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Palindrome
01-12-2003, 02:33 PM
http://oktagone.net.au/

looks like a good deal. Was wondering if anyone has hosting from them?

UH-Matt
01-12-2003, 02:34 PM
$15 for 100gb, they are overselling BADLY, not a good sign...

loopforever
01-12-2003, 06:10 PM
The guy that runs Oktagone is a good guy, and I know that he has quite a fair amount of servers in two datacenters. For his sake, and his companies sake I won't disclose where they are located, but they are both popular among dedicated server owners on this forum - and both of them offer large amounts of bandwidth, which he in turn is able to pass along to his clients. I will see if I can contact him and have him respond to this thread for you.

UH-Matt
01-12-2003, 06:18 PM
Are they in the far east somewhere ? (asia etc..) ?

ForumsAddict
01-12-2003, 06:24 PM
Are they in the far east somewhere ? (asia etc..) ?

Are servers or bandwidth cheaper in Asia? :confused: sorry could not get what u meant by this :)

loopforever
01-12-2003, 06:27 PM
First let me just say, that I am not affiliated with Oktagone, the owner has been very helpful to me recently, and I believe he is a nice person. Second, I also want to state that I am not affiliated with this company, I simply know a bit more about it than most other people.

The servers are in the US, but judging from his domain, the owner is Australian.

Curtis H.
01-12-2003, 06:31 PM
The servers are in Texas?

ForumsAddict
01-12-2003, 06:37 PM
yup rackshack i think..

UH-Matt
01-12-2003, 06:43 PM
so he is overselling quite considerably.

IGobyTerry
01-12-2003, 06:44 PM
I'd be very weary. Either he doesn't plan on getting very big, or his business plan is pretty flawed. 100gb for 15 dollars a month is some serious overselling. Rackshack sells their servers at 99 a month. It would take 7 accounts to break even, and at that point he'd be alloting 700 GB's of bandwidth if everyone bought the 15 dollar plan. So he's already 300GB's over if everyone were to use the 100GB's assigned.

ATST
01-12-2003, 06:46 PM
With prices like this:
$5 / month
10GB TRANSFER
1 GB DISK SPACE
I suspect that soon, they will be Oktagone

Is that like "gone" times 8?

* Sorry, I just couldn't help myself.

insaneraptor
01-12-2003, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by ATST
With prices like this:
$5 / month
10GB TRANSFER
1 GB DISK SPACE
I suspect that soon, they will be Oktagone

Is that like "gone" times 8?

* Sorry, I just couldn't help myself.


very cheesy ;)

UH-Matt
01-12-2003, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by inogenius
100gb for 15 dollars a month is some serious overselling. Rackshack sells their servers at 99 a month. It would take 4 accounts to break even,

Your maths is out

$15 x 4 = $60

he would still be losing money with just 4 accounts.

$15 x 7 = $105 is roughly breaking even.

So he is reselling his bandwidth by almost double (700gb) just to break even... terrible business plan.

IGobyTerry
01-12-2003, 07:11 PM
oh crap... you're right. I don't know what I was thinking.

loopforever
01-12-2003, 07:12 PM
I'm sure he isn't selling the 100gb accounts on his RS servers, that, as all of you have said, is excessive overselling. I know he has at least 4 other servers at another datacenter, and I believe that is where he's selling those accounts from.

Curtis H.
01-12-2003, 07:13 PM
We all know a host who was selling 60 gigs per month for slightly less than that. Was the best thing since butter but that plan didn't last long.

Their still in business but you don't hear much of them anymore.

IGobyTerry
01-12-2003, 07:14 PM
Would they be either United Colo or FDC?

loopforever
01-12-2003, 07:15 PM
And actually, considering the amount of bandwidth his other provider offers, he is profiting from selling those 100gb accounts. As to inogenius' question, let Oktagone disclose this information. I don't feel it's my place to do so.

IGobyTerry
01-12-2003, 07:16 PM
We all know a host who was selling 60 gigs per month for slightly less than that. Was the best thing since butter but that plan didn't last long.

AWH? Also has anyone else noticed that their site seems to be slower (It's still fast) since they moved to HE from Rackshack? I've noticed that sites hosted on Rackshack load extremely fast for me.

