased. To me, that's a strong argument for eliminating colors: it's not the intent of this place (except the ad forum, but there's no way to have a different sig definition there).

Are we here to read signatures? Why would you want color in signatures? Why don't we want colors in post instead?

Originally posted by klisis
Are we here to read signatures? Why would you want color in signatures? Why don't we want colors in post instead?

1. some of them here to look for helps regarding web hosting...

2. some of them here to look for a host...

3. some of them here to help each others and contribute to this forum...



My sig is propably targeted on category 2 visitors, and propably not 1 & 3...

NO, you have it a little wrong, people go to:

"Web Hosting Advertising / Offers Forum " for number 2 !!

people in the other forums are here to bash out information on web hosts, they may already have their servers and a sig on the end of each one of your messages is like an Auto Scrolling Banner Ad.

Originally posted by ksstudio

1. some of them here to look for helps regarding web hosting...

2. some of them here to look for a host...

3. some of them here to help each others and contribute to this forum...


You are right on that but you are missing something.

Search function is there for people to find reviews for hosts. I found my host on WHT from advertising forum and asked how fine the host was in general webhosting forum. Signature did nothing for me finding a suitable host for me.

What in the world are you babbling about? :D

who cares ;)

I have a suggestion about the SIG's. I think operators should make this a rule.

How about noone is allowed to put any advertisement in their sigs. I mean, that is why we have the "Web Hosting Advertising / Offers Forum" and the "Web Design Advertising / Offers Forum". All people can have in their SIG's is their company/website name as an url at the most. No offers, no prices, no nothing. We really don't need to see someones ads on every single thread in all forums!

my $0.02

If only more people were like you we could have PEACE!
Originally posted by CRego3D
What in the world are you babbling about? :D

who cares ;)

That is going to far, i think you should at least be allowed to have a 1 colour line and:
Company name
email
slogan

Originally posted by zolbian
I have a suggestion about the SIG's. I think operators should make this a rule.

How about noone is allowed to put any advertisement in their sigs. I mean, that is why we have the "Web Hosting Advertising / Offers Forum" and the "Web Design Advertising / Offers Forum". All people can have in their SIG's is their company/website name as an url at the most. No offers, no prices, no nothing. We really don't need to see someones ads on every single thread in all forums!

my $0.02

My vote is no, and it has nothing to do with "fairness" but retaining what is supposed to be the flavor of the forum. Of course, I'm more a fan of the minimalist approach, too.

With the sole exception of the advertising forum, the purpose of these forums is discussion, not advertising. Highlighting a company by the use of color or logos takes away from the purpose of these forums.

Even in the body of a posting, the use of too much color is not a good thing, as is true of bolding and other highlights. When you overdo it and everything is emphasized, nothing is emphasized. However, only good sense and taste should be the limiting factor for postings (so far, so good).

No so with signatures. I say anyone can use whatever color they like so long as it's black! The signature should be as they have been in the past, name, contact information, and a slogan or saying only, no pricing, plans or advertising hyperbole. It is a privilege to have one and is not the focus, thus, it should not be emphasized in any way.

A business avatar is an oxymoron. The very definition of avatar has to do with representing some facet of the individual. Logos don't do that.

I think we should be allowed an avatar that has got our company logo, but not its name.

For example, if your companys logo is a red sphere and says Wibly Wobly Webhosting - you should be able to have a red sphered avatar

Just my £0.2p :stickout

hmm, most people in here have never even heared of Pounds (£) and Pence (p) lol

Yeah, I agree that logo should be allowed, but I don't want fansy signature.

color is fine, just don't abuse it!

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Just an example.. :eek:

Leaving colors unrestricted but saying "don't abuse it," unfortunately, isn't likely to work. Then you have each person determining what "abuse" is, posting their "resonable" sig, and a flood of complaints and arguments until a moderator has to decide. Better to have a clear rule. And after all, the only reason this is even being discussed is because as soon as color became available via the software upgrade somebody did abuse it. If a couple of people had used one to emphasize a line or word in their sigs, most likely nobody would have cared at all.

