Wikileaks was briefly taken down by a large-scale DDoS attack that bombarded the site's servers. It is back up after migrating to Amazon's cloud.

http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2010/11/wikileaks-moves-to-amazons-cloud-to-evade-massive-ddos.ars

I thought this was interesting.

interesting.. AFAIK, they were in a french hosting for a while


edit: weird thing is that the cablegate link does not load .

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http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2010/11/wikileaks-moves-to-amazons-cloud-to-evade-massive-ddos.ars

I thought this was interesting.

Wow, this is real cyberwar now.

They were in The Planet

They've been bouncing around on Amazon (San Jose apparently) for close to a week..

I'm just curious...

In case one day WikiLeaks knocks on your doorstep and sign-up.
Will you accept their subscription? and why?

Will you accept their subscription? and why?

Let me answer your question with another question. Why not?

Let me answer your question with another question. Why not?

2 Reasons.

1) I don't agree with what they release on their site and I believe it is just a matter of time before they release something that has true legal ramifications.

2) They will be a magnet for retaliation from everyone.

Let me answer your question with another question. Why not?

Can your infrastructure handle a global and very public target like that?

Let me answer your question with another question. Why not?

Maybe you need to ask this first with your DC.

Personally, I'm not buying the whole Wikileaks thing tbh.

I see it as a way the US government can tell then world what they really think of everyone and where they stand.

All the information thats been leaked so far has posed no serious real threats and the media is simply focussing on key parts of information purely for hype purposes.

77 domains were pulled by homeland security this week related to warez/counterfeit goods. Wikileaks doesnt get pulled when using Amazon networks, mirroring on US soil, etc...

It seems a little too convenient imho.

Personally, I'm not buying the whole Wikileaks thing tbh.

I see it as a way the US government can tell then world what they really think of everyone and where they stand.

All the information thats been leaked so far has posed no serious real threats and the media is simply focussing on key parts of information purely for hype purposes.

77 domains were pulled by homeland security this week related to warez/counterfeit goods. Wikileaks doesnt get pulled when using Amazon networks, mirroring on US soil, etc...

It seems a little too convenient imho.

Fair enough but every country has secrets. Some are more important than others but some affect negotiations like diplomatic documents. We are all slaves to our egos from time to time and the wrong internal discussion getting out can be taken out of context.

The 77 domains pulled deserved it. You can only enable illegal file sharing for so long before someone does something about it. Or are you questioning if the sites were doing something wrong?

By the way, why would wikileaks move to a US hosting company given that the country most pissed at them is the US?

I don't get that thinking. Anywhere else would seem to be better. I imagine someone is checking local US laws to figure out if they can now do something about it.

By the way, why would wikileaks move to a US hosting company given that the country most pissed at them is the US?

Provoking the concerned individual I guess.
It's like...come on baby I'm here and near you.

Here's another view:
Surely, the documents released via Wikileaks are good material and attract the attention of various terrorist organizations. Not only that, certain documents will be redistributed and talked about via the internet.
These documents contain information which is not contained any where else on the internet.

What does this mean?
You have a very unique data set to filter traffic for, and see who's actually talking about the data on US Soil (and surely beyond). This means you can pinpoint intel gathering efforts of any US Based terrorist cell, and possibly acquire enough information to locate the whereabouts of such a cell.

Is the US Government supporting this de-classified document distribution? I don't believe so, but they sure as hell aren't doing anything yet to stop it!

Thanks for reading,
Gotoitguy

Surprise, surprise.

Amazon kicked Wikileaks off EC2:
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/12/02/0342220/Wikileaks-Booted-From-Amazon

Surprise, surprise.

Amazon kicked Wikileaks off EC2:
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/12/02/0342220/Wikileaks-Booted-From-Amazon

Yep. Confirmed in other news sources, as well.

Is it ironic for a book seller to kick off such a web site?

-mike

Heh, I found this extremely funny.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/02/wikileaks_hacker_arrest_confusion/

Yep. Confirmed in other news sources, as well.

Is it ironic for a book seller to kick off such a web site?

-mike

Their official response to this:

http://aws.amazon.com/message/65348/

Wow, the guys is so busy finding a host:rolleyes:. all these news make them more popular and make people more curious .

wikileak domain killed by US :D

http://twitter.com/wikileaks

I think soon they are going to kill their twitter and facebook account as well . Aren't they all based in US;)

wikileak domain killed by US :D

http://twitter.com/wikileaks

wow !!! Let's see what's new name for wikileaks and who host them. Iran, north korea or china? ;)

wow !!! Let's see what's new name for wikileaks and who host them. Iran, north korea or china? ;)

Most likely with a .se and hosted by the Swedish Pirate Party. The domain was not taken over, but the DNS servers stop serving WikiLeaks, which means it is time for them to start there own DNS servers or go with a more reliable company.

Their official response to this:

http://aws.amazon.com/message/65348/

A fine example of spinspeak.

It makes perfect sense that they would put the stuff back into the US.

They can then try and hide behind our laws saying what they are doing is not wrong. The issue they apparently forgot was that the companies who host the information can choose not to serve them.

