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slinky
07-19-2011, 12:59 PM
Hi guys - I can fully appreciate that setting up a server properly is more than just having it function online. I can admit that I've had to learn a great deal and still have a curve with regard to setup from top down - especially taking into account SEO, search engines, keeping certain things private from prying eyes (such as reverse DNS and those finding out who your other clients are on your servers.)

Right now I've got a clean set up for hosting different sites and keeping them separated. Some are clients but a good number will be for my own sites and hopefully providing SEO. I have 10 class C IP addresses with 5 per C class (total of 50 IP addresses.) I was wondering if there is a good tutorial with regard to proper setup. This would include:

(1) Different Class C IP Addresses. Best practices on this and use of the Class A that are included within each C block.

(2) Domain name registration - I assume that new domains would need to be privately registered / proxy or they will be connected with other sites owned by the same party. What do we do with sites already registered publicly? Should they be moved to a new registrar? Should we worry about domain name age changing to one more current?

(3) Setup of nameservers - Obviously this needs to be set up so that reverse dns issues don't cause problems where other sites can be pulled off of the same server. Sometimes it's best not to set up any custom nameservers, use others, etc.

(4) Other related information - Linking strategy, etc. etc.

The above probably sums up a good start to the list and was wondering if anyone has written anything on the subject that I would be able to read/acquire, etc.

Thanks in advance.

layer0
07-19-2011, 01:01 PM
Not to be rude but you are basically just wasting IP addresses (a pretty sparse resource these days on IPv4).

http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/myth-busting-virtual-hosts-vs-dedicated-ip-addresses/
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3583760678227172395

slinky
07-19-2011, 01:35 PM
Not to be rude but you are basically just wasting IP addresses (a pretty sparse resource these days on IPv4).

http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/myth-busting-virtual-hosts-vs-dedicated-ip-addresses/
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3583760678227172395

Here is my response:

(1) I'll believe that when I see facts that support the statements in the blog. Virtually nobody agrees for a variety of reasons and factors, e.g. see #2 as well.

(2) I am separating client sites from my own. Many of these, however, will have links back to my site in exchange for services I provide. At the same time, I don't want the IP addresses of my sites having issues because of something they may do.

(3) Not taking your response as rude, but if anyone wants to discuss with me on what is "right" and what resource limitations should be in theory, they can help arrange a meeting for us with Matt so we can talk about what Panda is doing to us. Hosting junk Adsense blogs and sites that mislead a customer solely to generate Adsense are also not "right." However, our business is encountering serious challenges as a result of these sites being rewarded by Panda and we are forced to sit on the sideline and watch while that happens, unable to do anything to right the situation.

layer0
07-19-2011, 01:46 PM
My point still holds. You're wasting IP addresses. "SEO" is not proper justification to ARIN, RIPE, or APNIC for an IP address. You are lucky to have been granted this allocation by your provider.

Virtual domain hosting exists for a reason, you don't need 50 IP addresses here at all.

slinky
07-19-2011, 02:05 PM
My point still holds. You're wasting IP addresses. "SEO" is not proper justification to ARIN, RIPE, or APNIC for an IP address. You are lucky to have been granted this allocation by your provider.

Virtual domain hosting exists for a reason, you don't need 50 IP addresses here at all.

(1) If each of my clients has their own IP addresses for their sites, I'm not "wasting" anything. Whether I might be able to more efficiently use IP addresses by using a shared server efficiently is another question. But see #2, which is really "number one."

(2) Your point is pointless if we go out of business because others are being rewarded for actual abuse.

Years ago I was a philosopher and didn't want to even skirt gray areas because I really wanted to make the world a better place. I still work hard to adhere to that philosophy but have discovered that those people are unemployed or unable to get by. Might as well share the sentiments with ICANN as well.

slinky
07-21-2011, 09:50 AM
Nothing like a good thread killer, especially since I'm hosting actual client sites. Ah well, I'll find a good resource. :)

jamescrai
08-16-2011, 01:49 PM
I'll believe that when I see facts that support the statements in the blog. Virtually nobody agrees for a variety of reasons and factors, e.g. see #2 as well.

fireboltz
08-23-2011, 02:05 AM
Is it possible to setup a server for seo hosting. Because seo net different proxies for the work so

steevewd
08-24-2011, 05:58 AM
This is difficult question for me.I did not know any thing about this.But it is good to know that kind of discussion.