Elmoe
01-13-2003, 01:53 AM
Okay, first i'd like to clear the air about OktaGone.

OktaGone's primary aim is to provide high quality, low cost hosting to gaming sites, for free.

We host a number of gaming sites, like modDB, Earth's Special Forces, Existence, Battlefield Central, and many others, which we host for Free (like, sponsored).

These sites are all hosted on Rackshack boxes.

Now on my main site, i have listed the two packages consist of the following.


Ensim Package
10Gb bandwidth
1Gb space.

Now with this package, we only put 40 per server, which leaves room for each site to go beyond their quota with ease (However, we dont bill if users go "slightly" over their quota, and the server doesnt use over the RS bill limit of 400Gb.)

The servers are either P4 1.7Ghz machines, or P4 2Ghz machines with either 512Mb of RAM, or 1Gb of RAM (40 / 80Gb hdds).

You can see our two main webservers here -> http://oktagone.com/network.php (Mannaroth & Xandra)

Now, unlike other hosting companies, OktaGone isnt out there to make a profit. Our goals at the moment are to come even with server costs, and any money left over (we make between $40 - $100 per RS server per month) going back into the gaming community.

With the Ultimate CPanel package -
100Gb Transfer
5Gb space

Its hosted on a UnitedColo box - which - is a P4 2.0Ghz with an unmetered 10Mbps connection, and a 120Gb hdd.

We put 30 accounts on these boxes, which also takes the box to 3000Gb transfer, & 150Gb space (slight overkill, but if the box ever came near that limit, we'd stick another hdd in it)

You can see the system specs of it here
http://cp1.oktagone.com/sys/

or

http://mrtg.unitedcolo.com/Cisco-21A/port6.html

So with the unitedcolo plan we make a little more profit, which pays for my home internet costs of around $80 USD per month, and also misc costs.

The Unitedcolo / Cpanel package is backed by an uptime guarantee also. (The RS / Ensim plan isnt, as RS wouldnt give us 5 cents for downtime even if we sued them.)

If anyone wants further information on this, dont hesistate to post a question, and i'll do my best to reply to it :)

UH-Matt
01-13-2003, 04:44 AM
offering an uptime guarantee on a unitedcolo box must really hurt ;)

coight
01-13-2003, 04:52 AM
Originally posted by UH-Matt
offering an uptime guarantee on a unitedcolo box must really hurt ;)

:D

Elmoe
01-13-2003, 05:20 AM
Originally posted by UH-Matt
offering an uptime guarantee on a unitedcolo box must really hurt ;)

Actually - it doesnt. I have never had any real problems with UC - and they also reinburse me for network outages, which i can pass down to my customers.

rackyou
01-14-2003, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by ATST
Is that like "gone" times 8?

* Sorry, I just couldn't help myself.
So his previous hosting co. was called septagone? :D

ATST
01-14-2003, 04:47 PM
unogone
duogone
trigone . . . :D

Paul_9cy
01-14-2003, 05:00 PM
Well I just signed up and intend using the bandwidth Hopefully they'll last a good while :)

But seriously give them a chance if they crash they crash you lose nothing you may gain some customers.

Its viable on a 3000 Gig transfer UC box to put those figures 30 to the box there's gonna be hardly anyone using the full 100 so I ain't to bothered.

alwaysweb
01-20-2003, 04:25 AM
Sorry to clutter this thread (which isn't ours)... but to correct and reply:

Originally posted by Curtis H.
We all know a host who was selling 60 gigs per month for slightly less than that. Was the best thing since butter but that plan didn't last long.

Their still in business but you don't hear much of them anymore. Haha, yes we're still here. The plan was intended as a limited time offer to help us grow quickly. We've hit critical mass and don't need to rely on WHT much for signups anymore. :D


AWH? Also has anyone else noticed that their site seems to be slower (It's still fast) since they moved to HE from Rackshack? I've noticed that sites hosted on Rackshack load extremely fast for me.Our main site is still hosted at RackShack... that hasn't changed. I'm also curious how you know which of our sites are at RackShack still, or any of our clients. But, that's a whole new thread. ;)