guys!! we are thinking to offer the following Deal and we want your feedback :

Free 1u Co-lo

FREE Setup, 1U rack space, Unlimited IPs, basic Monitoring, manual reboot, and DNS services.

you only pay for bandwidth

bandwidth packages prices :

200GB $259.00
300GB $299.00
400GB $385.00
500GB $450.00
600GB $525.00

If you order more then 600GB then each GB will be .8
1000GB $800.00
If you order more then 1000GB then each GB will be .70

You only pay for the data transfer from your servers. we charge $2 pre GB if you go above your bandwidth package

there is no contract or commitment. however, if you pre pay for a 6 months in Advance, you will get 5% off. and if you pre pay for a 12 months in Advance, you will get 10% off

we will accept 1U servers only.

I got some emails about adult Sites.!! :angry:

Please Read our Policies at :

http://www.hostpx.com/about/policies.jsp

We will not accept any site that are not lawful. No SEX, SPAM, HACKERS.

While I don't frequent these sites myself, adult sites are not unlawful -- they are perfectly legal. Many hosts will not host them however. I believe this is due to the high amount of traffic they attract.

On a dedicated or colo server adult sites should be no problem (of course for a virtual it would be too much traffic) - so I do not know what you mean by "not legal".

Not because they are not lawful we reject those sites, it is just we hate those site and wish they are all gone. I have chlidern in my house and I will not be happy to see anyone of them watching those sites!!

and by the way, I know for sure that it is not lawful to have them here in Kansas!! when we asked SB to get a DS3, we have been told that we should not have any Adult Sites in our network because it is not legal.

well, that what SB told us, so I assume it is not legal to have them in our network all over the US.

and when we are selling colo, we don't care about the amount of traffic as long as it doesn't go higher then what they are paying for. In fact, we like clients who take so much traffic because those the ones we make money from ;-)

anyway, I personally don't care if you have a Sex web site, but I will never go with a hosting company that allow it in their network. and there are so many hosting companies that wouldn't allow adult sites On a dedicated or colo server and we are one of them. if there is anyway I can stop those Adult sites I will do it even if it cost me Money, and Time.

This is entirely OT, but while there have been laws in the past in the US which restricted the publication of pornography online (eg, CDA, COPA), I do not believe that there are any which have not been held as unconstitutional by the courts.

Now, it is well within your rights to refuse to allow pornographic traffic on your networks -- anti-discrimintion laws haven't gone that far yet ;) -- but please don't claim that it is a legal issue.

cperciva, I didn't claim that, this is what SB told us!!

anyway, I don't care whether its legal or not. THERE WILL BE NO pornography accepted in to our network :D

Originally posted by jman
We will not accept any site that are not lawful. No SEX, SPAM, HACKERS.

No matter what you say, you do seem to imply that adult material is illegal by putting it in the context of hackers and spam. FYI, the correct word to use for hackers would have been "crackers". :mad:

Originally posted by jman
guys!! we are thinking to offer the following Deal and we want your feedback :

Free 1u Co-lo


great prices :) Wonder: what sort of connectivity does your uplink provider have, and what sort of connectivity do yuo get from your uplink? [note: the two questions are very different :) ). What kind of uptime guarantee do you have? What bandwith measurement do you use?
Physical access? Location (or better yet, which NOC)?

Next, how if we just buy the bandwith and send several 1U servers (with shared bandwith)... how much will the rack charge be?

I believe somebody else would surely ask you these questions sooner or later :D

cheers,
:beer:

avara, you might want to read this :
http://www.yipes.com/about/accept_use.html

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The Answers for dektong Questions :D
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we will be connected with 100mbps from cogent and yipes. also a DS3 from Cable & Wireless will be added soon. we use less then 3mbps each month!!

our uptime should not be less then 100%, however, to be in the safe side, we will guarantee 99.9% uptime.

What bandwith measurement do you use?
monthly average. Bandwidth is fully burstable.we provide you with a 10/100 ethernet uplink.

Physical access?
what do you want to do with the server? If you have a good reason we will allow you to do it. this is how it goes, those servers are put in a private secured cabinet, in order for you to get to that cabinet you need to pass a Biometric Palm Scanner and Card Key access control. then we have to open the cabinet(locked) for you and wait untill you finish because it is not your cabinet and there are other people's servers in that cabinet that we need to keep them as Secure as possible. we do this for your own protection. however, if you have your own cabinet , then you can access them when ever you want.

Location (or better yet, which NOC)?
your servers will be in Colo Data Centers. I am sure you know about them, you can take a ture at their Facilities http://www.colo.com/facilities/facilities_tour.htm


how if we just buy the bandwith and send several 1U servers ??

each 1U server should have more then 200GB. this is how it work, you get your free space and you buy bandwaith for that space, so you are not buying the bandwith for the server, you are buying the bandwith for the space that we give it for free.if you get five servers at least you have to have 1000GB for them. and you could have those five servers in the same table, so they all will shared bandwith.

what if my server is a 2u or a 4u ?
you can colo those servers with us, we will give you the space for the first "U" and you have to pay $50 for addational Us. so a 2u server will be $50 per month, and a 4u server will be $150

If you have more then one server, then you might want to get a private secured cabinet FOR FREE, read about it here :http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=10513

and finally, I really thank you dektong for those good questions.

Oh man Yipes and Cogent for your bandwidth? Cable and Wireless I could understand.

That is the funniest thing I have heard for a week.

