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AlexBlundell
01-04-2011, 10:15 AM
I've currently got a VPS at BurstNET EU, and i'm looking for a place to store my external backups. I'd preferably like somewhere in Europe (UK, if possible). I've had a look at BursNET's backup storage solutions, and while they are good, I don't like the idea of my backup and my VPS being in the same DC - or being with the same provider. I've been looking at other backup solutions, which are much more expensive, but I only really want to pay max £3/4 per month for it, as it is really just storage of a file, along with peaked bandwidth every week etc.

Could you recommend a provider to me?

After looking at dedicated backup solutions, I decided to look into maybe just getting a shared hosting account, and storing the backup there, but after emailing a few, they didn't like the sound of me using their hosting just for storage! - Understandable. Then I went on to think - VPS? Why not get another VPS, rock bottom RAM etc, for really cheap..

What do you guys suggest? If I did get a VPS, I'd remove apache etc, and just leave SSH access so I can scp the backup across.

Tin
01-04-2011, 11:38 AM
Check out gogrid for their cloud storage. It's a low cost solution for an offsite backup.

Kevin K
01-04-2011, 12:24 PM
I would check out http://www.serversync.com . I have been using them for backup for quite some time now and they have worked well. Their prices are pretty easy on the wallet.

hostexpress
01-06-2011, 12:03 AM
I have used jumpdrive.com which is owned by rackspace and they have a pretty affordable backup solution. If you have a lot to backup I would recommend a solution in the same DC or at least close since the backup and restore transfer can take a long time if you have a lot of data. If you ever need to do a full restore you don't want it to take 24 hours... Good luck.

- Dave

Shakehost-Chris
01-06-2011, 12:22 AM
check out servercomplete.com there decent place and good prices

HostXNow
01-06-2011, 01:21 PM
VPSs can be too unreliable to be used for backing up data, due to a lot of VPS nodes being overloaded (from the provider overselling/bad management) = poor performance/uptime, etc.

It's best to use a provider that specializes in Offsite Backups. And you may need to contact them for a custom plan if what you're after is lower/higher than the plans advertised on their website.

How much storage space do you need?

hostexpress
01-06-2011, 01:37 PM
I have used jumpdrive.com which is owned by rackspace and they have a pretty affordable backup solution. If you have a lot to backup I would recommend a solution in the same DC or at least close since the backup and restore transfer can take a long time if you have a lot of data. If you ever need to do a full restore you don't want it to take 24 hours... Good luck.

- Dave

Sorry, I meant jungledisk.com and not jumpdrive.

oliviakitty
01-06-2011, 02:17 PM
I have used SplitServ.com for over a year.

I have daily FTP backups automatically performed by WHM for over 100 accounts (files + databases). I have 20 GB of disk space total; currently using 10 GB.

I have a killer price per month (single digit),
But I won't post it since I'm not sure it's still being offered...

mugo
01-07-2011, 02:42 AM
I've currently got a VPS at BurstNET EU, and i'm looking for a place to store my external backups. I'd preferably like somewhere in Europe (UK, if possible). I've had a look at BursNET's backup storage solutions, and while they are good, I don't like the idea of my backup and my VPS being in the same DC - or being with the same provider. I've been looking at other backup solutions, which are much more expensive, but I only really want to pay max £3/4 per month for it, as it is really just storage of a file, along with peaked bandwidth every week etc.

Could you recommend a provider to me?

After looking at dedicated backup solutions, I decided to look into maybe just getting a shared hosting account, and storing the backup there, but after emailing a few, they didn't like the sound of me using their hosting just for storage! - Understandable. Then I went on to think - VPS? Why not get another VPS, rock bottom RAM etc, for really cheap..

What do you guys suggest? If I did get a VPS, I'd remove apache etc, and just leave SSH access so I can scp the backup across.

You did come to all the right conclusions so far, and are on the right track.

I would highly suggest getting 1-2 dedicated VPSs to dump your backups to. It works very well for some of my backup-as-service deployments, and wonderful for snapshots.
Shared hosting providers almost unanimously have the "can't be used for backup / file storage" clause, and for good reason, if you think about it...

You never want to keep your backups with the same company, nailed that one for sure. Even with purchased backup. I generally don't recommend 3rd party services. Too often, when needed, they are either not there, too old, or have some other issue. Just like your financial info, "keep all the keys".

Backups - I've rolled out services that use 2 or more VPSs, one that's a master, another master + snapshots, just to make sure you have two copies, and generally do snapshots on the most reliable and / or largest allowed space of the virtual machines in question.

Good questions, shows you are thinking right, IMHO. :)

DeanoC
01-07-2011, 07:33 AM
The key question for backups is how reliable are your backups, if you not willing to put your current data on non redundant storage, then don't put your backup on unsafe storage.
However you do it, silent corruption has to being caught. Else you may find your backup isn't the data you want to recover.
The only time this doesn't matter so much is if your doing total uploads frequently, in which case silent corruption is extremely unlikely due to scrub affect of delete/update.

I'm biased of course ;) so I would say third party backups are likely (hopefully) to have considered these issues, so at least you know that when your data gets to their server its safe and ready to come back to you when your need it 24/7. Its a simple no work solution, however if you don't mind a bit of extra work then as mentioned, a good cheap solution for low amounts of data, is to go to somewhere like lowendbox, find a couple of really cheap vps (make sure they use different datacenters) and copy onto them. Use the small bit of power the vps's have to verify their copies (regular MD5 checks or cross VPS scans of the same data). Have them email if MD5 check fails and then you can do a three way scan (original + 2 backups) to find the legit copy and copy over the dodgy one from a good one.

Tom,
01-15-2011, 08:50 PM
How much data have you got to backup?

serveradmin4linux
01-15-2011, 10:17 PM
You can use cdp backup. I thihnk its paid one !

Jimbrown123
01-28-2011, 04:32 AM
there are few things that you have to kept few things in minds. Its should be immediately accessible backups, backups that are accessible quickly . They should be have offsite backup storage. So i follow stratigic like this

che09
01-31-2011, 12:03 AM
Storing important files on your computer is a risky proposition. With the growing threats of viruses and worms and inevitable computer crashes, your files and data are vulnerable to damage or worse yet – being lost completely.

WG47
02-06-2011, 03:11 PM
Look into Amazon S3. I was pleasantly surprised at how cheap it is if you're not moving a lot of data around.

Dieniorlern
02-06-2011, 07:23 PM
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