I think the color is fine as long as people don't use to many colors or colors that make my eyes hurt. We should have a rule that states hosts can not advertise their services in their sigs, they can only put their company name and a link. Also that they should try use good colors and that they can use one other color except for black.

Limiting the color wouldn't be a bad idea *if* color was to be allowed at all..

I was just wondering how rainbow posts would go over. :D

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I commend you. :)


That's the type of sig I like to see and would like to see more of. These usually attract my attention more because it's simple and it's all right there rather than across the whole post. Only thing i'd disagree with is using words such as best, cheapest, etc.

Originally posted by ksstudio
Color Signature is Good and very eyes catching if not too many people use color signature.

If too many people use color signature this forum will become very colorful (in my opinion)


You say "eye catching", I say "distracting".

This is from the New Rules:

Above all, WHT is intended as an informational resource, not a commercial resource where you can poach customers.

If this is the case, then simple black and white is fine, because the sig is not important, it is post that is important.

I think it's sad that anyone's sig stands out more than what they say in a post.

No. They should be the same for everyone in order to ensure fairness.

What has fairness got to do with this? Its only up to the choice of an individual if colors were allowed.

But anyway I voted 'no', because I think colors in sigs makes the poster(& the forum) looks cheap. & desperate.... reminds me of porn sites. :D



Originally posted by zolbian
I have a suggestion about the SIG's. I think operators should make this a rule.

How about noone is allowed to put any advertisement in their sigs. I mean, that is why we have the "Web Hosting Advertising / Offers Forum" and the "Web Design Advertising / Offers Forum". All people can have in their SIG's is their company/website name as an url at the most. No offers, no prices, no nothing. We really don't need to see someones ads on every single thread in all forums!

my $0.02

I wonder how many people will stop posting if ads were disallowed in sigs... :D

Originally posted by CRego3D
What in the world are you babbling about? :D

who cares ;)

Hmm... I sure miss the times when all pple here talk about is hosting and helping pple out. & when the advertising forum is one where nobody visits! :)

Originally posted by schweiz


What has fairness got to do with this? Its only up to the choice of an individual if colors were allowed.

But anyway I voted 'no', because I think colors in sigs makes the poster(& the forum) looks cheap. & desperate.... reminds me of porn sites. :D

I wonder how many people will stop posting if ads were disallowed in sigs... :D

lol, you got that right.

My New Sig. Is it OK ?

Sorry for bringing too much trouble.

;)

I think a simple duotone sig would look good. ( 2 color). I voted no though as there will be a few clowns who go ahead and use 4 lines and too much text, in alternating colors.

Yet again,the screaming minority will make it unworkable for the well behaved majority. A round of applause for people without common sense.

ksstudio,

any reason you need 4 links to the same site? I would assume once they were there they could look around...

Greg Moore

ksstudio:

It's ok...for now, but you are going to have to change it again in a few days.

In addition to the maximum 4 line rule, signatures can not contain pricing/plan information or more than one hyperlink to your website. Allowing contact information and a short description, within the 4 line maximum, is permissible.

DO NOT forget to make sure you include webdesigners and other people offering services/products.

Originally posted by Tyme
ksstudio:

It's ok...for now, but you are going to have to change it again in a few days.



Thanks for pointing out, i didn't notice the new rule you quoted.

Akashik,

Thanks also for your comments.


:)

Originally posted by Seer

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I commend you. :)


That's the type of sig I like to see and would like to see more of. These usually attract my attention more because it's simple and it's all right there rather than across the whole post. Only thing i'd disagree with is using words such as best, cheapest, etc.

:) Nice and small (and black)

I dont use those words....I say Cheap, not cheapest :D

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im glad you have finally come to your senses!

;)

thanks