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jolly
05-08-2001, 02:24 AM
Can anyone give me little bit more information about www.hostnoc.net
I talked to them and this what they said to me

hostnoc.net is an anonymous domain for the reseller's usage of a popular
hosting company.
We cannot supply the name of our company, due to this reason.
The whole purpose of this anonymous domain, is to get our reseller's more
business, not take potential clients away from them.

HOSTNOC

Does anyone knows which company is this Alabanza, cybercon, dialtone or..........
:D

ck
05-08-2001, 02:45 AM
I believe that is BurstNET :)

jsfla1
05-08-2001, 12:29 PM
Are you asking who Alabanza, Cybercon, and Dialtone are? These are all large web hosts with their own data center facilites.

You can find out more through their web sites:

http://alabanza.com/
<<REMOVED>>
http://dialtoneinternet.com/

dabystru
05-08-2001, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by jsfla1
Are you asking who Alabanza, Cybercon, and Dialtone are?No, he was asking who owns hostnoc.net.Originally posted by ck
I believe that is BurstNET :) BurstNET seems to be the right answer, as if you check IP owner of hostnoc.net (e.g. here (http://amail.co.uk/cgi-bin/atrace.pl?who=YES&ip1=hostnoc.net)) you see that the mantainer listed is BRST.

Phoenix
05-10-2001, 03:18 PM
What I can't understand is why they are being so coy about whois they are?

I checked whois on opensrs and the info for hostnoc is:

Registrant:
Network Operations Center, Inc.
PO Box #400
Bloomsburg, PA 17815-0400
US

Domain Name: HOSTNOC.NET

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.HOSTNOC.NET 66.96.193.3
NS2.HOSTNOC.NET 66.96.194.3
NS3.HOSTNOC.NET 205.162.51.248
NS4.HOSTNOC.NET 205.162.51.249


info for Burst.net


Registrant:
BurstNET Technologies, Inc.
PO Box #400
Bloomsburg, PA 17815-0400
US

Domain Name: BURST.NET

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.BURST.NET 205.162.50.248
DNS.BURST.NET 66.96.193.2
NS2.BURST.NET 205.162.50.249
DNS1.BURST.NET 66.96.194.2

As you can see by the nameserver IP's, they are from the same blocks.

Hostnoc=burstnet

teck
05-10-2001, 04:07 PM
its to protect people from finding out someone is a reseller for burst.net...

if you were a reseller for burst.net, would you rather use burst.net's dns servers where someone can goto burst.net and sign up themselves or hostnoc.net where there is no webpage.

GordonH
05-10-2001, 04:15 PM
This is common practice.

We use the domain srv2.com for name servers and for naming our servers, like green.srv2.com.

This allows us to offer resellers, secure server certificates and name servers which are one step away from us.
The certs are registered to our real company name which is not the name we trade under for web hosting.

Its also useful for us because we have several brands and can run the same name servers across them all.

Gordon

Phoenix
05-10-2001, 05:42 PM
its to protect people from finding out someone is a reseller for burst.net...

I must say, I find the reseller part of our industry to be very confusing.

if you were a reseller for burst.net, would you rather use burst.net's dns servers where someone can goto burst.net and sign up themselves or hostnoc.net where there is no webpage.

But I get it now, I think. Hostnoc.net's nameservers are the nameservers for use by the reseller hosts of burstNET who aren't running their own nameservers, or who are reselling shared hosting space.

JayC
05-11-2001, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by Phoenix
But I get it now, I think. Hostnoc.net's nameservers are the nameservers for use by the reseller hosts of burstNET who aren't running their own nameservers, or who are reselling shared hosting space. Exactly. As someone said, it's pretty common.

But I think that, whoever it is, they are giving about the worst answer there could be to those queries. Basically saying "we can't tell you who we really are" sounds evasive, and will inevitably create suspicions in the mind of anyone investigating one of their resellers.

shadowbreed
05-16-2001, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by dabystru
No, he was asking who owns hostnoc.net.BurstNET seems to be the right answer, as if you check IP owner of hostnoc.net (e.g. here (http://amail.co.uk/cgi-bin/atrace.pl?who=YES&ip1=hostnoc.net)) you see that the mantainer listed is BRST.

They also have the same p/o box