What's wrong with Yipes.

we are using both, Yipes, and Cogent. they are both Great. and we will add Cable & Wireless! so what is wroge with our connectivity??

and to tell you something, we only use less then 3mbps, so you are going to be in a clear network! not like others who use more then 60% of their connectivity!

and we only use Extreme Networks Switches!! so you are using the best for a few dollars!!

some say that this offer is too good to be true! Yes, this is not our real price, and we are not making money from it!

then you ask why do we offer those prices and we are not making money out of it, the reason is that we want to extand our network, so we had a deal with colo.com to have cages in their Data Centers and other deals with Cogent and Yipes and Extreme Networks ( and soon Cable and Wireless). we will have some of our stuff in their data center so that we can make sure that our network is up and running all the time. this will cost us a lot of money.

we need to cover those costs, so we offer this to you guys for a limited time. after that we will charge our normal prices. if you sign up right now, you will have the same prices here as long as you are with us, so even if we change our prices, you will have the same price as the one you sign up for.

this is a great price that I am very sure no one can beat it! we are only offering those prices to cover the high monthly cost we pay for our providers. once we get enough people that at least cover 75% of our cost we will stop this offer!

I hope I got things clear and no one thinking that we have a catch here!!

Originally posted by jman
avara, you might want to read this :
http://www.yipes.com/about/accept_use.html

Yipe's acceptable use policy aside, I am very doubtful about the quality of the bandwidth they provide, as well as their peering arrangements.

Well to answer the question about why I think it might be bad is this.

1. Peering agreements.

2. DWDM technology is something the industry is probably moving towards to utilize current fiber but unfortunately for us as providers not standard. For example my understanding is they are sending 7 wavelengths over fiber which is not industry standard. So what happens is when those 7 wavelengths get to parts of the internet (which is most of it) without that technology it will bottleneck. Thus creating packet loss and latency to name a few things. IF you are sending information from a Yipes/Cogent enabled system to another of their buildings/businesses it should be a great way to go. I personally love how they are doing it if you are a business with multiple locations all on their network because it is fast and inexpensive. For most websites it really doesn't make sense though.

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some say that this offer is too good to be true! Yes, this is not our real price, and we are not making money from it!

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Well using that bandwidth I do not see how you could make that statement. Right on the front of cogents ( http://www.cogentco.com ) website shows they are selling 100 mbps for $1000 dollars, so assuming you are only buying that amount your per GB cost is around 3 cents per.

Best Regards,

I know for sure that yipes are using LeveL3 network. and I have been told that they don't have their own lines, they are just a reseller for the big guys. and I guess it is the same for Cogent.

I have worked with those providers, you name it, SW, Qwest, XO, Level 3, AT&T, Time Warner. and I finaly find out about Yipes. and I will tell you that Yipes is as good as those if not even better!

also, as I said, it is costing us a lot, let me do it for you.
Cogent charge $3000 per month for 100mbps.
yipes charge $275 per MB.
C&W charge $320 per MB.

also, we pay our stuff to be there 24/7

and not to forget that you will be hosted in one of the best Data Centers in the US. the space at that Data Center also cost us money!

and don't forget those exp. "Extreme Networks Switches"

anyway, I know that anyone who reads this offer will know that he/she will get the best deal ever. this deal will inculde :

1) Very Good connectivity with three providers
2) we will guarantee that the network will be available 99.99% of the time in a given month( you will have this in paper)
3) Free Space as long as you stay with us.
4) State-of-the-art Data Centers.
5)UPS system deployed in parallel redundant configuration with N+1 modules
6)Generator backup to 100% of customer peak load w/24-hour fuel supply and guaranteed refueling contracts.
7)24 x 7 manned facility, with a Biometric Palm Scanner and Card Key access control.
8) FREE Setup
9) Free IPs
10) Free basic Monitoring
11) Free manual reboot

if you like this offer, please let me know by sending me an email at sales@hostPx.com

if you would like to talk about Yipes, or other topic, then we could open a new topic in the right Forum and talk about it there.

should you have any other questions about this deal, please let us know

Originally posted by jman
........ also, as I said, it is costing us a lot, let me do it for you.
Cogent charge $3000 per month for 100mbps.
yipes charge $275 per MB.
C&W charge $320 per MB.

also, we pay our stuff to be there 24/7

and not to forget that you will be hosted in one of the best Data Centers in the US. the space at that Data Center also cost us money!

and don't forget those exp. "Extreme Networks Switches"................


I think you forgot to mention the $99/month for the dedicated server from Rackshack

you guys are funny???

So what is the point MR. Marshall??

am I here to tell you all what we have in our company??

and about that dedicated server from Rackshack? yes we have servers with Rackshack.net, !! All our small accounts are with Raqs in Rackshack data center. so are you happy???

and we also forget to tell you about our Dedicated Servers that we host with DN.com ( known as verio ) and few others.

Marshall, any person can go and do a whois in hostpx.com and know it points to Rackshack.net.

So what is the point??? if you like the offer just say I want it, or just leave it. if you have questions then just tell me and I will do my best to answer you! and acting like you know a lot, isn't nice!

Best Regards,

I think we all like the offer. I would have to ask my old econ professors about the viability of selling services for less than cost though and how long that business will be around.

Best Regards,

Originally posted by jman
you guys are funny???

So what is the point MR. Marshall??



I just find it very amusing when a "company" gets itself a server from Rackshack, comes here to ask for help at various occasions, promotes itself anonymously not once (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?postid=64829#post64829) but twice (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?postid=64827#post64827), and less than a month later is offering free secure cabinets.
That is funny indeed.

i just wonted to buy 2000GB from but but it's adult
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Thanks guys!! This was a really fun read!

I'm an idiot and don't have much idea what you're talking about.. . . . but just some fine readin':D

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