I think they were tying to be another Westboro Baptist, but they were doing it on private property.

wikileaks link:

http://213.251.145.96/

A fine example of spinspeak.

How is it spin? Amazon very clearly outlined their reasons why they dropped WikiLeaks:

WikiLeaks does not own the content that they publish.
The content puts people in jeopardy.

Amazon didn't have to give a reason at all, in fact not responding would probably be the correct decision to make from a business standpoint, so I find it very refreshing that they did.

Wikileaks was in news today for being migrated its data to sweden and right now I read it got some cctlds like .de/.fi to operate. Europe got much better laws when it comes to freedom of speech.

Europe got much better laws when it comes to freedom of speech.
I spent some time in England earlier this year, and saw a show on TV there that was very similar to the US version of COPS. The police arrested a guy for using racist language. I had just assumed that England had similar free speech laws as the US, and was quite shocked to learn that was not the case.

Not sure what the case is for the other few dozen countries on the continent.

Not sure what the case is for the other few dozen countries on the continent.

Well First thing comes to my mind is sweden, thepiratbay is operating successfully from sweden, europe.

I spent some time in England earlier this year, and saw a show on TV there that was very similar to the US version of COPS. The police arrested a guy for using racist language. I had just assumed that England had similar free speech laws as the US, and was quite shocked to learn that was not the case.

Not sure what the case is for the other few dozen countries on the continent.

The UK is a bit stricter than most parts of Europe - however you have to incite violence to get arrested. Being racist in isolation isn't strictly a viable charge.

The content puts people in jeopardy.[Citation Needed]. Please do not post to any US government sources as they have been well and truly debunked.

The UK is a bit stricter than most parts of Europe - however you have to incite violence to get arrested. Being racist in isolation isn't strictly a viable charge.You might want to tell the Avon and Somerset constabulary that. I have been arrested 6 times in the last year for racism related charges, for calling a black friend of mine the N word.

My friend has never reported me for racism, the police were just in ear shot and heard me say the word. The first thing they did was arrest me before they even tried to get the real story.

What did they charge you with?

What did they charge you with?In the end, nothing. This was only after my lawyer informed them that I had been unlawfully arrested and imprisoned as there was no crime.

On the 6th time I got fed up and took them to court and got an injunction against them, they are not allowed to arrest me for anything related to racism, unless there has been a report against me and a Judge has approved my arrest.

;7151674'][Citation Needed]. Please do not post to any US government sources as they have been well and truly debunked.

http://aws.amazon.com/message/65348/

I wasn't claiming that it was accurate, just that it was one of the reasons that Amazon dropped them.

The UK is a bit stricter than most parts of Europe - however you have to incite violence to get arrested. Being racist in isolation isn't strictly a viable charge.

I remember it fairly well, and I'll be the first to admit that I could be wrong, but I do recall the officer threatened to arrest him twice before actually doing so, and it was quite clear that he was being arrested for the language he was using.

What particularly shocked me was that after the third time the officer basically threw the guy to the ground, put his knee into his neck, and hand-cuffed him - the guy wasn't resisting at all!

http://aws.amazon.com/message/65348/

I wasn't claiming that it was accurate, just that it was one of the reasons that Amazon dropped them.



I remember it fairly well, and I'll be the first to admit that I could be wrong, but I do recall the officer threatened to arrest him twice before actually doing so, and it was quite clear that he was being arrested for the language he was using.

What particularly shocked me was that after the third time the officer basically threw the guy to the ground, put his knee into his neck, and hand-cuffed him - the guy wasn't resisting at all!

Not suggesting they didn't get arrested, but being charged with something is quite different.

How is it spin? Amazon very clearly outlined their reasons why they dropped WikiLeaks:

WikiLeaks does not own the content that they publish.
The content puts people in jeopardy.

Amazon didn't have to give a reason at all, in fact not responding would probably be the correct decision to make from a business standpoint, so I find it very refreshing that they did.

no. amazon lied about their reasons.

the reason is, joe liebermann pressurized them to do so.

because same thing happened the day after, with everydns, and everydns didnt like about liebermann pressurizing them. however, after a while - probably when they got another call from liebermann - they retracted.

it was the same with amazon. that monkey, called them and pressurized them too. it was rumored, but amazon never stated it openly like everydns did at the start.

no. amazon lied about their reasons.

the reason is, joe liebermann pressurized them to do so.


Oh, well that's unfortunate :(

I guess I was being too optimistic.

no. amazon lied about their reasons.

the reason is, joe liebermann pressurized them to do so.

because same thing happened the day after, with everydns, and everydns didnt like about liebermann pressurizing them. however, after a while - probably when they got another call from liebermann - they retracted.

it was the same with amazon. that monkey, called them and pressurized them too. it was rumored, but amazon never stated it openly like everydns did at the start.

The same Joe Lieberman who spearheaded the witchhunt against "violent" video games in the early 90's after Nintendo used him as a puppet in an attempt to kill Sega? Please tell me that moron isn't leading this crusade too?

I am all for shutting down those who possess content that they should not have (and then leaking it), but he is the wrong man for the job. American's would be better off with Cheney doing it instead :D

@larwilliams LOL! I have to agree...Anyone but Lieberman!